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    Samsung Series 9 NP900X4D-A02US RAM UPGRADE OPTION?

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by GODSPD, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. GODSPD

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    Hello,

    I am new to the forum so I am sorry if this has been asked before but can I upgrade the existing 8GB ram to 16GB in the NP900X4D-A02US ? If yes can you please advise me of compatible ram modules and possibly where to find them?

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. John Ratsey

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    The X4C has been tested by one of our members with 2 x 8GB modules so I'm 100% sure this will work with the X4D.

    This is the RAM I would buy. The 1.35V modules give slightly lower power consumption.

    John

    PS: No need for bold text (which I have removed) - it's the equivalent of shouting.
     
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    thank you all, so based on the options is there 1 type that you can all suggest for best performance and reliability?
     
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    pardon my ignorance - but I thought the RAM was soldered on the S9's? I can upgrade the ram???

    and I was also under the impression that opening the laptop voided the warranty?
     
  8. John Ratsey

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    Soldered RAM on the 13" Series 9 but two SODIMM slots on the 15" models.

    Samsung may tell you that opening the computer will void the warranty. What they really mean is that they are not responsible for (i) warranty on parts that they didn't supply; (ii) warranty that the changed hardware configuration will work; and (iii) warranty for any damage you do. Provided you don't damage anything and restore the hardware to the as-supplied condition before requesting warranty service (if it is needed) then I do not expect such warranty service to be denied.

    John
     
  9. nadim0

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    I'm in the same situation. I want to buy a NP900X4D w/ 4gb and 128SSD then upgrade it up to 16gb and 256 for a couple hundred $ instead of paying the ridiculously high price difference Samsung expects me to cough up.

    The thing I realized is that on the specs of the NP900X4D it says that there is 1 ram slot of 8gb whereas on the specs of the NP900X4C it says there is 2 slots of 4gb. So John's suggestions shouldn't work.

    I'm a relative noob about this stuff though. Is it possible to put a single 16gb?
     
  10. nadim0

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    Oh, single pieces of 16gb sodimm don't exist...

    Edit: I just realized that there are two lines... The NP900X4D premium (8gb) has 2 slots but the regular 4gb has 1
     
  11. John Ratsey

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    Yes, there are two RAM slots with the 4GB module in one. Unless you are sure you need the full 16GB I would start by adding one 8GB module in the empty slot. The loss of performance compared to full dual channel will be small. My table here, although for Sandy Bridge and less RAM, shows the relative differences.

    John
     
  12. georgk86

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    Hey all! Just joined this forum :hi2:

    This topic is very useful for me as well.

    I have bought the NP900X4D-A02NL , yes in The Netherlands. It comes with 4gb Memory Type: DDR3 PC3-12800, DDR3 (non-ECC)

    I want to upgrade from the standard 4gb to 12 or 8gb. However, different sources on the web say different things. Some websites and shops have listed that there is 1 free slot for extra RAM. Others say there is none. Before I open up my brand new ultrabook I rather know if there is another slot which I can use.

    So im asking, does anyone know? I think John will have some knowledge about this one, you seem to know quite a bit :)

    Hope you guys can help me out before I dismantle my ultrabook. Then again, if there is only 1 slot, I might exchange it for a 8gb module.

    This because I am running windows 8 loaded, dropbox, chrome (4tabs), gmail notifier pro, and it is taking up 85-95% of my available RAM constantly.

    A little upgrade seems necessary, dont you think?


    Crucial.com system check gives:

    Memory:
    DDR3 PC3-12800
    Memory Type: DDR3 PC3-12800, DDR3 (non-ECC)
    Maximum Memory: 8GB
    Currently Installed Memory: 4GB
    Total Memory Slots: 1
    Available Memory Slots: 0

    However, multiple webpages say that there are 2 slots in total. How reliable is crucial.com?

    Greetz

    Georg
     
  13. John Ratsey

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    I am sure that the board in the X4D is the same as in the X4C (which has 2 RAM slots) and looks like this:

    66193.jpg

    To be 100% certain I would run CPU-z and look at the SPD page. There should be a pull-down list for each slot. This will also tell you whether your 4GB is 1 x 4GB or 2 x 2GB. I think it is likely to be the former (cheaper) but there is a performance hit due to being single channel memory access.

    Regarding the high memory usage, I would suggest that you check if IntelliMemory is installed. It is some sort of caching program and uses most of the spare RAM.

    John
     
  14. georgk86

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    Thanks John!

    That program is very neat! (CPU-z). Will check it out when i'm back on my np900x4d.

    About the high memory usage, I disabled some startup programs and it is now running stable at 35-40%. Kinda weird that it dropped so low if you ask me. Maybe it could have been, cus it was brand new and still updating, upgrading en wanting to install stuff?

    About the IntelliMemory, you suggest to uninstall it?

    Greetz,

    Georg

    ps. If my laptop is now for real running at 35-40%, Is it even necessary to plugin another 8? Also, some websites say it handles max 8gb. Do they mean per slot, or total? 16gb would be the total right? I mean, this motherboard should be able to handle more than 8.. Correct me if I'm wrong :)

    Thanks again
     
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    1. Most users uninstall IntelliMemory when they discover what it is doing. I'm not convinced that it brings a lot of benefit when the system has an SSD. Watch your RAM usage and see if it creeps up again.

    2. The benefit of adding more RAM (assuming that by hypothesis that there are two slots is correct) is that you will get a performance improvement. See my table here for some measurements I made on my T420s. The relative differences for Ivy Bridge memory performance will be similar.

    John
     
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    The IntelliMemory uses 0.3% stead6 at the moment. Will check up on it once in a while!
     
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    Do you know what this is all about?

    Task Manager.jpg
     
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    You need to track down what is using that process. Process Explorer may help.

    John
     
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    Hi, thx for a great forum.

    I just thought to inform you that I have actuallly installed CMSO16GX3M2A1333C9 RAM (2x8GB) in my NP900X4D-A2SE which indeed holds 2 RAM slots. It works without any problems as I can see. The system reeds 16 GB at the Win8 OS 64 bit OS thats factory installed.

    I am no wiz that's for sure but it took me 3 min; unscrewing 10 screws, replace RAM, putting things back and reboot. System works, and has been for 5 days now. No problems (but no guarantees :) )

    Geir
     
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    1.What Ram does the 15" series 9 use?

    2.When you open the back, is there anything else that you need to remove? Any cables?

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    PC3-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3 SODIMMs. Either 1.5V or1.35V (the latter will slightly reduce power consumption).

    There's an internal photo in my X4C review (but note I had removed a thermal pad on the RAM for the photo). There are no cables to disconnect. The only challenge is unclipping the seam along the back between the hinges but that's a matter of wiggling the base after removing the screws.

    John
     
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    Would these be ok? CORSAIR Vengeance Model CMSX8GX3M2A1600C9 Laptop Memory - Newegg.com

    Basically, there are screws to be removed, but none of them are under pads?
    And does this seam pose any possibility of breaking stuff?
     
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    Tried removing the screws, but the backplate seems like stuck to back of the display hinge.

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  24. John Ratsey

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    That RAM is OK or an alternative is the 1.35V Crucial which is very slightly slower but uses a little (about 0.2W per module by my estimates) less power. All 10 screws are accessible.

    With the screws removed lift the front edge of the base by an inch or so (~3cm) which helps the hooks in the joint to disengage and start to gently prise the seam apart at one end 9the rest will follow).

    John
     
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    Are the attach to another from the side or from the top (vertical). Basically i dont want to pull too hard and break the hooks.

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  26. John Ratsey

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    There are plastic hooks that protrude from the edge of the plastic at the back part of the base that clip into slots on the plastic cover between the hinges. I don't have a photograph of the arrangement but you need to separate the joint perpendicular to the base.

    John
     
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    Hey guys,

    I've read almost every post on this site about RAM upgrade options on series 9 x4d but I haven't find this, maybe not discussed yet..

    So... I recently purchased x4d, it comes with 4GB onboard, i5, 128GB etc. I would like to upgrade RAM in it, so I was thinking about purchasing one of already mentioned 8GB ram pieces and add it to my 'old' 4GB..

    So in the end I would have 12GB. Is this even possible, will it work?

    Thanks
    Adam
     
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    No. The 13.3" Series 9 series RAM cannot be upgraded.
     
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    I dont know about 13'' but the 15'' I purchased has 2 slots > there is 4GB slice and the other slot is empty... so if i put 8GB DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 any brand, is it going to work? vice-versa is it going to read 12GB and work properly?
     
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    Yes. it will work. The 15" S9 has been tested with 8GB modules.

    Note, however, before you go to 12GB that if you want to use hibernation (and the Intel Rapid Start Technology provides very quick hibernation and resume) that the hibernation file will also need 12GB which is a big slice out of a 128GB SSD. 8GB may be a better compromise unless you really need more RAM than that.

    John
     
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    You mean that if I upgrade I need to cut out 12GB of HD or is it like that with every RAM?

    EDIT: Aaah now I understand, but is it possible to cut it to 10 or less somehow?
     
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    If you look at your current partitions in Disk Management you should find you have a 4GB (it's actually slightly more) hibernation partition. 8GB RAM needs 8GB hibernation partition, etc. Effectively, IRST keeps an uncompressed copy of the RAM in the hibernation partition which is kept updated in the background.

    John
     
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    Thank you for your reply!

    Does this refer only to awake from hibernation or it also applies to the rapid awake from sleep. I mean, if I wont use the hibernation but only sleep I won't need those 4 or 12 or whatmany GBs. Right?

    And about, there is Samsung recovery partition is it something like factory recovery? Can i delete it and use the Recovery disc instead?
     
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    My bad. I was zoned out when I wrote you could not.

    Yes, the 15" can be upgraded to 16GB of RAM.
     
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    IRST uses the same arrangement to provide both sleep and hibernation. A sleeping computer will change to hibernation after a pre-set time delay. I find resume in less than 10 seconds to be very useful.

    However, if your machine is Windows 8 then it may not use IRST but Windows 8's sleep / hibernation so the situation in respect of disk usage may be different.

    You can also make further backup discs using Samsung Recovery Solution. It is difficult to recreate the Recovery partition (search for "USB Admin tool") but you don't need it provided you have the backups.

    There was no mistake. Your previous post specifically mentioned the 13".

    John
     
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    I just updated my NP900X4D to 16 GB of RAM.
    Original Specs:
    i7 1.90 GHz/2.40 GHz
    8 GB RAM
    256 SSHD

    Removed 2 4GB and installed 2 8GB DDR3 1600 CL11.

    Computer recognized 16 GB, and now responds much crisper. So far so good. Thank for this thread for informing me this was possible.
     
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    Does anyone know how will act the IRST partition if I upgrade RAM? Will it automatically expand the partition size? Eventually what steps do I have to take

    Thanks
     
  38. aliennumberseven

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    My series 9 don’t have such a partition like 8 GB or so. It only has 5 partitions as:

    Recovery Partition = 500 MB
    EFI System Partition = 300 MB
    Primary Partition = 209.38 GB
    Samsung_Rec2 Partition = 25.19 GB
    OEM Partition = 1.00 GB

    It seems that different models of series 9 (I have NP900X4C-A03CA) comes with different partitions.
     
  39. John Ratsey

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    My knowledge about IRST is in this thread. I would advise getting IRST V2 which seems to be better behaved.

    Might you have Windows 8? That uses a different hibernation system.

    John
     
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    Yes John, my NP900X4C-A03CA came with windows 8, 64-bit home edition. It has 8 GB of RAM. So I suppose that it will be OK for me to upgrade it to 16 GB.
     
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    We know 16GB will work and if you don't have IRST then you won't upset it. But are you running things such as multiple virtual machines that need all that RAM?

    John
     
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    There's Windows 8, Windows 8 Professional, and Windows 8 Enterprise. There is no edition called home edition. They consolidated some of the SKUs before release, thankfully.

    According to Memory Limits for Windows Releases (Windows) you are limited to 128GB of RAM with the base SKU so I think you are good. :D
     
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    I'm trying to remove the back cover of my NP900X4D but I can't seem to take it off.

    I removed the 10 screw but the back part of it, neat the hinges is like stuck. I'm trying to wiggle it off but it doesn't seem to want to go anywhere.

    There are 2 clips on the corners that I got off, but it's still "stuck" Any help?


    2013-09-08_19-10-12_268.jpg 2013-09-08_19-10-59_34.jpg 2013-09-08_19-11-42_263.jpg

    EDIT: I just lifted the lid more and it undid the little clips in the back. It's not with pleasant sounds that the lid comes off hahaha, the clips undoing themselves just sound like plastic breaking off. I put my 8gb RAM stick in there and now it's working fine, running 12gb of ram.

    12gb of ram samsung series 9 np900x4d.png