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    Samsung R580 JSB-1US Overheating

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by irritablevegetable, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. irritablevegetable

    irritablevegetable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey all,

    I seem to have a problem with overheating with this notebook. I believe it is due to the fact of turbo boost. During the first few months of my possession of this notebook, there were no instances of overheating and then during December, this problem occurred. I am a gamer and also render a lot of videos, so when I rendered videos, the laptop would shut off. I knew this problem was due to overheating and read on a forum that turning off turbo boost would solve the trick. I went into the BIOS and turned off Intel Speedstep, this caused my computer to have a maximum of 1.2 ghz. I have been having this setup for quite some time until a few weeks ago when I realized that I was not fully utilizing my processor speed. So, I experimented and looked at a few forums and I found out that if I go into the power options and put my processor maximum to 99% turbo boost is not enabled. This means that instead of 1.2ghz, I would get 2.27 ghz - I have an i5-430m. The temperature readings I got off core temp were a maximum of 85 degrees celsius, however with turbo boost enabled it reached around 100 degrees a matter of minutes when doing a processor test in Windows Experience Index. I heard that 90 degrees and above is detrimental to the laptop's hardware and 100 degrees - thats just boiling water! So, my question is how can I prevent further overheating yet still turn on turbo boost? I want to use the most out of my processor and still get the best bang for the buck.
     
  2. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    How are you monitoring your temperature, most here is hwmonitor

    I suppose you have checked the fan vents for dirt/dust and also check the fan is running correctly, also check you cpu usage it should only be around 5% at idle, not running 100% all the time, if so you need to find out what is causing it, I have the R590 and mine runs cool and quiet all the time and i have not seen the temp go above 75c for cpu or gpu even under high stress application.

    CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting
     
  3. irritablevegetable

    irritablevegetable Notebook Enthusiast

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    I see, I use coretemp, ill try hwmonitor and keep u updated. My cpu is 5% at idle and is around 40-50 degrees. This only happens when I do cpu-intensive things like gaming or rendering. I haven't cleaned out the vents since I really don't know how to go about doing that.

    EDIT: The HWMonitor readings were the same.
     
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    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    My i5-450m 2.4ghz idles at an average of 26c , you need to clean your cooling vents , I think the notebook pulls in air from the vent under where the power socket is and blows it out of the back of the notebook , so you need to get a can of air-duster and give your vents a clean.
     
  5. irritablevegetable

    irritablevegetable Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, I'll give that a go, I will be a bit busy for a while, but hopefully I can go out and get one next weekend
     
  6. lvsteven

    lvsteven Newbie

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    Hi,

    Just the other night while authoring an HD movie with powerdirector 9 my samsung r580 shut itself down...

    I didnt know whether or not it was a windows bluescreen so i restarted and retried it and BOOM it did it again, and again while authoring the video.

    There is no real history in the BIOS to show what is happening health wise and also windows 7 has no logs to indicate it.

    After googling I found that the confortable range for the core i5 arrondale is up to 100C, but after running CPUID harware monitor i saw that my temps were approaching 90-100C for each core, and idling around 65C which is insane.

    I turned the computer off entirely and used an ear bulb that I have for cleaning out my digital camera and out came a noticable ammount of dust.

    Today I bought a $5 can of compressed air, turned the computer off, removed the battery and the RAM cover and blew into the computer.

    The main cooling fan is actually right below the power cable spot on the left side. I blew the air directly into the slots and heard the fan wizzing as the air hit it. More dust from the back but I kept going, then went from the back vent and sprayed the other direction making sure again to hit each slot individually and hear the fan spinning.

    I then sprayed all through the RAM compartment and also in and around any other vents on the bottom of the case.

    When i opened the notebook back up there was visible DUST on the monitor meaning it was coming up through the keyboard also.

    Started the system back up and so far the hottest I was able to get it to run was 71C, 30 degrees cooler than before.

    I am currently transcoding a video to FULL HD (meaning that the video is being upconvered as it is only 720p quality) and even then it is at 54C... with the windows desktop gadget reporting 97-99% load on the cpu.

    So I hope sincerely that your problem is only dust because that is exactly what mine was.

    Be grateful that you like me didnt find hundreds of posts complaining about overheating. that means these notebooks dont have that problem like some which is what i was really afraid of!
     
  7. irritablevegetable

    irritablevegetable Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks a lot. Great to know that someone who has the same laptop as me found a way to solve this problem. Ill get that can of compressed air and give this R580 a clean up. I'm sure the dust is the culprit now.
     
  8. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    I usually use a laptop cooler when I'm going to do extensive useage. Haven't had dust problems yet.
     
  9. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Most laptops have some of their intakes on the bottom which means that if you use them on soft surfaces (eg on beds) then they suck in a lot of fluff which gets as far as the grill on the heatsink and collects there.

    John
     
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    irritablevegetable Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will be getting my gas duster tomorrow or the day after, so I have one question before I proceed. Is it necessary to take the laptop open to have a thorough cleaning? And if so, how would I be able to get the information to take off the casing? The manual provides no instructions on how I can go about doing this. Anyone here taken apart a Samsung R580?
     
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    While it is preferable to do a partial disassembly, this may not be easy. I usually remove any covers from the base and then blow the air duster through the heatsink from outside. This should dislodge any material trapped against the heatsink and, if you are lucky, it will come out through the open covers. On some notebooks removal of the keyboard will provide access to the fan.

    John
     
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    Thank all of you, got my temps down to 88 max with rendering and playing a game with fraps on with turbo boost. I used to get 100+ instantly.

    Edit: I seem to be having some problems with turbo boost on. I've been playing minecraft with fraps on recording and I'm getting visible drops in framerate. The processor is not overheating and I think the chip is not downclocking automatically. I was getting better fps before with 2.27 ghz. Now, with 2.53 ghz, there seems to be more drops in framerate in games, however rendering times have improved. What can the problem be?