Samsung PC slow boot after replacement of HDD by SSD - take 2

Hey guys,

Im currently moving an Windows 10 Home (upgraded from Win 8) from the original Hitachi HDD to a Crucial SSD using the acronis true image hd 2015 supplied by Crucial.
The notebook is the NP535U3C.

Im basically done with it and it worked quite straight forward.
I made sure to completely shutdown Win 10 (cmd.exe "shutdown /s /t 0") before starting the cloning process.
But I have the exact same problem now as described in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/samsung-pc-slow-boot-after-replacement-of-hdd-by-ssd.759854/

As this thread is closed I have no other way than to ask the question again to get any news on this topic.

SRS doesnt seem to work anymore as once start "recovery" in windows 10 it says "no recovery partition found".

This 90 seconds delay is definetly after/during the BIOS/UEFI boot and before windows gets loaded because when I start with the "windows boot options enabled" (where you can choose, safe boot, low resolution, etc.) it takes also 90 seconds until this screen shows.

In the BIOS i have secure-boot disabled and boot mode "UEFI only". The boot order is
1. Windows Boot Manager
2. Crucial SSD

Everytime I change curcial to 1. it windows boot manager is automatically number 1 again after one start.
If I choose F12 and directly select the SSD or directly select the SSD to boot from on the bottom in the BIOS screen where you can save your settings it doesnt change anything. this 90 second delay is there.
With F4 nothing happens...
I disabled Fast-boot in the BIOS and in Win10 cause when enabled it doesnt boot at all.

If I put in the old HDD everything works fine.

I made some comparison with diskpart between the HDD and SSD and found the partitions be not exactly the same order.
I kinda dont want to do another clone as the HDD has already SMART errors and it takes quite long.

Is there no way to re-write the UEFI and/or windows boot manager to get rid of this delay?

thanks guys
Soko

 

It sounds like a resource conflict. If so get to the uefi bios and tell it to load system defaults with the SSD installed. This should cause the bios to set at power up the resources to non conflicted. hopefully this does the trick.

 

OK, thx. I've tried that

I did load the standard settings => no change
I did open up the notebook unplugged the battery & the CMOS battery => date in BIOS got reset => no change in behaviour

I left the boot-option to "secure boot" after the reset. Which booted but again with the 90 second delay.
BDW: You can set your watch using the delay. Its exactly 90 second each time.

Maybe its this windows boot manager which is used as boot device.

EDIT:
I've tried to write everything new as stated in the accepted answer of this question:
http://superuser.com/questions/460762/how-can-i-repair-the-windows-8-efi-bootloader

Take an educated guess: => no change

 

It sounds like a hardware fail to initialize problem. Usually this is a resource conflict issue but could also a hardware issue such as an iSSD smart cache. Lastly it could be an alignment issue, but most likely not. best way to test this is a totally non-formatted and partitioned SSD and on power up see if the delay is still there before coming back as "no bootable device" etc..

another thing to look at is if the SSD is not ready fast enough it may not see the device as bootable and may be circling around device looking for a boot device. insert a known bootable USB device and see if the delay is there. That could be a first hint of this, not a definitive answer.

 

OK.
A flash drive boots without delay. The old/original HDD boots without delay. So it has to be something with (or on) the SSD that causes the delay.
I had the "no bootable device" msg a couple of times already but I'm not sure if it was with no HDD/SSD in there...
I'll give it a try and report back.
thx

 

Try disabling any fast start / fast boot option if they exist (BIOS / Samsung Settings) to see if it speeds up the process.

Some cloning software has the option to clone the drive signature. This may be relevant if something stored somewhere (boot manager / UEFI) is looking for a drive with a different signature.

John

 

# all fast start is disabled (BIOS and Win 10) => no change
# dont know what arconis has cloned in detail. but i rewrote the boot manager and EFI partition (at least the BCD file) using the link below => no change

http://superuser.com/questions/460762/how-can-i-repair-the-windows-8-efi-bootloader

 

Heya,

It seems we have to leave this mysterium open for the future.
The notebook I've done this on belongs to my brother in law and he needs it back and frankly doesnt care it the boot take 90 seconds longer.

Its unfortunate as I really wanted to get behind this issue...

Maybe it annoys him more than he thinks and comes back to me on this topic.

But as of now I wont do any more investigation on this...

thanks for your input again!
Soko

 

I have no other suggestions about the cause but wonder whether sleep or hibernation might be word-arounds.

John