Well, I was all ready to order a Q35, until I read about the Q45 this morning.
As far as I can see the substantive (as opposed to cometic) differences between the two machines are:
- The inclusion of a Geforce Go 8400 (Q45)
- A webcam integrated into the lid (Q45)
Now I feel like waiting for the Q45. Yes, I know something better will always come along if you wait. But, the GF Go 8400 makes the difference between not playing any games at all, and being able to play modern games.
What does everyone else think?
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John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
How much do you value the battery run time? The current Q35 series has suffered a drop-off in the running time as the hardware got upgraded. Mine can just about manage 5 hours with a dim backlight and light load, but I know someone with an older Q35 who reckons they can manage 6 hours. Samsung's specs variously say 6.5 to 7 hours.
Until I read to the contrary, I will be worried that the Intel Santa Rosa platform uses more power than the present chipset (which definitely uses more than its predecessor). We can hope that once the launch date arrives there will be some sites with back-to-back comparisons which include power drain and battery life. Once that info is out you can be making your decision. It is possible that remaining Q35s will slide down the price chain when the Q45s arrive.
The nVidia GPU will also be another extra power drain unless someone has finally figured out how to switch off most of the hardware when battery life is the priority. There must a a reason for sony putting a switch in the SZ series for users to select between Intel graphics (for battery life) and nVidia (for more performance).
As a non-gamer, I would prefer the Q35/Q45 to be optimised for more battery life and sacrifice some performance.
I've never felt the urge to have a webcam. It is also another source of battery drain unless it has a hardware switch. The Q45 does include a built-in microphone (which the Q35 lacks) but it would have been anomalous to have a webcam without a microphone.
Perhaps the most interesting thing not changed on the Q45 (assuming the info on the Samsung website is correct) is that it has not migrated to the Express card slot now that products that fit in those slots are starting to appear.
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I'm not especially bothered about the webcam either. The Geforce 8400 is the important thing for me.
The Wikipedia article about Santa Rosa ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino) suggests that they've made lots of power-saving improvements....
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John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
It will be good if Intel have sorted out the power management with the new chipset. Otherwise I will have not reason to think of upgrading my present hardware.
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aww john i liked your old avatar better hahah
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John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
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John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
Reverting to the original topic of this thread, I was just looking at this thread in the news. Andrew's comment is pertinent. It probably reflects what he found out at CeBIT. The power figures he mentions must be for a system under full load.
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Hmmm, the Q45 sure looks pretty and will be a tempting upgrade in the future however I don't think it will be released at a price point as affordable as the Q35 most likely due to the Nvidia 8400 and Santa Rose chips. I do worry about the battery life on the Q45 though. I can just about manage 4 hours with a dim backlight runnng Vista (sans Aero) and I feel the OS does add a substanial amount to the power drain. I plan to install Unbuntu on my E drive (I had originally created this for backups but I plan to purchase an external HDD) soon and see if I get longer battery life than I do on Vista. I feel the dedicated GPU will only strain the battery further.
I am half kicking myself for not waiting for the Q45 (just because I like to have the latest and greatest!) however I know that I wouldn't ever have needed such a powerful GPU for the games I do play and it is very likely I wouldn't be able to afford it (a price hike of even £100 over the £750 I paid for my Q35) would put it outside the price range I had to spend on a laptop. -
John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
John -
I am estimating a £999 price tag for a Q35 with an Nvidia 8400 grpahics card. I would imagine that the low-end Q35 will hang around for a bit.
I had time to consider the folly of my purchase at work today but I came to the conclusion that I did the right thing. The GMA 950 will stop me getting too absorbed in gaming while I'm supposed to be at Uni studying! Plus, the total cost of everything was already rather steep. I wouldn't have been able to afford even £50 to £100 over budget. -
John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
Is the mobile version of the 8400 ready to launch? We might first see the Q45 with the Intel graphics, with the 8400 version following. In that case £999 is plausible.
The other unknowns are what speed CPU and whether Samsung will move to 1GB on-board RAM. I would personally prefer more attention to give the Q45 more battery life and silent operation under low load. These are the concerns which crop up frequently during buying decisions.
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John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator
I see that the Dixons website is listing the DSG version of the Q35 (T5200 + 1GB + 100GB) at £699.99 and Google is showing a discount code of "10APR07" which takes off a further £10.
Currently the same Q35 is still £749.99 on the PC World site.
John
PS: Two days later (30 April) and that Dixons price for the Q35 is now up to £849.99. That deal didn't last very long!
Further update: 3rd May and the Disons price is now down to £729.99, so currently £20 cheaper than PC World.
Q35 vs Q45?
Discussion in 'Samsung' started by shandy1948, Apr 19, 2007.