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    Next Samsung Series 9 Release

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by eskimoerin, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. jornove

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    The 400nit was one of the main selling point on the HD+ version, 300nits may be just fine 80% of the time, But don't call 300nit "Superbright" like samsung does, it's well belove other ultrabooks like macbook air and pro, and many other...

    And when you need that extra nits, you don't have it. I think most former 9-series owners and mac owners will be very disappointed when they see the screen in a well lit store or when sunlight shine in your livingroom.
     
  2. Cableman

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    I am one of the people waiting for the new version of the 13" model. I am just hoping for 2 things (like most people here) - 8GB RAM and no touchscreen. The Series 9 is listed everywhere as an ultrabook, but hopefully Samsung will realize that they will lose some clients if there's no option for a matte non-touch screen. Saying that it's an ultrabook doesn't really get them that many buyers, while I think there are still plenty of people that do not need touch (and it makes everything worse in terms of weight and gloss). I simply do not see a scenario where I would rely on touch since this will be my work computer. If there's any news on the screen options and any inside info (looking at you Aiga) let us know.
     
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    Hmm... in the specs list in your link it say's 400nits for the full HD screen, confused ;-)
     
  5. Thors.Hammer

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    Samsung marketing has always been inconsistent on the samsung.com USA website. They routinely botch the information on product launches. I'm not sure it really matters to me. The only time it would make a difference is outside on the patio in the summer.
     
  6. Crazysah

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    Any idea when the 15" version will be coming out?
     
  7. cantona2k

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    Hi all,

    so far all specifications i have seen point a 4GB configurations only.
    Do you guys know whether there will be 8GB RAM set ups as well?

    4GB would be a dealbraker for me - as is on the Asus UX31A.

    Thanks !!
     
  8. wii

    wii IPS Rules

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    My guess is Q2-Q3 based on samsung's memory roadmap for the ddp ram.
     
  10. Aiga

    Aiga Notebook Evangelist

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    No PLS\FullHD on 15" right now, as it was stated above. No "retina" panel in the nearest months as well.
     
  11. Thors.Hammer

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    To me, it is a mistake to put a 1920x1080 native resolution screen on the 13.3" Series 9. That resolution makes more sense on the 15" model, but only if the quality (brightness, contrast, blacks, etc.) is very good.

    I can't imagine many people will actually run 1920x1080 at 100% DPI on the 13.3". Therefore, many people will bump the DPI to 125 or 150%, or change the resolution to 1600x900. Then what's the point?

    The reviews should be interesting. Assuming of course the reviewers are actually objective about the matter.

    One other thing, is the new wave of coming Series 9 machines using different battery technology?
     
  12. Aiga

    Aiga Notebook Evangelist

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    Absoultely agree. What is even more unexplainable (for us, users, at least) is why they did not put PLS into 15" from the very beginning. Hope they will change that. They should. Yet 13" is very much reminiscent of Sony Z. Samsung follows the same path and ... wins the niche as the legendary Z is already discontinued in the US, Japan, and Asia.

    P.S. I would probably try to grab some info about new batteries and Haswell a bit later.
     
  13. isosunrise

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    I am fine with the resolution, but waiting for a bump in RAM for the 13" before I upgrade my SS9.
     
  14. Ojee99

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    For using Windows on it, agree. But if you want to watch a HD movie on it, this might be a benefit, right?
     
  15. go45cvi

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    I've watched several 1080p mkv's on my X3B. I see no benefit in added pixels, and would rather not deal with scaling the rest of the time. When you're on a plane, others things tend to distract you more than pixel count. If I "need" 1080p I'll plug into a TV. Why a better screen for the 15" is not in the works is beyond me though.
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, but is there any new battery technology available? I thought that the industry is stuck in the past when it comes to that...I would love to have a better battery, that's for sure.
     
  17. Thors.Hammer

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    Nevermind. I thought the Lithium Polymer battery listed in the coming NP900X3E was new for the series, but I see after checking they have been there all along.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I'm new to these forums and stumbled across these forums over the past couple of weeks in search of information about the NP900X3E (A03UK). I imagine as many of you here, I'm eager to get my hands on one of these as soon as possible and have been trying to contact Samsung and retailers left right and centre, without much luck.

    Samsung's website actually shows that Amazon UK has it in stock, though Amazon says they do not and that there's a 1 month wait for a replenishing of their stock. John Lewis have no idea when they may be coming in, though they too have it listed on their website. I've tried to ring Samsung's sales lines but it's the usual story of being referred to call another number and goes in circles. Lastly I tried the Samsung flagship store in Westfield London - who earlier today said they expect the new range of laptops in March, but stated that Samsung Direct usually have stock before their store does -- which doesn't make much sense, and also it's not actually listed in Samsung Direct's online shop yet.

    Have any of you been able to find out anything more on availability of the new models?
     
  19. Aiga

    Aiga Notebook Evangelist

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    When I talked to Samsung senior official he said "Q2". That means the very end of March - April in Eastern Europe. Yet I believe the situation will differ, depending on the region. I suggest you making a preorder at amazon, and I'd believe you would get in March - very likely.
     
  20. alpha1-786

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    hmmm fair enough, it's a bit of a shame to have to wait so long.. thanks for the prompt response though! :)
     
  21. x2010

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    Aiga,

    Could you please get us more info on series 9 15 inch for USA region I am interested in getting one. Just 13 inch is way too small for me.

    I would appriciate it.
     
  22. Thors.Hammer

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    Please tell the senior official they are making a mistake not giving the PLS love to the 15" Series 9.
     
  23. x2010

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    Totally agree with you. I been waiting for 2 months now for it.
    Bad thing that HP Spectre XT 15 inch have bad battery life otherwise I would get that one long time ago.
     
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    +1. Right now I'm holding out for 15" Series 9 PLS screen. That will be a perfect laptop for me.
     
  26. Aiga

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    They are guided by their own corporative survey polls and know better then we what WE need :). As I remember they try to differentiate these technologies for some reasons, one them is more extensive battery drain on possible 15" PLS (though I may mistake in recalling that), and the other one is pricing. Last year I had a long discussion about missing WWAN on Samsung premium ultralights. To no avail. Their surveys show that it is out of top priorities for consumers and the crucial argument was also that some additional modules will affect the price tag. It took many efforts to convince them that is necessary to make a backlit for cyrillic letters on the keyboard. As someone probably remember, the very first Series 9 about two years ago missed it, only Latin letters had lights. They got it finally last year.
     
  27. go45cvi

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    Any chance they'll improve the wireless?
     
  28. Thors.Hammer

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    Their corporate poll saying customers want 1080p screens in a 13.3" form factor is wrong.

    Oh wait, they probably don't have poll data to support that. It was likely a knee jerk reaction to ASUS having those screens.

    Sigh...
     
  29. isosunrise

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    I prefer a high resolution 1080P or even higher on the 13.3, but I have perfect vision. I like arranging windows to split them as dual of quad so I can work more efficiently with birds eyes view. You can always scale down. I'm waiting for Haswell or 6-8GB memory before I make the jump as I already have a second generation SS9, really just want more memory.
     
  30. Crazysah

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    So? Any idea on the 15" release date?
     
  31. Thors.Hammer

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    I like arranging windows like that, too. But on my Dell 27" U2711 at 2560x1440, not on a tiny 13.3" screen.

    1920x1080 is annoying enough for a lot of people on a 15.6" screen. The complaints about scaling will ratchet up on the folks that buy a 13.3" screen. It would be different if the operating systems handled the pixels and resolutions differently.

    Like John and other folks here, I would be really happy with a 1600x900 PLS screen on the 15" Series 9.

    It really doesn't matter much for me now anyway. I have been trying to get Samsung to take ownership for a warranty issue since last November with my machine and they refuse. I'll detail the issue soon in a separate post because other customers are going to get burned, too. I am going to try to escalate into Samsung one more time. After that, I am either going to take legal action with the states Attorney General via a complaint, or just dump the machine and never buy Samsung again. I have long felt a concern about Samsung support even before buying several machines. They are only proving that sixth sense was right.
     
  32. Warlock0815

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    Yes, that would make me happy too. For me FHD is to much for a 15". Then the 15" Series 9 would be perfect for me. Now with the TN screen it is a compromise. But i think they wait with the PLS screen until the competition will bring such a thin 15" laptop on the market to have a gap to them.
     
  33. andex

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    It is great to see 512GB ssd on 13 inch series 9. Where is 15 inch series 9. I really want NP900X4E. I just cancelled the chance to get NP900X4D after waiting a long time to enjoy PLS screen on 15 in screen!
     
  34. thedamo

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    Breaking-News-animated.gif

    Just to let you guys know, both of the new 2013 'X3E' models are - as of 20 minutes ago - In Stock, at Sainsburys UK:

    NP900X3E-A01UK: Samsung NP900X3E-A01UK Intel Core i7 4GB/256GB SSD 13.3" Full HD 1080p Mineral Black Notebook - All Samsung computing - Samsung store - Computing - Technology - Sainsbury’s

    NP900X3E-A03UK: Samsung NP900X3E-A03UK Intel Core i7 5GB/512GB SSD 13.3" Mineral Black Notebook - All Samsung computing - Samsung store - Computing - Technology - Sainsbury’s

    In addition, Amazon UK have updated inventory status for both models to be "Temporarily out of stock" - as opposed to the ambiguous ' 1 - 3 months', as was previously the status.

    Full scale release of this model is now rolling, hope it helps some of you out :thumbsup:

    Ta.
     
  35. John Ratsey

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    Maybe a shipment is expected to arrive imminently.

    John Lewis still says "out of stock".

    One can never be sure of the status with Amazon who might have received some which all went on the back orders, but I agree that the change from the 1 - 3 months means they have progressed from uncertainty to expectation of stock.

    John
     
  36. andex

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    Any news about NP900X4E? I think more people are interested in 15 inches than a 4 GB only 13 inches.
     
  37. John Ratsey

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    According to Google, the only references to the NP900X4E are on this forum.

    John
     
  38. andex

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    :biggrin: Sad but true.
     
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    Good points raised. I guess, no PLS for 13.3 series 9 is really a deal breaker for those who may want the small screen. I just googled PLS NP900X3E and there is no single hit! This make me wonder, will there be any chance for new 15 inch Series 9 to have PLS? I don't think so. :no:
     
  41. John Ratsey

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    Read the reports such as this from 2013 CES. The 13.3" Series 9 (the only one on display) is reported to be PLS. The 15" S9 only got a very brief mention somewhere in reports. FHD panel, IIRC, but no indication of display type.

    John
     
  42. andex

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    Thank you John!
     
  43. black83

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    I bet it will have the same display as the Series 7 Chronos 15.
    One of the best screens i have ever seen, looking on it right now :)

    You can sit in front of it and move your head as you like, you won't see colors changing.
    From 180°C it only gets a little bit darker but not much
     
  44. John Ratsey

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    It may possibly use the same display fabrication technology but I hope it won't be the same size: There is a significant size difference between the 15.0" and 15.6" displays and one of the strengths of the current 15" Series 9 is that it is little larger than most 14" notebooks.

    John
     
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    The folks that publish to the USA Samsung website continually make errors in the specs. I would not draw any conclusions from the 300 nits. Wait until to decent reviews come in from credible reviewers and new owners. Then you'll know.
     
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    Aiga, have you heard anything about the X3E's potential launch date or (hopefully) about the Haswell-equipped S9? Will it be touchscreen?
     
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    There are a couple of problems with this offering. The Samsung Series 9 isn't selling well on eBay. Therefore the investment needs to be a long term purchase and the price doesn't help matters.

    Second, 4GB of RAM is still a mental barrier for a lot of people. That also doesn't help resale value.

    It will be interesting to see what a 4GB, 256GB i5 2013 SS9 fetches new because the main competition is the MacBook Air. I can buy a new MBA with 8GB, 256GB i5 for $1400 and reselling it isn't an issue.

    And I can buy a new ThinkPad T430s for a lot less and it is much easier to sell compared to the SS9.

    Anyone want a NP900X3D-A02US? :D
     
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    I am not sure how patents work regarding this kind of thing, but I think the S9 would be a compelling machine if they tried out a 360 degree hinge like the yoga. This of course if they could get the touch screen in without too much added weight or loss of battery power. Without that hinge The S9 really doesn't need the touchscreen, as others have mentioned as well. Thoughts?
     
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