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    Can anyone upload me your Windows 8 Samsung Recovery Disc?

    Discussion in 'Samsung' started by skor78, Apr 21, 2013.

  1. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    Can anyone upload me your Windows 8 Samsung Recovery Disc? If I'm not mistaken win8 recovery disk is oem just like win7, this way i could upgrade my np550 to it's original OS intstead of using win7 from my rc530.

    TIA.
     
  2. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    You need to obtain this from Samsung. Discussing this here is against the TOS..............
     
  3. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    Didn't knew that. Thanks. Please close or delete thread. Is not my intention to go against the rules.
     
  4. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    TANWare is right, we cannot have discussion of how to obtain software illegally on the forum. That said, I don't think skor was necessarily trying to get a pirated Win8: Since there are legal downloads of Win7 (bring your own product key) it is not unreasonable to expect the same for Win8 as well.

    As it currently reads, I don't think the thread needs to be deleted. TANWare's response helps point out the forum rules. Specifically the following:

     
  5. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I don't think I broke any of these rules. As you know my laptop was bought with the drive wiped clean, and without manuals, discs, etc.. This is why I requested an iso here. I don't even know if it will work, but I think is worth a try.

    Cheers.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
     
  6. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    You're fine skor, I don't think you intended to break any rules or commit any crimes.

    I remembered that member SGMD1 posted a Win8 install guide some time ago, which included a TechNet-link to download Win8 ISOs from Microsoft. I haven't tried it myself, maybe it requires a TechNet subscription. Check it out.

    In any case, I say we leave this thread open for discussion of Win8 ISO downloads -- LEGAL ones ONLY!
     
  7. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Those .ISO's are only available if you have a MSDN or TechNet paid subscription.

    However, if the machine in question in this thread originally shipped with Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro, then all you need to re-install is an official install DVD or USB Stick. You could certainly borrow that from a friend if you know someone that has the media. The most important part, the license key, is already embedded in the system thus making it legal.
     
  8. go45cvi

    go45cvi Notebook Deity

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    However, there are separate Pro and Basic distributions, so you will need the correct disc. At least I was unable to reinstall basic from a pro iso. It is ridiculous that they can ship a machine without providing the original software for reinstallation in some form. Frankly, it reeks of collusion between MS and the OEMs to ensure that consumers have minimal upgrade options. W7 is freely obtainable from the digital river links, but you need a technet subscription to download W8 legally.
     
  9. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know from experience from other OEMs that your statement isn't completely true. Samsung's process sucks. As does their support website and support in general for their notebooks.

    Other OEMs ship disks with the system, or can be requested thus allowing a user to re-install if they have a catastrophic HDD or SSD loss, or simply want to increase the capacity of the storage device.

    So it isn't collusion. A solution CAN be provided. Samsung just provides a crappy solution.
     
  10. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    I agree, Samsung really should provide an OS disc with their laptops. They USED to do that: my Sandy Bridge came with a bloat-free Win 7 Home premium disc; but clearly they decided to save that at some point. Imagine how many support calls and returns they are now getting just to save a few pennies on each unit.

    I seem to recall members posting that Samsung Support had offered an OS disc for a fee. Depending on the size of that fee, this may the be way forward.

    And thanks for clarifying about the TechNet subscription, Thor!
     
  11. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    Wait, what?? Windows 8 Samsung laptops don't even come with a Recovery Disc? Omg, that's so disappointing.. All my Win7 Samsungs came with Recovery Disc, I wasn't expecting this from Samsung, saving a couple cents in $1000+ laptops..

    I guess my option is either leave the lappy with Win7 Installed from my RC530 or risk it with a Win8 distro downloaded from the net. I think i'll stick with Win7 for now, and after backing up my external drives, clean up one to risk Win8 in it.

    Thanks for those clarifying answers. Cheers.
     
  12. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    Wait, if your laptop didn't come with Win8 (and I remember now from your other threads) then downloading a Win8 ISO and install using your existing Win7 product key is DEFINITELY not going to work.

    I think what you meant to say was your options are either to stick with Win7 or PURCHASE a Win8 upgrade ;)

    Microsoft had a $15 upgrade offer through February for Win7 laptops purchased after June 2012. I don't know what the upgrade price is now.

    Update: I am serious guys, please don't push it with this discussion. This is a great forum, helping a lot of people; why would you risk any harm to it by posting information that could cause trouble for NBR -- no matter how remote those risks are? You all know what I am talking about.
     
  13. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    If the machine shipped with Windows 7, then there should be a COA with the product key. If that wasn't provided then you'll need to purchase Windows 7 or Windows 8 for a new installation. Unless of course you can get Samsung to send you the key that shipped with the system and a disk set.

    If you are buying another copy of Windows, I would recommend buying the retail package and media.

    If you opt for the Windows 8 online purchase and download (from Microsoft), pay close attention to the instructions because they do include the ability to download the legit .ISO.
     
  14. hfm

    hfm Notebook Prophet

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    If it had windows 8 from the factory there should be a sticker with the product key on the bottom of the unit. I don't see what the harm is in asking for a copy of the media. It's useless without a product key.
     
  15. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    Turns out the PC came with Win7, not Win8. So an upgrade will be needed in this case.

    And there is no problem with this discussion, as long as the subject is legal downloads to be used with legal keys. But once it touches on where to find torrents or alternative distros, or exchanging copies, that puts NBR on the hook for the legality of the information being exchanged. That is why the rules state a zero tolerance policy in this area. It does that for a reason, so that's what we go by.
     
  16. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    Nop. There is no sticker with product key, which although it was odd, i though it was standart due to info provided above (key embedded in BIOS).
    Sorry for the confusion Dannemand, but these are different laptops in similar issues. I bought my friend a Series 7 NP700Z3C. Yes I'm a little jealous because he has 8GB ExpressCache and a 1600x900 14" LED HD+ display, but in the other hand, almost every other spec has nothing on my lappy. :D
    I didn't mention the model sooner cuz i couldn't remember it, had to browse history just now to find it.

    Back on topic, it still sucks we can't get even a reliable download source from Samsung, if not a disc in the first place. Many of us love to format and re-partition the drives, or even replace them for SSD's. It's unacceptable that Samsung is not considering this in the SSD times we're living.. bump! :mad:

    Thanks
     
  17. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    Got it, thanks for that clarification, skor. I understand now.

    I really think you should give Samsung a call. As I wrote, others reported being offered an OEM disc for a fee. Much less than a full win 8 or an upgrade.
     
  18. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    On the Series 9 with Windows 7 the sticker is on the PSU (presumably less chance of it getting worn away). I don't know was done on other models.

    John
     
  19. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    By, PSU you mean the charger? Inside the unit? I'll ask my friend to check and get back to you on this.
     
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    Serious question: isn't this covered by safe harbor? A website can't be held responsible for something posted by it's users and is only required to take sufficient action to remove the offending material if served with notice. By actively policing, you actually open yourself up to liability because you are now serving as an editor and taking responsibility for what is posted.
     
  21. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    I understand, I suppose that's a fair question. My point was never to argue the legal intricacies of NBR's liability (on which I am no expert), but merely to ask participants to protect this nice place and stay on the safe side, instead of trying to push the limits of what they can get away with.

    The facts remain that (A) this IS a moderated forum, so I don't think closing our eyes would get NBR off the hook; and (B) the forum rules clearly state a no tolerance policy in this area -- and that is what we go by.

    Rather than closing our eyes to potential infractions, I think your point would argue for just quietly deleting threads like this whenever they surface, and pretend they never existed. And maybe that would have been the better choice. In this case I felt (and still feel) that discussion of legal downloads of Win8 has value -- for the reasons argued several times by several posters: We've become used to it with Win7.

    BEFORE those Digital River Win7 downloads became available, nobody would have doubted for a second that discussions of "alternative" ways to obtain a Windows disc were illegal. Until a similar download option becomes available for Win8, we have to simply accept the law and Microsoft's decision not to make it available. It doesn't matter if you or I or anybody think that it SHOULD be available and copying a disc or downloading a torrent is harmless.

    Let's not spend more time on that debate. Just keep this discussion clean, don't try to push the limits, and we'll have some useful information gathered here.
     
  22. skor78

    skor78 Notebook Consultant

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    Reading through all your replies makes me really glad i open this thread.

    Initially i opened it thinking it was an isolated issue on which only I was affected. I never thought this issue would run so much deeper and affect that many people.
    Hopefully someone at Samsung or Microsoft take notice at this and similar discussions and change their policies, i know I'm over reaching, but believing is the first step. :D

    I agree with Dannemand, this thread was never intend for piracy purposes, and shouldn't take that road, it's true intent and righteous path is to find a legit solution for all of us who as a legit Win8 laptop and wasn't provided with proper solutions to format or exchage our drives..

    Thanks again for all of you participating here. Cheers.
     
  23. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    Some OEMs provide the tools needed for their users. Other OEMs don't. I personally think Samsung needs to improve their user support at many levels. Providing media or a way to create media is just one of them. At the very least you should be able to call and order the media that shipped with your system.

    As for Microsoft, I really do think they should provide the .ISO files on a high speed download service. If they are confident the security and activation technology in Windows will hold up to piracy and hacking, there should be no reason not to provide the installation images. If they did, at least people could get the bits from a trusted source server cluster.

    Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about: http://forum.notebookreview.com/len...m_drv-have-no-recovery-media.html#post9174196

    Try and do that with Samsung.
     
  25. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    Spot on, Thor. I couldn't agree more!
     
  26. Dannemand

    Dannemand Decidedly Moderate Super Moderator

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    That's a fair question. As I understand it, that would definitely be the defense anyone would use if they DID engage in illegally obtaining a disc and had to confront Microsoft in court. Of course it is also the supreme argument for why Microsoft should make these ISOs available in the first place -- exactly as Thor posted.