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    Sager NP9773 / Clevo P770ZM-G 980m with G-Sync 75Hz LCD Initial Impressions

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jun 5, 2015.

  1. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    It's the second to final layer; there's either a transparent or fine grain finish on top of the polariser (this determines glossy or matte and protects against damage). There's second polariser just after the backlight (unreachable) and before the actual lcd. Nothing to do about that, need a new panel then.

    Host the image somewhere else though; the link is pointing to gmail account (no access). Try Google Drive and use 'Share' option or some image hosting site.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yes the LCD is made up of many layers and really any damage can't be fixed.
     
  3. Gunrunner403

    Gunrunner403 Newbie

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    Ah I see, well as long as I have the option to change the panel in the future, its not too much of an issue for me
    Sorry about the image, here is another link
    Well if I do change the panel, can you guys recommend some websites for some panels? Also is there a certain way to take out the panel? I've messed around with computers before, but I have never tried removing a laptop screen before, but I don't mind trying. Is the tear down similar to HTWingnut's panel replacement video on the p650?
     
  4. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    You have an LG LP173WF4-SPD1, which is eDP type (30-pin) and, hence, so is your cable. If you keep it like that then the screen replacement is as simple as that video. Do place new panel top-down on a towel or something, not straight on the keyboard/palm rest. Also, take care to handle by the sides, never lift by squeezing fingers on front- and backside (unless you want permanent bright, white spots).

    Assuming you'll keep the cable (and replacement simple) there's not that many panels to choose from, think these three are it. The Samsung might have the connector on different side of the panel as well. You need bottom-left type, otherwise the cable's too short. SPD1 is matte, SPF1 glossy, not much difference otherwise.

    One issue with all three; cost. Unfortunately, 17.3" IPS were in short supply and are still in high demand (undeservedly so, frankly). The one you have now was one of the first available and is still priced like nobody's business. Expect somewhere around $150. Worse is that this cost isn't justified; it's good, but there are better panels for half the cost. Laptopscreen doesn't carry it on their P770M page (all lvds), but you could ask them specifically for the SPD1 or SPF1.

    Alternative is LVDS panel, but you'll need new $25 cable (from your reseller) and it'll take more effort (removal of keyboard + power button bar). Plus; no G-Sync then.
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    There are high gamut screens around in some models now so hopefully they make it on to the open market in time.
     
  6. Naxos29

    Naxos29 Newbie

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    Been running into an odd issue with my np9773. Normally I hit the power button, the Sager logo pops up, and then I instantly get dumped to the desktop.Every 1 out of 3 startups or so, I'll power on, the sager logo will popup, and then the screen just goes black and never turns on. Power is still on, fans are running, just no desktop. Not quite sure what is happening here.
     
  7. Brent R.

    Brent R. Notebook Evangelist

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    This has been happening to me lately also and it just started doing it I would say last week maybe? The only thing is that I have a np9377sm-a, maybe it is a Windows bug? Do you have windows 10, because thats what I have.....
     
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    Brent R. Notebook Evangelist

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    Please let me know if you find the cause of this and/or a solution it seems this issue for me on my NP9377SM-A is getting worse and giving a blank screen for so far up to an hour before I can screen everything on the screen. Thanks! :/
     
  9. Naxos29

    Naxos29 Newbie

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    Yeah I've got the 9773-s. I guess it started when I installed windows 10, though I installed windows 10 like 2 days after I got the machine, so not sure if that is a factor. Does Sager have some sort of shortcut when initializing the BIOS and everything? Startup seems awfully quick, even with an SSD and desktop CPU, dunno if there is an issue there. I may end up taking it up with Xotic.
     
  10. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Have you updated all your drivers to W10 versions from Sager.

    Quick Boot is enabled by default.
     
  11. Naxos29

    Naxos29 Newbie

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    I think nVIDIA just released a driver update today for W10. Will update this and let you know how it works.
     
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    Did you get a chance to update this and see how it works?
     
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    Naxos29 Newbie

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    Still happening to me after downloading the NVIDIA drivers. I'll go ahead and update the rest of the drivers from Sager and see if that fixes it. Just anecdotally, if I hold the power button down for a few seconds instead of just tapping it, that seems to work consistently, though I'm not sure why. Will let you know what happens after all drivers are up to date.
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

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    Might be worth reflashing the bios/EC as there is code in there to delay accpeting a button press and starting up depending on how long the button is pressed to stop the machine starting by accident.
     
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    Naxos29 Newbie

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    Can confirm that I have not had this issue as long as I hold the power button for a couple seconds on startup. Haven't tried reflashing the BIOS, though this seems like a likely culprit for the above reason.
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yeah some little part of the startup firmware is being funny. At least you can get it on reliably for now.
     
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    potanx Notebook Enthusiast

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    @HTWingNut so how is it? after playing in G-Sync can you back to P650SE with no G-Sync sir?
     
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    HTWingNut Potato

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    You can, but it's kind of like going from Blu-Ray to DVD or 4k to 720p. You can live without it, but you'd much rather live with it.

    I have since built a desktop with a 27" 2560x1440 144Hz G-sync LCD with 980 Ti, and it's quite smooth.
     
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    potanx Notebook Enthusiast

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    how about overclocking the monitor in p650SE? make it to 75Hz same specs as G-Sync Laptop monitor can i do that in this laptop? how to unsinstall or delete the optimus feature?
     
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    Can't OC LCD in Optimus laptop unless supported by Intel and currently their drivers do not.

    Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Hopefully the new drivers which have this so called bug fixed will eventually allow this :)
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well it is a bug, even if you wanted to limit the pixel rate to the stock level then it should allow a reduction in resolution/increase in clocks.
     
  23. basicspat

    basicspat Notebook Guru

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    Hey guys, had my NP9773 for a 3-4 months now and loving it. I use a laptop because I move around quite a bit throughout the year and am only "home" for about 4-8 weeks/year. In the next 1-5 years I will be living full time at that "home" so at that point, I will be ready for a desktop w/ 144hz monitor + mechanical keyboard, etc. I am thinking about getting the 144hz monitor and keyboard now and just using it with this laptop while I am at home.

    Are there any issues with plugging and playing a 144hz monitor and keyboard into this laptop or will it be as simple and plug and play?
    Do you see the prices of good 144hz monitors going down soon to the point where it'd be a lot smarter just to wait and buy when I'm for sure moved in?
    Any specific recommendations for the monitor / keyboard? (I've been using a laptop for games for the past 6 years and have never played on anything higher than 144hz. Also never used a mechanical keyboard, but I'm definitely going to get both of these things. I also play a wide variety of games, but mainly Counter-Strike.)

    Thanks.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    I don't think you will see any issues running the 144hz monitor with that setup. I believe the MDP only allows for 120Hz, but it will still run the monitor, but temper your expectations. Asus makes some good monitors so i'd look at them. Maybe the Corsair k95 for the mech keyboard.
     
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    basicspat Notebook Guru

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    Thanks, I appreciate your reply. You said something about the MDP, but from what I've been reading, this laptop has DisplayPort 1.2, not a mini display port. And I also read that most monitors are capable of achieving 144hz from DisplayPort to DisplayPort, so would I not be fine then since I'm not dealing with a MiniDisplayPort?


    http://www.amazon.com/VG248QE-1920x1080-DisplayPort-Ergonomic-Back-lit/dp/B00B2HH7G0 an example of a monitor that achieves 144hz through the DisplayPort.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Yes you are correct. Sorry for the confusion!
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes the mobile cards with direct display port connections have no issues with 144hz monitors (My P570WM/NP9570 connected just fine to my Asus swift 1440p 144hz display).
     
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    Alucardoo Notebook Enthusiast

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    How about using this laptop's 980m i to the optimus laptop such as p150sm or p150em? Does it work? I mean without g-sync.
     
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    I believe you would just need to load a prema mod bios on there for it, might have some more luck in this forum -http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/htwingnut-review-of-sager-np8268-clevo-p150sm-a.748888/page-56

    There's also a lot of posts on the p150sm and questions about upgrading the GPU etc.
     
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    There is no optimus and non optimus card, so you would treat the card the same as any other of the same model. As Alex mentioned above that still requires some planning and steps.
     
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