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    Power Draw via MXM Interface

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by thegh0sts, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Anyone know what the max power draw a GPU can pull through the MXM interface? i just ask because I see MSI releasing 1070s and 1080s without external power and Clevo releasing with power (but not compatible to the previous model of the P870DM-G). So I am wondering if the lack of external power input will affect performance?
     
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    dont quote me on this but id say max continuous power draw around 150W and max peak around 195-200W.
     
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  3. Meaker@Sager

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    If you are designing the card, the motherboard and choosing the socket provider it can vary a LOT, also the TDP of the cards can vary a lot now too.
     
  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Older generation boards where designed for up to 125W. Over the last years designs targeted more like 150W.

    1080:

    - TDP (Core): 125W+
    - TGP (MXM): 150W-220W (vendor dependent)

    1070:

    - TDP (Core): 85W
    - TGP (MXM): 115W

    1060:

    - TDP (Core): 65W
    - TGP (MXM): 78W
     
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    I think the first set of MXM-B was 75W with the 480M being the first to push up to the 100W mark.
     
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    very interesting numbers right there for the 1070, that explains why 3.0b designs were possible in the Zotac Zbox systems :p it consumes even less power than a 980M!!!
     
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    so why does the Clevo MXM cards have external power then?
     
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    $$$
     
  9. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It was cheaper to re-use a single design for all new Clevo cards after NVIDIA stopped carrying the entire designing costs and is only providing guidelines and assistance.
     
  10. thegh0sts

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    so is there any benefit for the Clevo 1070 to get external power when compared to the MSI version? like more power = better overclocking etc.?
     
  11. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Once fully unlocked probably, stock not so much except reducing the load on the slot itself.
     
  12. thegh0sts

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    oh ok, the 1070 laptop seems to have a bigger boost over the desktop variant of 202MHz while the desktop has boost of 177MHz. I only have to OC by 38MHz to reach the desktop's boost clock or 63MHz to align to the desktop's base clock. so I would think that anything under 100MHz OC wouldn't be that much of a strain when it comes to TDP.
     
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    in the end, voltage is what makes a cpu/gpu gobble up more wattage, clocks alone dont really do that much :)

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    i don't intend to push it too far cos and i don't think a 38 - 63 MHz OC would be considered as even mild.
     
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    The design on the 1070 is very robust so should play well with unlocking as prema stated, over-volting the GDDR5 would likely yield nice gains due to the better signal integrity too.
     
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    Don't forget mobile 1070 has a few extra cores on it.
     
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    Yep, 2048 vs 1920 (128 extra, one cluster), to make up for slightly lower boost speeds.
     
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