*** Official X8100 (Sager 8120) Owners Thread ***

I remember it being on the previous C2(q or D) modle, but i dont see it now.

How many mini pcie ports are there?

 

just to confirm what Alex said, i had stuttering on the m980nu, I now have the x8100 and remain stutter free

 

Yes although theres only a few on the market. The Asus G51J is one.


Edit: Already Answered

 

Be AMAZING if this laptop did

 

Broke down and ordered my X8100.

Malibal Veda
I7-720
4GB Ram
2 80GB X25M Intel (from newegg)
500GB HD
2x285's
Arctic silver.

The guys at Malibal were awesome and it should be here by the end of the week.

3100 out the door with a 2 year warranty.

 

Why did u get 2 ssds?

 

Well I finally joined the club too.

Kobalt G890
i7-820
4gb ram
80gb ssd
500gb hd

Cant wait for it to arrive

 

Agreed 2 SSDs is massive overkill surely 1 SSD and 2 x 500GB Storage would give you best all round option

 

A lot of folks have multiple SSD's in a RAID. The speed is immense. Whether it's overkill, is up to the customer, no?

 

Yeah it is up to the the owner, but imho its not good value for money.
Dont worry I wasnt starting a flame war, just merely stating my opinion which is what these forums are here for

TBH I was very keen on getting the SSD for my lappy but after chatting with the guys at Kobalt it was suggested that the 920 with overclocking would be better for my circumstances. So I patiently wait for the BIOS to come with the OC features working correctly. If is does not happen then I made the wrong choice and I would have much prefered the 820 and 1SSD and 2 500GB I quoted.

 

What would be a waste, is to get multiple SSD's and not put them in a RAID, i.e just to get enough storage space. Then the speed of the SSD would mostly go to waste. Putting them in RAID to up the speed is not waste; it works.

 

Well after much deliberation and forum research I have finally decided on the 8120. Thanks to everyone who posted helpful topics and answered the questions as they came in.

Here is the final configuration I decided on, I will add my own 500GB HDDs to the mix once it arrives:

Sager 8120 Intel® Core i7 Desktop Replacement Gaming Notebook (Built on Clevo X8100)
18.4" FHD WUXGA Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Dual Lamp Screen (1920x1080 resolution)
2X DUAL SLI nVidia GeForce GTX 285M Video/Graphics Card w/1GB (1024MB + 1024MB) Memory
Intel® Core™ i7-920XM EXTREME CALPELLA Clarksfield Processor 2.0-3.2GHz(45nm 8MB L3 cache)
8GB (8192MB) DDR3 1333MHz SDRAM (4gb + 4gb)
160GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 Solid State Hard Drive "SSD" Serial-ATA II-Lasts 1.2 million hours
Panasonic 6X BD-R/8X DVD+-R / 2.4X + DL Blu-Ray BURNER with Software
Integrated-Built In Fingerprint Reader
Enhanced High Definition 3D Audio Sound System with S/P DIF Digital Output - SB Compatible
Integrated Built-In Bluetooth Module + EDR
Internal Built-In 7-in-1 Memory Card Reader (MS/MS PRO/MS DUO/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RSMMC)
Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Digital Video Camera (Built In Webcam!)
Integrated Built in 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet / LAN Network Card
Integrated Built in Intel 6300 Ultimate-N WiFi Link

 

Congrats thats going to be an awesome machine, I am pretty sure you will not be dissapointed when it arrives.

 

Yeah the SSD's are going in Raid.

The way I saw it is I need 150gb storage on my main partition just for apps and OS. So 2 80GB SSD's in Raid was actually cheaper then 1 160GB SSD.

And the speed will make sure the HD is not the slowest link.

Memory and CPU can be upgraded later but I really wanted both of them a notch higher.

Only the benchmarks will tell if I made the right choice but for HD video editing I think raid SSD's will be right for me.

 

This is the beauty of buying a Clevo machine over one of the preconfigured mainstream machines, the customisation of the build to suit each individuals needs is priceless to be honest

 

The only problem with RAID SSD's is the lack of TRIM support.

 

Aye, that's true. But the best quality SSD's - like the Intel's - show remarkably little degradation over time anyway. You can get by quite well without TRIM.
And my guess is it won't be long before the TRIM/RAID issue will be solved.

 

I noticed in the manual that to replace the upper ram chip you remove the CPU heat sink. The CPU appears to be socket'd. Thus easily upgraded, unlike in the old days where Laptop CPUs could not be upgraded.

So is it socket'd and thus just a plugin to change the chip?

 

Yep! 10char

 

yup change the cpu in less then 10 minutes

 

What do you guys know about the viability of the 920XM Engineering Samples sold on ebay? Problematic?

 

*Should* work.

 

How about heat, stability, reliability, etc?

 

ES are usually just as good in regards to that, as they're often sent to companies for testing/review before a release.

 

Hmm,
So would this be a viable plan that makes sense. Sell my OEM 720QM and buy the 920XM ES to replace it? I don't want a buggy, crashing, overheating machine, if ya get my drift here.

 

My X9100 was a QS, and I had absolutely no issues with it running at stock at all. Only issues I have had was the machines it was in having thier own issues!

If the changeover was affordable, then that would likely be a viable route in the future if you decided you needed the power.

 

The 720s sell for around $300 and the ES 920s are a little over $500, seems like I would have $200-$250 in the upgrade. Sounds like a good deal if the processor works well.

 

end of the day you take your chance with an ES, you have no warranty and are not covered the any kind of sales act as selling ES chips is actually against the LAW

so if you get one, be aware that it is very much a case of buyer beware

 

Yeah I get that for sure. I was just hoping someone had some experience with these chips and could shed some light on their issues if they had any.

 

Does anyone know anything about the bios File: X810402.zip released 3/30/2010
What enhancements does it offer?

 

http://translate.google.com/transla...wAg&prev=/search?q=X810402.zip&hl=en&safe=off


if this french forum is to be believed, this bios update siginificantly improves webcam performance / quality. which reminds me, i gotta try out that webcam someday.

 

Since this thread is kinda slow today, I'll ask a question!

Does the esata/USB port supply power when the Laptop is shut down but plugged in?

I've seen this on other Laptops and was just wondering if the 8120 does it?

I just got a kewl Razer Mamba that needs charging and that would be an awesome feature for it.

My 8120 will be here on Wednesday!!

 

The M980NU didn't, it could be different for this, but MOST laptops won't do this so as not to exhaust the battery.

 

The ones I saw did this while on Mains power.

 

no it does not

 

RATS!

Thanx!

I see you had the precursor to this, how would you rate this compared to the M980NU? Pluses and Minuses?

 

tbh there isnt alot of difference

The 285 vs the 280 isnt alot of change gameplay wise, in syntethics is about 10% faster but its not noticeable

Cpu with the i7 is much stronger then the qx9300, but again in games you dont notice it

my advice to anyone with the M980Nu would be dont change until the new fermi cards arrive

 

Anybody used this case?

http://www.amazon.com/Nx-18-4-Inch-Metropolitan-Case/dp/B0029ZA4Y6

Looks like a good deal on a good case that would fit well.

 

I see on Clevo's site that they have a new bios (X81_106) again and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it!

 

If its just out, Im going to grab mine tomorrow so if I remember I'll ask about it.

 

its not out they havent released it, its just been put on thier ftp

people need to stop mining thier ftp

not everyting there is for general release ffs

 

I must say, the BIOS on these has to be the least featured I've ever seen, well not ever, but almost ever!

 

I've seen a few laptop BIOS this sparse, its nothing to worry about.
Oh and for anyone who was interested in the sound tweak I mentioned previously, the subwoofer active option IS available with the Dolby Tab if you have the Clevo customised Realtek drivers installed.

If you've got Clevo's drivers in, even when the speakers are set to stereo, you can set the 'sub' to takeover on bass and lower mids.
I'm using Win7 right now, but to find the option go into Windows playback devices, right click speakers then go to properties. Go to the Dolby tab, tick natural bass then set it to 5/6.

Job done.

Helps a lot.

 

I don't have many nicks to complain about.

But...

The Sound output would be one, as well as the sound quality. The KB is a little mushy, and the edges of the Laptop are a little edgy where your arms rest on it.

Would have preferred a Flat finish as well.

But the rest of it is awesome. Runs cool as well! I was worried about that.

 

Yep pretty much covers it, try the bass tweak, it helps the sound side and turns it from tinny rubbish to listenable (well if you're not an audiophile anyway).

 

i have a problem with my x8100

everytime i enable SLI (285M GTX) and start a game, i get intense screen flickering
without SLI everything works fine...

i tried different nvidia driver from Laptop2go and direct from nvidia but no driver fix the problem...what can i do?

have someone a solution for this problem?
and for the x8100 owner, which driver do you use?

(Sorry for my bad english but im from Germany)

---------My Notebook Setup--------
mySN® XMG8.c 46,7cm (18,4") Gaming Notebook
. 18,4" FullHD Aktiv Matrix Glare TFT - (1920*1080)
. 1. Grafikkarte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285M 1024MB GDDR3
. 2. Grafikkarte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285M 1024MB GDDR3
. Intel® Core™ i7-920XM | 2,00 - 3,20GHz 8MB
. 2048MB (1x2048) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1333MHz
. Seagate Momentus 5400.6 250GB, SATAII, 5400U/Min (ST9250315AS)
. Panasonic UJ-240 Blu-ray Brenner 2xBD-RE 6xBD-R DVD±R/W/-RAM/±DL
. Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300
. int. Bluetooth-Modul

BIOS 1.00.06
EC 1.00.02

Driver that i try:

197.45
189.64
197.16
188.10
187.82

None of this Drivers fixed the problem..
MFG Filly

 

It's interesting that you say this. I get this flickering when I start the game and then the Game Loads and I don't have any more issues. It takes a while to settle down. I just get a back flickering screen for like 30 seconds and then the game loads. Is that what yours does?

 

hmm nope, i have this problem the full time... i test it with Street Fighter 4..
...the Game starts..the first screen with the logo from Nvidia dont flicker..the next logo beginns to flicker after that the last logo dont flicker and then the full game flickers all the time.. it dont stop after several seconds..

that behavior make me think its a driver problem.
what drivers do you use les garten?

EDIT: if i run 3DMark Vantage in SLI it flickers too

mfg Filly

 

Mine doesnt flicker, beyond any microstutter that might be noticeable during low frame periods. Could be something like a damaged/crimped SLI cable or a screen issue.
On the other hand I had a memory stick that went the way of the dodo so my own issues lol

 

Hi,
I'm using 197.44