*** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

The new beast has arrived! Meet the new Clevo P870TM1/EVOC P870TM1 now with Coffee Lake CPUs with 6 Cores/12 threads and supports 3 PCIe NVME m.2 SSDs in RAID 0 for insane storage capacity and speeds!

Where to buy:

- HIDevolution




Specifications:

Display
17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - TN type - LED Matte Type Display

Optional:

17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - TN type - LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - synchronizes display refresh rates to the GPU to enable ultra smooth gameplay.

17.3" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) AUO LED Matte Type Display

17.3" 4K QFHD (3840x2160) AUO LED Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology - synchronizes display refresh rates to the GPU to enable ultra smooth gameplay

Video Graphics & Memory

Single or Dual nVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1080 256bit w/ 8GB GDDR5 X (16GB Total) in SLi with or without nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology

Processor Support and
Heat Management

HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i5-8600K Quad Core Processor, 4.0 GHz ( HIDevolution overclocked to 4.5GHz), 9MB Smart Cache - 6 Cores - 6 Threads - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

Optional:

HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i7-8700K Quad Core Processor, 4.7 GHz ( HIDevolution overclocked to 4.8GHz), 12MB Smart Cache - 6 Cores - 12 Threads - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded and Tested, Overclocked 8th Generation Intel Core i7-8700K Quad Core Processor, 4.7 GHz ( HIDevolution Overclocked to 4.9GHz, rated at 5.1GHz), 12MB Smart Cache - 6 Cores - 12 Threads - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra Included)

Custom Prema BIOS once available (only if bought from a Prema Partner Shop)

Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface - BEST PERFORMANCE


Chipset
Intel® Z370 Chipset
System Memory (RAM)
16GB DDR4 at 2666MHz (1x 16GB)

Expandable to 64GB DDR4/3000MHz

Hard Drive
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

Optional:

Up to 3x M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs or, 2x M.2 SATA III + 1x M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs, supports RAID 0 or RAID 1

Up to 2x 2.5 inch 2TB SATA III Hard Drive or 4TB SATA III Solid State Drive

Optical Drive
None, external optical drive available

Card Reader 6-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC up to UHS-II)
Video Camera Built-in FHD (1080p) Web Camera
LAN/WLAN Killer DoubleShot-X3™ Pro (Integrated 2x Killer Gigabit Ethernet LAN + Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 + Bluetooth, M.2) with Smart Teaming
Optional:
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF + Bluetooth 4.2

Input/Output
2x Thunderbolt™ 3 (JHL6 540) / USB 3.1 Gen 2 combo Port (Type-C)
5x USB 3.0 Ports (USB 3.1 Gen 1, 1 x Powered USB port, AC/DC)
2x Mini DisplayPort 1.3 output Ports (Supports 4K @ 120Hz)
2x RJ-45 LAN 10/100/1000 ports (Killer DoubleShotTM Pro)
1x HDMI 2.0 output Port with HDCP (Will support 4K output for games, but will not support copyright protected video files that require HDCP 2.2)
1x Microphone-in jack
1x Line-in jack
1x Headphone-out jack
1x 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone / S/PDIF Optical output)

Audio
High Definition audio interface
S/PDIF digital output
Built-in Array Microphone
Built-in two speakers and a subwoofer
Sound Blaster™ X-FI® MB5
ESS™ SABRE HiFi DAC for high resolution headphone audio
External 7.1CH audio output supported by 2-in-1 Audio, microphone, Line-in and Line-out jacks

Keyboard and Touchpad
Full color illuminated full size keyboard with numeric pad and anti-ghost keys
Fully programmable macro capability – customize individual key as hot key / multiple keystrokes in one key
W/A/S/D gaming key

Integrated touchpad with Microsoft PTP multi-gesture and scrolling function

Power
Battery Removable 8 cell Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 89WH
AC Adapter
Dual Full Range 330W AC Adapters, AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 19.5V, 16.9A with Power Converter Box

Optional
780W AC Adapter - AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 20V, 39A

Dimension & Weight
16.85 "(W) x 12.13" (D) x 1.86" (H), 428 (w) x 308.1 (d) x 47.24 (h) mm
12.13 lbs. including Bare bone, VGA Card and Battery Pack, 5.5 Kg


Other Features
Kensington® Lock
Integrated Area Finger print
Illuminated Top cover
FlexiCharger
Virtual Reality ready
Support Windows 10 Cortana with Voice


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we really need to see the heatsink changes in this laptop, it'll definitely help a lot of peeps make their choices.

 

time to sell my P870DM-G!

 

lol looks identical to the KM1, I'm assuming only the motherboard changed?

Also curious to see if cooling has changed.

 

Really interested in what the heatsink looks like as well.

Im probably not going ot be buying this mainly out of budget for me.

 

Availability: Late October-Early November.

We will get the temps reported as soon as we receive them. In the mean time, to get in line, because at the beginning the supplies will be very limited, you might consider placing a Pre-Order. You can cancel if you don't like what you see once the temps are reported.

 

Do you know if the heatsink designed has changed at all?

 

According to Eurocom twitter its different but no pictures yet

 

Yes, it has.

Keep in mind that Clevo has to make it right for all of their dealers that DON'T delid and undervolt by default as HIDevolution.com does. We will just take what they provide, and make it better.

 

theres also the issue with 8700k shortage from intel

 

Yes...hence my statement "...because at the beginning the supplies will be very limited..."

 

btw i wanna ask, the m.2 ports are they 5v or 12v? or both?

 

I don't have that spec.

 

Welcome back 6+ cores to DTR industry since the P570WM, I was waiting and asking for that for almost 3 years. I have to go to check the prices.
Any pictures from inside, hope that it has enhanced cooling solution.

Nice review @Phoenix, hope that you come back to Clevo team soon, we are really missing you.

 

That's why the HIDevolution is always one of the best, all respect.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0tm-p775tm-p751tm.809578/page-3#post-10613441

 

Can I use those images to post them in their respective threads?

 

@Phoenix


I see they're still using the same keyboard with the really small right side shift key.


If it wasn't for that maybe I would be more forgiving for the keyboard.


Edit: might be less of an issue to those who type with less than 8 fingers + space thumb.

 

any chance the new heatsinks could possibly fit the old p870dm3 and thep870km1??

 

Looks like different shape, probably wouldn't fit the chassis for CPU heatsink. But that's only my speculation.

Maybe the GPU heatsink will fit, looks like a more convenient option for those who often mess with the laptop internals. Shame that the GPU heatsink fins inherit the smaller profile of the KM1 VC instead of the beefier DM3 VC.

 

Will need a bit of modding to the frame section next to the CPU socket. But too early to tell.

 

Less disruption in the fin stack from the heatpipes though.

 

are you saying that km1 Vacuum chamber is different from dm3? I have never paid attention, are they really that different? do you have pics to compare?

 

what is that extra frame anyway?

 

Read here

KM1 have one pipe from Vapor Chamber to the Cpu HS grills vs. two for the older model.

 

so that's just extra passive cooling?

 

Expect a small fan on top of the CPU HS. None have seen it. But why the extra bracket?

 

interesting... thanks!

 

think smaller fin stack, 1less heat pipe on the bridge


cheaper model, less material

 

I wonder if the small sink array over there is soldered or not

 

Would be stupid if they don't soldered the small grills.

 

are there any pics online to confirm that? I remember having both heatsinks at the same time and did not notice the difference.

 

Even if it is, I find it hard to believe that the tiny little fin stack on top of the pipes is going to do much for temps... with a skinny fourth fan or not. I could be wrong, and it will be good if I am wrong. It looks kind of chintzy to me in the photos. Looks more like an after-thought home-brewed mod or something, rather than a meticulously engineered product enhancement. But, sometimes chintzy looking home-brewed mods are very effective, so I will reserve my opinion until we have some results to look at. Proof will be in the pudding.

 

But according to past design choices, Clevo and stupid ideas go really well.

New KM1 VC


https://i.gyazo.com/f1477db50c6b7f705dd2f47d0b54bca0.jpg






Old DM3 style VC mounted on a KM1 unit


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/213639694833942529/306740161922990090/image.jpg

 

thank!

but are the fins really shorter or just perhaps covered up in KM1?

 

There is a huge air space for fan pressure to leak on the KM1. The fans are like 5mm taller than the heat sink radiators. Let me see if I can find the picture I posted before. Not good.

 

The DM3 fin array is taller and soldered to a metal brace on the top, slightly making heat distribution more even.

The KM1 fin array is shorter and doesn't have the reinforcing brace.

 

Here it is... simply ludicrous.

I used blocks of foam to plug the holes...

 

Less material is cheaper to manufacture

 

And, the outcome is also cheaper (as in 'inferior' cheaper).

 

And now for TM1 with even less material

 

Maybe the vapor chamber is more effective than it used to be. Based on looks alone, it will not be good enough. But, looks can be deceiving, so I say wait until the fat lady sings. If she sings badly, we can brutally berate her incompetence in the forum, LOL.

 

Why couldn't Clevo use the cover over HS grills for GPU's in KM1?

 

Good question. Probably to save a couple of bucks. It's kind of sad because their biggest fans are the opposite. We are willing to pay for excellence and despise cheap junk. They must not be paying attention. Oh, wait... none of them pay attention. I guess we can't blame Clevo for acting like their competitors. It would be unfair to hold them to a higher standard. Right? (No, I didn't think so either.)

 

Use a bit higher HS grills than use the cover would increase the cooling for the old models. Would help on KM1 also.

 

@Mr. Fox

My MSI GT73VR Titan Pro's cooling is far more superior than Clevo's flaships...... they have very good heatsinks with a perfect fit, no luck of the draw like with Clevo

 

Try push +130w Cpu powa in Cinebench. I’m sure it will be

 

Mine fit fine now. No problems of any kind now. MSI laptops won't bench at 5.2GHz and good fitting heat sinks are not something I would view as an acceptable trade off for settling for BGA. I'd rather take my chances with the heat sinks not fitting well and having to address that because there is nothing I can do to fix the BGA defect.

The heat sinks in my MSI fit well, but they struggle to keep things cool with the way I overclock that little monster. MSI does not build their laptops with the thought that owners might be pushing them as hard as I push mine. MSI also had Clevo beat on the firmware cancer defect. Never have seen gimping that bad before. It was pretty disgusting, and it cannot be fixed 100% like Clevo. It still have some power limit gimping holding it back.

I'm pretty sure neither Clevo nor MSI (nor any other notebook OEM) give a rat's ass what people like me value, which is why I do not intend to buy another laptop in the future. I'm about 99% sure I've had enough of the hokey games they are playing with cancer firmware and shoddy engineering. Enough is enough. Tired of correcting their mistakes. After I finish the 1080 mod for the DM-G I am really tempted to sell all three of them and use the money to build a desktop. That's what I intended to do last time and made a last minute decision to go with the DM3. I still love the DM3. Best laptop I have ever owned and the most powerful ever made, but I'd still rather have a desktop at this point so I can push it harder than I can push the DM3, only with 400% more cores and threads.

Based on my experience with MSI, I do not plan on including anything made by them in the desktop build. MSI build quality is really excellent, but that is not enough.

 

MSI CEO after reading your last statement........