*** Official Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM Owners Lounge ***

You don't need a cooling pad, the design is solid and the computer stays constantly cool.

 

Agreed.

If your room temps are in the normal range and you do not bench or game for several hours at a time then the cooler is not needed.

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I'm about to pull the trigger on either a malibal or an xoticpc 8170. I had a couple questions that I'm sure I could find if I wasn't so bad at searching!

If I buy with a 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache), will it be easy to add in a http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-256GB-SSD-SATA-CT256M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JL2A/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320942423&sr=8-3 as a second drive? I've never really played around with installing my own components on either a desktop or laptop, but I assume it shouldn't be that bad? The m4 seems like a much better bargain than the intels that malibal/xotic offer for SSD options.

I guess that's it. I am excited to get a new laptop and will hopefully order today.

 

Check out the disassembly guide here: P17xHM_ESM.zip

It is relatively easy to replace the drives, and Sager includes a recovery DVD you can use to reinstall Windows. Just use the Windows key on the bottom of the laptop to activate

 

Ordered.

Order Details

1 x Sager NP8170 / Clevo P170HM () = $1,857.00
Outside of U.S. Shipping Coverage No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
Warranty Sager 2 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty w/ Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Customer Support (SKU - S9R206)
Software Bundle (Not Installed) No Software Bundle
Microsoft Office Software No Office Software
Operating System ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS Purchase
OS Redline Boost No Operating System Redline Boost
XOTIC PC Redline Boost™ Extreme Performance No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
Notebook Cooler No Notebook Cooler
Mouse / Keyboard Accessories No External Keyboard or Mouse
Headsets None
Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters No Dock/Hub/Adapter
Spare AC Adapter None Standard*
Car Adapter No Car Adapter
Battery Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
Case Basic Black Business Case - Included
Sound Card Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
TV Tuner No TV Tuner
Camera Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
Wireless Network Accessories No Network Accessory
Wireless Network Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth (SKU - S8R110)
Bluetooth None Standard--
Back Up Software No Back Up Software
Memory Card Reader Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
Floppy Drive No Floppy Drive
External USB Optical Drive NO External USB Optical Drive
External Hard Drive (Back Up) No Back Up Hard Drive
Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
Optical Drive Bay 6X Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special! (SKU - S7P557)
Raid HDD Raid Settings - OFF
Second Hard Drive None Standard
Primary Hard Drive 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S5R207)
Exterior Finish Standard Finish
Branding Sager Branding
Ram 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4R371)
External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
Graphics Video Card ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD6990 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 $100 OFF (SKU - S3R151)
Thermal Compound - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Processor 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM, 2.2-3.1GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache) (SKU - S2N224)
Dead Pixel Warranty 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty (On any screen)
nVIDIA Wireless 3D Vision Glasses (For 3D Screens) No Spare 3D Glasses
Monitor Calibration NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
Display 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - S1R506)
Xotic Gear No Xotic PC Gear
Build Time Rushed (1-4 Business Days) (Subject to Parts Availability)
Current Promotion SAGER Sale!!! - $100 OFF When you spend $1500* or more! (*excludes accessories, shipping, non Sager items & taxes)
Confirmation of discount will be provided after Order Processing. + Sager Price Protect & Chance for Xbox 360 Giveaway!

 

Awesome, thanks for your business nchabazam! Don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.

 

I'm in process of trying to get decent hedphones for this laptop, I'm leaning towards Beyerdynamic 770 Pro 80hz.

I found this info on our sound, trying to figure out what we output.
What is S/PDIF & Line-In Jack, what do I use these connections for ?

High Definition Audio
3D Enhanced Sound System
S/PDIF Digital Output
Built-In Microphone
THX TruStudio Pro
7.1CH Audio output supported by
headphone, microphone, S/PDIF & Line-In Jack
5 Built-In Speakers and One Sub Woofer

 

S/PDIF is your optical audio output, usually used for connecting to home theater surround sound systems. Line-in is for when you want to input sound into the machine. In 7.1 mode though, it becomes an output jack to support the required speaker channels.

 

I'm trying to reinstall the PowerDVD8 which shipped with my machine, and it's asking me for a serial number (CD key).

Where should I find this?

 

Are you installing it from a disc that came with the machine? Generally, that code is included on a yellow sticker on the CD sleeve. If you didn't find the disc double check the sleeve in the included bag as they sometimes like to hide it there. If you didn't receive the disc, you would want to contact your reseller as they should be able to get that code for you.

 

Has anyone else with the 75% color gamut screen not able to adjust the brightness? Not that I need to, but it helps when I'm using my laptop at night and don't need it so bright.

if anyone knows how/if I can fix this please let me know

 

Are your hotkey drivers not working? You can try reinstalling them from Sager's website or your CD if that is the issue. Otherwise, maybe try reducing the gamma factor from Nvidia control panel/CCC?

 

Ok about to order this and I think I've done my research. Anyone here see something that would make a better value laptop? Im in the $2000 range. I have 16gb 1600mhz kingston hyperx pnp and 7 ultimate at home for it.


Sager NP8170 (Clevo P170HM)

Sager Sale!!! - $100 OFF When you spend $1500: SAGER Sale!!! My order is $1,500.00 or more!

Display: 17.3" FHD LED AUO B173HW01 V.4 90% NTSC SuperClear Display 1920 x 1080

Zero Dead Pixel Insurance: None

Video & Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6990M with 2GB GDDR5 DX11

CPU Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM (6M Cache, 2.40 GHz)

Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU

Operating System: None - Drivers & Utility Software Only

Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333 (4x2GB) (SPECIAL DISCOUNT!)

Branding: Remove All Branding

RAID Storage Options: RAID-0 Storage ( Data Strip) *

Primary Hard Disk Drive: 500GB 7200rpm SATA Hybrid with 4GB SSD **

2nd Hard Disk Drive: 500GB 7200rpm SATA Hybrid with 4GB SSD **

Optical Drive or Hard Drive: 6X Blu-ray Reader / 8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Dr

Wireless Network Card: Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module

Primary Battery: 8 cells smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh

Integrated Security Device: Integrated Fingerprint Reader

Microsoft Office: None

Warranty and Services: LIFETIME Limited Labor and 1 Year Premium** Parts Warranty

Additional Power Adapter: None

Additional Battery Pack: None

Carrying Bag: Standard Carrying Bag

Shipping Method: FREE UPS Ground Shipping to the CONUS!

 

Just to know : Is there money left of your 2000$ with this setup ? And do you really need the bluray reader ? What will you do with this laptop ?

Personnaly I would opt for the intel 6300 instead of the Bigfoot 1103 (or the Intel 6230 to get bluetooth) and if you can save money on the CPU with a 2670QM and opt for the DVD writer (no bluray) you could put a Crucial M4 128GB and you would be more than satisfied with this change IMO !

 

Pretty close on the $2000 now, but I am open to suggestions. I don't mind going over. As for the blu-ray, I don't need it. I would like to hear your reason for the Intel as when i searched I found reviews saying the bigfoot was faster, I have no personal experience with either of these.
I was kicking around a ssd I can do a
Primary: 120GB Intel® SSD 510 Series SATA 6.0Gb/s
Secondary: 750GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Disk Drive
and still be ok with the price if i axe the blu-ray.

 

That is a very popular and great setup having the primary the 120GB Intel SSD 510 and the 750GB 7200rpm in the second slot.

You might want to check out the below thread for a Bigfoot, Intel 6300 discussion.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/620216-bigfoot-1103-vs-intel-6300-speedtest-net-results.html
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Hi

Just wanted to ask if any one here uses the Seagate hybrid as their main drive?

 

Yes there are many Clevo / Sager users that have the Seagate hybrid drive as their main drive.

You might find more users chime in if you post in the MAIN thread.
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Hey Ownasaur,

I think I am on the verge of ordering the same config as yours.

Can you tell me if i7 2630QM is enough for battlefield 3? I plan to play with ATI Radeon 6990M.

Also, I have order 4-SO DIMM 8 GB RAM instead of 2. Does this make any difference in performance?

Thanks for the help guys. These forums are great

 

This is my saved quote for the satori P170 - MALIBAL.

Promotions: $100 Off Configurations Over $1500
Display: 17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit Glossy Display
Display Upgrades: A+ Grade Panel With 45 Day Perfect Pixel Warranty
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.2-3.1GHz
Memory: (8GB) 8192MB, PC3-10660/1333MHz DDR3 - 4 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: AMD® Radeon HD 6990M 2GB GDDR5
Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
Optical Drive Bay: 8X Multi DVD+/-R/RW RAM Dual-Layer Drive
Wireless: Intel® 6300 Ultimate-N 802.11A/B/G/N LAN Card
Cooling: Stock OEM Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: US & Canada
Branding: None
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 1 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
Extras: Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Web Camera
Extras: Integrated 9 in 1 Card Reader
Extras: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Extras: MALIBAL Software & Drivers Disc
Extras: PowerDVD & Bison Cam Software Package

 

Ok guys this is gonna be a long one but i hope you can help as i have spent hours pouring through equally biased reviews of the clevo np8170hm laptop and the alienware m17x r3. I know you guys may be a little biased but i want the Clevo alot more than i want the alienware

Ok, so what im looking for is the most basic laptop i can get my hands on with a quality screen and a HD990m minimum for less than £1100 (but i can eat bake beans for the rest of the year if i have to spend an extra £100 )

To start i will post the basic spec of the 2 laptops i have in mind starting with the alienware:

English Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)
Alienware M17x Stealth Black
Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 2670QM (2.20Ghz, 6MB, 4C)
2GB GDDR5 AMD® Radeon™ HD 6990M
4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048]
320GB (7,200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
17.3" WideFHD (1920 x 1080) WLED LCD
DVD+/-RW (DVD, CD read and write)
Dell Wireless 1501 wireless-N - EUR

price £1170 using quidco cashback and 15% off offer


And the Clevo spec (btw this is from pcspecialist.co.uk):

Vortex II: 17.3" Glossy Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Intel® Core™i3 Dual Core Mobile Processor i3-2330M (2.20GHz) 3MB (i choose i3 because someone mentioned it will make little difference on high resolution due to the i3 being a sandy bridge. Also i know some games are quad core but i can upgrade later)
2GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (1 x 2GB) (i have another 2 gigs at home)
2GB AMD® Radeon® HD 6990M - DirectX® 11 (17.3" Vortex II)
250GB SERIAL ATA II 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 8MB CACHE (5,400rpm) (i have a 320gb 7200rpm at home)
8x SATA DVD±R/RW/Dual Layer (+ 24x CD-RW)
ARCTIC COOLING MX-3 HIGH THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9) (keeps it colder prolonging life)
1 Year Dead Pixel Guarantee Inc. Labour & Carriage Costs (£19) (is this worth it? how many you guys got a dead pixel in the first year of use?)

price: £1101 or £1200 with the same cpu as the alienware (i7 2670m)

Now from all the reivews ive read i have gathered this info:

Clevo case is quiet and runs cold and the alienware fans sound like a hairdryer and burns peoples laps because it gets so hot.

Some reviewers say the clevo chirclet keyboard is "grade A" some say its good but too noisy and others say its terrible. Mixed bag with the mousepad too. Alienware gets good review all around with slight keyboard flex mentioned.

According to Anandtech the clevo screen is appalling with rubbish viewing angles and has about a quarter contrast-ratio of what other reviewers have said the clevo has. See here: AnandTech - AVADirect's Clevo P170HM with GeForce GTX 485M: High-End You've Been Waiting For

How much of the above is true?

Please answer. I really, really need some help as trying to decide how to spend so much money is making my head hurt

 

i got my sager 8170 in early july. the case runs pretty cool, and idles quietly. i've got the nvidia 560m gpu and the 2720 cpu, and am idling about 40 degrees celsius. i'm not a gamer, so i can't say much about its running when gaming, or with the amd 6990.

as for the screen, i believe that anand review is out of date. the early 8170s shipped with an LG screen, but, at least in the US, they are now shipping with the Hannstar, which anand gave rave reviews to (with however an ASUS G73 - search for anand's review of the G73). you might check with your UK reseller, which screen is shipping. if it's a Hannstar, it should be fine.

 

Okay, I'm not sure this is the best thread to bring this but it seems fitting. I'm not actually the owner of the Malibal Satori P170HM, but my father in law bought it a couple months ago purely on my recommendation. He loves it but is having an issue with the wireless, so here I am to try and figure it out..

Basically what's happening is he's playing EQ2 and suddenly his internet cuts out randomly for a short time. Not long enough to completely disconnect him, but long enough and often enough to cause problems. He sits on the floor below his router almost directly underneath it. No one else is having this issue, either wired nor wireless, so I doubt the router is the problem (at least not directly). When he moves upstairs the problems disappear, so I'm thinking it's his wireless card.

The first thing I'm thinking is maybe driver issue and installing latest drivers might resolve it, but looking at the support page I see the driver seems to be from 2010 so I think he may have the latest. We took the default wireless option (Internal 802.11B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card) since he doesn't need the most efficient option. I'm thinking it may have better to go for the more expensive options though.

Has anyone heard of an issue like this?

 

fantastic info about the screen! i will get right on that and ask them now

Ok it uses the new screen and while the contrast of the clevo is better than the alienware its white balance is the lowest ive ever seen which makes gaming a nightmare anywhere except in a dark room right? Its got better colour accuracy but not as good gamut but that really dosnt make much right? To summarize the alieware is going to brighter and more colourful while less colour accurate (by 10%) and have half the black balance of the clevo

 

Found some info that makes me wanna stick with the i3. If you look at the link below you will see the i3 2330m ranks 67th best cpu in the world at the moment and is very closely matched 3dmark06 score to the i7 620M which is 39th. I know sythetic benchmarks are not much to go by so if anyone knows some real world benchmarks to back up my claim that would be much appreciated although i dont think anyones ever made a hd6990m laptop with an i3 core.

Mobile Processors - Benchmarklist - Notebookcheck.net Tech

really awesome review of the desktop sandy bridge cpus here to: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/20

 

^^^^ Sorry I do not understand... having an i3 CPU in this model has not been done by any of the dealers and resellers that I know of.

Can you explain more why you want to stay with an i3?
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to save about £100 . But i shouldnt be cheap and just go for the i7

 

Ok, I made my order. Thanks for the input and helping me make up my mind on the options.

Display: 17.3" FHD LED AUO B173HW01 V.4 90% NTSC SuperClear Display 1920 x 1080
Extra nVidia Active Shutter Wireless 3D Glasses: None
Zero Dead Pixel Insurance: None
Video & Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6990M with 2GB GDDR5 DX11
CPU Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM (6M Cache, 2.40 GHz)
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Operating System: None - Drivers & Utility Software Only
Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333 (4x2GB)
Branding: Sager Branding
RAID Storage Options: Non-RAID Storage
Primary Hard Disk Drive: 120GB Intel® 510 Series SATA 6.0GB/s SSD
2nd Hard Disk Drive: 750GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Disk Drive
Optical Drive Bay — Optical Drive or Hard Drive: 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy: No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
Wireless Network Card: Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
Primary Battery: 8 cells smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh
TV-Tuner: None
Integrated Security Device: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Microsoft Office: None
Warranty and Services: LIFETIME Limited Labor and 1 Year Premium** Parts Warranty
Canada Warranty and Services: No Canada Warranty
Additional Power Adapter: None
Additional Battery Pack: None
Carrying Bag: Standard Carrying Bag
Shipping Method: Shipping Special!!

 

Hey guys - what kind of temps are you getting with Skyrim? It seems like my avg is 85 degrees and it'll spike at around 95/97.

 

I'm getting about 82C on normal fans, and 74C when fans are set to constant 100% on normal GPU clocks.

 

Temps over 90C are worth worrying about. Are you using your machine on a hard surface? Are your ambient temps rather high? I'd consider repasting the CPU/GPU or trying a cooling pad if neither of those are issues.

 

Yes 95-97C temps are a concern. Are you making sure that your vents on your machine are fully free of any obstruction. Is it on a flat hard surface?

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Received my brand-spanking new 8170 yesterday. I am-a-so happy! Unfortunately didn't have time to do anything other than take it out of the box and stare at it as I fell asleep. After work tonight will be a completely different story. Once I get it set up, I will perform a complete set of benchmarks. I will also post them if anyone is interested, as this machine has been out for quite some time now, but perhaps not with the i7-2760 configuration.

 

I am using my machine on a hard surface. My ambient temps are slightly high, they are in line the rest of the machine (avg temp, top temp, etc).

Yes, I am. I think it may be time to repaste them...which is weird because I bought the laptop earlier this year (right before summer time). Typically, if you game fairly hardcore on it how often should I be repasting?

 

Congrats! Yes please post your impressions.

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Did you get the stock thermal paste or did you pay to get it upgraded? If it is stock then a repaste isn't out of the question, however, it should have lasted longer than that. Grab some IC Diamond or Arctic Silver, that stuff lasts for a very long time.

 

I paid to have it applied.

 

Just to continue the conversation for others reading, I'm PM'ing some troubleshooting tips to see what the cause is

Worst-case scenario, we might need to get the laptop back to Sager for some warranty work.

 

Sure. I'll keep this up to date, I'm currently going to reset HWMonitor values and run the game for 5 minutes - swap back and see what my temp is.

Edit: So after coming home, booting up the computer, and playing Skyrim for 30 minutes the temp was high. So I did something I should have done before posting ANY of this...I checked my fans. It turns out my GPU fan is not turning on..sooooooo I will be shipping my Sager in for repairs.

 

Hope that turns out well for you.. But thanks for putting that idea in my head to check for, I didn't order the p170 I orderd the p180hm which should be delivers today. I know this is a p170 owners lounge but my pcs forum is dead..lol but anyways my specs are the 2630qm processor 2.9 12 gigs 1333hz ram 500gig 7200rpm drive DVD tw drive duel 6970s crossfire windows home premium 64 bit big foot wireless killer wifi and stock thermal paste... Yes I know stock paste sucks but I have som artic silver 5 I put on my desktops so... My question is how long does this stuff last? And what are some good gpu temps as it will mainly be used for the upcoming starwars the old republic mmo.. O yeah my reseller is malibal. And can't wait for the ups man to come!

 

I've heard different opinions on that. Anywhere from every 6 months, 1 year, to 5 years. I really don't know...I would suggest you do this, apply the thermal paste play a relatively demanding game for an hour...BF3 or The Witcher 2 (I suggest TW2) and record your temps. Keep those temps in mind as you continue to play through out the life time of your machine. If you see the temps begin to climb 5 to 8 degrees, perhaps you should consider reapplying thermal paste. I personally, I plan to repaste anytime my temps get at a consistent 87+ degrees. I don't overclock so my thoughts appear to be reasonable. Also my reseller is XoticPC and I made a thread in the Sager forum to document my experience for the repair.

 

It does vary based on usage, but most higher-end stuff will last for quite some time. We use IC Diamond because it stays good for so long.

Also, there might be a little bit of curing time, so what Getawayfrommelucas said is a perfect way to cure the thermal compound.

 

I got an email at lunch time that Xoticpc has shipped my NP8170 and I got excited. I then went to my desk and there was the Sager box! What a surprise!

Time to install Win7 and get crackin.

 

Haven't you heard? We've started using teleportation scrolls instead of UPS.

I've been playing way too much Skyrim.

Anyway, let us know how it runs for you! Feel free to shoot me or your sales advisor a PM if you have any questions.

 

I envy you . Poor me I am still waiting for my refund from Sager which is taking too long almost half a month now and a month already since I shipped it back from them. why is it taking too long.

 

A note about the 120Hz screen. After Win7 install, I noticed mine defaulted to 60Hz and I just switched it to 120Hz. Anyone have any input on to the 120Hz settings? It's ok to just leave it at 120Hz all the time? Any reason to keep it at 60Hz? Any pros and cons?

Screen Calibration... any pointers as to how to calibrate this beautiful 120Hz screen? I want to get the most accurate colors & brightness as I should.

 

I made two profiles with Spyder 3 Elite. One for 80% brightness (two notches down) one for 100%:

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ENJOY

 

The question for reseller: if i order NP8170 3D with 560M e.g, i should be able to upgrade it to the next gen Nvidia GPU, right? the other thing is there any news about implementing Nvidia 3D Vision 2 with new glasses for 3D Sager laptops? tnx

 

For the 120Hz, you may only want to use it when you're on AC. The doubled framerate causes the GPU to work a bit harder, so it will drain your battery a little faster than normal. Otherwise, there aren't any downsides to keeping it running all the time

For the screen calibration, I'd suggest getting your hands on a Spyder 3 or any other calibration tool. If you can't, you can always try to use the Nvidia control panel to match it by eye. Some people have recommended using the color/paint sample sticks you can get at art and home improvement stores to calibrate it by eye. Of course, the professional tool will work much better and with less work.

 

I'm seeing temps over 90C regularly in Skyrim and other games, on a hard surface with my wallet under it propping it up a bit in the back (but not covering any intakes), repasted with ICD7 (done a few months ago and then done again last night just to see if the first was a bad paste job), ambient temps around 70F.

I'm definitely getting a ton of hot air out of the exhausts.

Here's a shot of CPUID after 5 minutes of spectating a Dota 2 game. All my temps look high -- is CPUID reliable for reporting temps?