*** Official Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM Owners Lounge ***

How much was taken off the price by removing the HDD and RAM?

 

Work with a reseller and they will quote it for you (Justin@XoticPC from XoticPC, Paladin44 from PowerNotebooks, babyhemi from LPC Digital, MALIBAL from Malibal are the ones I see here most). I'm assuming it'll be close to the same amongst resellers, but I don't want to ruffle feathers...

 

I hope they can remove the CPU and ODD too.

 

Just email or message one of the people that htwingnut suggested. I am sure they will be able to help you out as much as they possibly can.

 

QUOTE=kevindd992002;7055292]I hope they can remove the CPU and ODD too.[/QUOTE]

ODD probably, but CPU might be a little hesitant. If you want one that stripped, then best to go to RJ Tech. You can buy a base system without any components (CPU, GPU, Memory, HDD, ODD).

 

Yes, I bought my last two laptops from RJTech. It's just that XoticPC is the best when it comes to after-sales support, I think many would agree with me on that.

 

So, when I eventually get this, will all the necessary drivers be installed; or will I have to use a separate disc to install them? Also, what version of NVidia's drivers does the 485M come with?

 

Yes if you order yours with no OS then use the Driver CD to install your drivers that comes with your order automatically. If you order with Windows then the drivers are already installed..

 

Hello dear users of Sager NP8170.
I am from Russia, sorry for my bad Inglish.
I heve a question about Sager NP8170.
Where in it 5 speakers? In pic it the Sager page marked only 2 speakers and sabbufer. Where other 3 speakers? In specification in text I see 5.1 speaker sistem.

 

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opelfrost, phanks you, but in specification I see text: Built-in 5 speakers + 1 subwoofer.
Where is this speakers? I not see it in pictures...

 

According to the Clevo user manual, there are 3 speakers on the bottom in front of the HDD & battery locations (+ 2 on top of the keyboard). You can grab the user manual from Clevo's website below and look on page 40.

Download

J

 

HELP PLEASE

Im ready to make a move. Looking at NP 7280 with the i7 950 @3.02 with a SINGLE 485m. sager says that the sager 8170 sandybridge is a different class than the 7280 because the 7280 is a desktop cpu.. (i knew that) and that the 7280 performance is better then 8170 and the sandybridge. true or false? I like the looks of the 7280 better... what should i do? go with the 7280 i7 950 or the 8170 2.3 ghz sandy brdge? ill be playing games.. ie; warcraft aion/tera

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

That is by all means true. There is no laptop Sandy Bridge offering that can out do the performance of a NP7280 properly configured at this time. Of course the NP7280 is about 5 lbs or more in weight...

 

hehe thanks for your input!!

 

Including the optional ones on the CD (IE: touchpad, USB 3.0, THX TruStudio Pro, etc...)? Just want to make sure, considering this will be the first time I do a clean install.

 

Hmm I already placed an order for this laptop but I'm wondering if replacing the Geforce 460 for the 470 is worth the $200... seems like alot for not a huge difference

 

There is a noticaable increase in performance customers are telling us of the 470M over the 460M. Of course it would depend on ones budget...

 

The 470M is in an awkward spot. If it's worth $200 over the 460M, the 485M is definitely worth $295 over it.

That's why I'm choosing between the least and the greatest.

 

I'm ordering the np 7280 i7 950 12 gig ram with one nvidia 485m this Monday. Sick system

 

Yeah, you can probably OC the 460m to the performance of the 470m. I know then you can probably OC the 470m even faster, but the gains there are probably minimal. The GTX 485m is effectively the same as 460m in SLI.

 

Hmmm, I will probably request the 470 instead of the 460, better than shipping it back for an upgrade later on down the line.

I've been doing a little research regarding the 2nd generation quad-cores. Apart from the better performance, what are the supposed benefits of the sandy bridge line? Are they simply more efficient? I guess its a little too early to ask seeing as no one actually has one yet, but just thought I would ask the more experience bunch here

 

Well, early indications show the low end quad core i7-2630QM is more powerful than pretty much all the previous gen quad cores.

The 470m isn't a bad upgrade for $200. Although if you've ever built your own desktop, you would easily be able to update your own CPU and GPU in these Sagers. But I doubt not for a $200 price bump, most likely significantly more.

 

There's an Inspiron 9300 in my house, it weighs 7.7 lbs. Whenever I carry it I say 'when I buy a laptop it will never be a 17' '. I thought clevo produced lighter laptops but I just checked the weight of the 8170, it's 8.6lbs The majority of you guys are probably keeping it stationary

 

I'm 6'5", 200lbs. This machine will feel small to me. My current 15" is flat out too small for my monster hands.

I also have to say, if you heard Clevo made light machines, whoever said that was sorely mistaken. I think 'manageable weight' is the last priority on Clevo's list, if it's there at all.

 

thanks, i appreciate the reply

 

I thought the same thing and I have a Dell Inspiron 8600 and it's a tank. Gotta be 7 lbs. easy. But it's survived 7 years of travel and one hit by lightning which fried the Ethernet port. I've been using the PCMCIA slot as an Ethernet port ever since.
I am likely to buy a 17" because on the plane I really don't use it I have a Netbook for small stuff. But when I get to where I'm going I need the power a bigger laptop has and I really need it to do everything since in most countries you can't trust internet cafe's. I have nothing on my Netbook worth stealing so I'm not afraid of public WiFi.
But if I had to compromise and use it on a plane I would get a smaller lighter machine than a 17". Power on anything worthwhile is usually pretty low and I can do most things on the Netbook but no big projects.
Laptops need to be pretty tough to travel and it sounds like Sager builds tanks, which is a good thing.

 

Question? Does anyone know if it will be possible to activate the switchable graphics (Optimus) in this system?

It sound like it doesn't come installed but with all the customization that is allowed you would think there would be a way?

Also is it worth it upgrading from the i7-2630QM to the i7-2720QM or higher in terms of gaming performance?

 

I answer no, to all of your questions, especially to the 2630QM vs 2720QM.

 

Thanks for the clarification .

Any ideas on the battery life, I know that something like this is going to be on a desk most of the time but still would be nice to at least get 2 hours out it.

Also anyone know what kind of screen this is going to use? I have a Dell Studio XPS 16 with RGB LED screen and I really don't want to give up the screen quality.

The final thing that has been holding me back from ordering is that I heard that the sound quality is usually really bad on Sager's compared to other models so I was just curious if that has any truth to it? This would be my first Sager so coming from mostly dell's and Toshiba's I am a bit nervous.

 

What's your build?

 

Please read from page1, all your questions have been asked and answered already.

 

Phanks You!
How do You phing, shifting of center speaker to the left side (near left speaker) be have an effect on perception of 3D sound?

 

If I were to purchase this laptop with the 460, do you think it would be possible to upgrade to the 485 down the road? I see the power requirements are a bit different, does that matter?

 

You can upgrade it later, yes.

 

Yes you will be able to upgrade.

 

Great thanks for the response. If you purchase this laptop with only 1 HD, does the second hard drive bay come with a caddy for adding a hard drive later? I would think that it would, but my HP laptop required you to buy a caddy, sata cable, etc. seperately to add a hard drive in the second bay.

 

Yes it does come with a kit for a second hard drive. If for some reason it does not then your reseller will provide this for free..

 

Sager NP8170 (Built on Clevo P170HM) Custom Gaming Laptop
Display: 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1080)
Processor: - Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
Thermal Compound: - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Graphics Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
Ram: ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
Primary Hard Drive: ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)

cost: ~$1680

 

Last question before I purchase this bad boy. If I don't go with an operating system and just get a disc with drivers and utilities, does that disc come with software to play Blu Rays? Anyone know what "utilities" that disc has?

 

You sure it's not a GTX 470M or you have added something and didn't mention it above
This setup on xotic pc is nowhere near this price (less)

 

Yeah because that config is $1454 (non cash)

 

Ah yeah, I also purchased an extended warranty and windows 7 software- thats why there is a little price discrepancy haha.

 

Quick question: Does this laptop support Optimus, if I were to select a 485M?

 

No, it does not, and probably won't ever.

 

Ah, fair enough...

I mainly asked because I was wondering why I wasn't seeing the $200 price bump between the 460 and the 470 like you mentioned in my own build. Think the reason is once you go with the higher base build of the S1 model some of the price difference is offset.

 

Exactly, that is the point of the -S1 derivative...S for Special pricing.

The -S1 derivative starts with an upgraded configuration, but a discounted price over the identical configuration on the standard Sager NP8170, Sager NP8150 or Sager NP7280.

 

Still no answer as to why WiDi 2.0 has been disabled for Sager models. Because it's unsupported by Sager

 

For Widi to work you need to be using the onboard IGP, which on the 8170 has been disabled.

I was really hoping they would have Optimus enabled (which then enables use of the onboard IGP) on these high end laptops so I could use the quick sync and widi support

 

Yea the new Optimus models (which should be dropping soon), will have WiDi 2.0 support. Speaking to our Netgear rep we are looking at March/April for the release of the Push2TV 2 (HD) that will be able to support 1080P and HDCP so soon, as we have a lot of optimus laptops and other widi enabled gear in the field (business's love WiDi) and can't wait for the new 1080P stuff