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They were supposed to call me back but haven't yet. I'll try them tomorrow if they don't call back today.
Yes I was told they don't support the 460M etc...
Your laptop does because it's in their list of ones that do support 3D.
Now if you had a Sager 8150/8170 and snapped some pics of that playing on a 3D monitor when they claim it's unsupported that'd be different.
I believe your G53 does because they say it does.

 

Whats this? A delicious box of 95% gamut matte finish screens...





So now that we have our retail order, besides the angles, what do people want to see of these screens?

 

WoW!

I'll contact you via PM.

How many you got 'em in stock?

 

A Bunch and we can always get lots more =)

 

When providing the viewing angles, could you also provide a side-by-side comparison with the default matte screen on the 8130? I am trying to decide between the two matte screens. Thanks very much.

 

Would love to, but I don't have that laptop in the shop, but I do have that screen so I can shoot a few pictures of it.

 

So is the screen upgrade worth it? From what I've seen the stock glossy is pretty sweet already.. How's the matte?

 

@Mythlogic,

Correct me if I'm wrong but I assume that the screen is identical to that one. Pretty awesome if true!

 

Yup, same screen. Will be taking some pictures of the base glossy screen, the 8130 matte screen and our high gamut matte screen. Tomorrow I'll take all 3 out into the sun so you can see some outdoor performance. I wish I could make a thread lol

 

Great news! Eagerly waiting for the pics! You can ask mods to create a thread for you and give you the ownership. This surely deserves a special attention.

 

Here are some pics I snapped tonight. No making fun of the room, I know it is a mess Pics were taken with an Iphone so I apologize for poor quality in advance.

 

Awesome +1! I used to have an optoma projector. I sold it when I had my kids, kinda wished I kept it. It was only a 1024x768 one though. I guess if I go to buy another one I can get one that's 720p.

 

Awesome,

so the projector doesn't have to be 3D compatible, cuz it merely sends the frames that was sent over the HDMI 1.4?

Cool...

 

Hello everyone,

I've been reading and heard from retailers that this lappy is getting close to 2 hours of gamining time, and i was wondering if anyone had any clues to battery life under regular usage, such as web surfing, typing up papers, music/youtube, etc. (will be pulling the trigger, as soon as this is confirmed )

Thank you

 

Welcome!

Unfortunately, due to the CP chipset recall, you won't be receiving this until March-April-ish.

But yes, battery life gaming for 2 hours is correct, though it should theoretically be underclocked on battery and therefore consume less power than AC power connection.

Maybe some others can chime in on the battery life..

 

I've been following the news on sandy, but i didnt think there was going to be a full recall on these bad boys. Do you know if most retailers have confirmed? I just cancelled my moms Sager NP5160 due to the already delays, and decided to purchase my 8150 as it was already out

 

Well, sadly, if it has a Sandy Bridge chipset in it, nothing is out...anywhere.

The good news is the Sager NP8150 should start shipping at least a couple of weeks before the Sager NP5160.

This reminds me of when the ASUS G73JH was launched on New Years Eve last year, but didn't start shipping until early March. So, a 4~6 week pre-order situation is not that unusual.

 

I might be miss understanding you, but please correct me if I am wrong. When you say nothing is out, do you mean as no consumer is able to get thier hands on it at the moment? reason I ask is I came across a review of the 8150, earlier today where somebody purchased one from LPC-digital.

 

Some were shipped before the Intel stop order was issued on January 31st. However from that point on they can no longer ship. The ETA for shipping to resume is mid-March for the NP81x0 series, and late March to early April for the NP51x0 series.

 

hmm more waiting. I guess it won't hurt to pre-order so that everything will be set. Thank you, you've been alot of help!

 

You must have a TV or projector that has a certified 120hz panel (not the gimmic 120hz ready tv's you see all the time, those actually have a 60hz panel.) There are a ton of 720p 3D projectors on the market but you are mainly interested in a projector or TV that is certified for 3D. The Optoma pretty much sits in at the top because of contrast ratio and brightness rating. If you want a cheaper solution the Acer 5360 is just as good with a lesser contrast ratio and sometimes onsale at the egg for around $480 shipped. I am using a 12.5 ft throw and getting about a 100" screen with the HD66. If you want a short throw projector, I would look at the Optoma Gametime GT720 which can be found on fleabay for a good price. When I had that one it would do a 120" screen at about 8 ft if I remember correctly.

The only downside to the Nvidia kit is it forces everything into 720p regardless if you have a 1080p TV or projector (I actually have a 1080p 3D projector as well.) For the price of my bulb on my home theater projector I just use the Optoma HD66 since it cost me $600 and the bulbs are only like $140 to replace when the time comes. If you look at how much a 24" 120hz LCD costs (a true 120hz) the projector is the best bet for price when gaming.

To keep things on topic, the 485M has doubled my frames over the 460M in 3D which is what I was hoping for. I absolutely love this laptop although my secondary HDD is starting to momentary "freeze" for 1-2 seconds when gaming and then recovers. It is very random but I am starting to wonder if it is the CPU causing this already because it did not do it when I first built the laptop.

 

Yes but it looks like your laptop is setup for 3D The Sager isn't.
The card seems capable of doing the job but it seems that nVidia holds back the drivers unless the companies pay more for the drivers.

 

Could this be caused by the defect in the chip set?

 

Ouch, that sounds about right.

I remember Speedy was going to switch panels with the m17x R3 when it arrives, to check if the nVidia GTX 470m SLi config's will be compatible with the 3D mode.

Unfortunately, the SB fiasco has delayed that epic testing, and we are all waiting patiently for another important milestone of self-upgrading....

The 3D screen!

 

Well if those so called "approved" units have the same graphics cards then it has to be the drivers. Nvidia wants to make money on both ends and in the middle. This is why 3D will never take off. They need a standard but everyone is too greedy.
I can live without it. But it would be nice to have for once in a while. I'll probably just get a really good 2D monitor for much less money.

 

Just to give a little insight to those on the fence about 3D. In my opinion, it's not nearly as awesome as you think it is. Sure, it has very high novelty value and looks great, but some issues exist. I own a Sony KDL-46NX810 and the glasses are cumbersome. They start to hurt the nose after about an hour of use. The 3D also isn't perfect. Ghosting exists in the foreground or background (depending on the depth setting you choose) which causes images to have a white "outline." Also, I have a fairly strong stomach, but viewing some things in 3D, such as FPSs, churns my stomach. Also, with games like Gran Turismo 5, having it in the cockpit view is preferred. However, in 3D, that ghosting effect takes its toll heavily. I may need to work out a few settings, but it's definitely not playable.

I only use 3D for watching any movie that isn't action, and for any game that isn't a FPS.

Again, this is only my opinion and I'm just urging users to do a bit more research on experiences before shelling money out on a 3D setup. It's cool to have, but after having it for 3 months, I've used it in 3D maybe 10-15 times.

 

Well thanks to all of you have been posting and reviewing the Sagers. I've been converted from buying a Dell because of being able to configure the lappy, as I would like to have it, sans a back-lit keyboard. I have officially ordered to get in queue for the new SB's. I've never played any of the games y'all have mentioned, but what got my attention was the performance, and the backing these lappies have garnered. Thanks for all of the info I've learned and will continue to learn so that one day I can help someone as you have me.

 

Welcome,

I like your sig, especially the (for now) part.

I'm in the same boat.

 

Hi thanks for your insights, I'd agree with you that it's a novelty. I doubt 3D will ever really take off, it's more of a gimmick.
And a pretty limited one at that.
Still IF I'm going to get it I'd rather it be for a PC monitor than the Big TV I watch everyday.
The cost is pretty steep for an initial buy in. But wearing glasses ins't a big deal I've been wearing mine for over 40 years now.

 

What about those inbuilt 3D monitors, they exist don't they? Well, at least I've seen them in electronics stores. Novelty maybe, but I think these will fix the unecessary need for 3D glasses.

 

By secondary I'm assuming you mean you got an ODD tray and put your hard drive in the tray? That uses port 2 and could very likely be due to the SATA failure. However, if you have access to another hard drive you might want to image your current one to the other one and see if it exhibits the same issue.

What hard drive is it?

 

How is the secondary hard drive being used when gaming? Is that where you have your game installed? If so, I would recommend only installing your games and other software applications on your SSD, and leave your secondary hard drive for storage only.

 

Assuming you mean until SATA controller is fixed, correct?

 

OS is on Intel 80GB SSD, games and apps are on Momentus XT in ODD bay. I do a lot of editing so I waned the hybrid drive. Could be a drive issue I guess. I may swap it out with a regular SATA drive to see if it fixes anything.

For those complaining of ghosting in games I would say this is dependent on the type of panel you are using. I have seen the regular 24" LCD's that do 3D and there is ghosting. If you use a DLP-based TV or Projector there is no ghosting in games or movies (or so barely visible you can't even tell.) I have a $4,000 projector that does 3D and there is ghosting because of the type of panels it uses. My cheap-o Optoma for $600 has none.

I would say 3D is hit or miss but this laptop can do it and the kit isn't expensive so I would at least consider it if you are a gamer and have a capable display.

 

Not necessarily. Unless there is a good reason to install applications on a SATA II hard drive port when you can install them on your SSD using a SATA III port I would say the SSD is where they should go, as long as you have room for them.

How much free space is on your 80GB SSD?

 

paladin44 if you're referring to games and apps in general, I would leave them on the hard drive unless there's any benefit from going on the SSD. Games take up a huge amount of space, and no real benefit from installing them on the SSD. Also, the Intel is SATA II speeds only.

Now if the concern is for the SATA controller chip failure. I agree. Use the secondary drive as little as possible until its fixed.

 

Some games take a loooong time in between map loads... In those cases, installing it on an SSD would be good if the space allows for it...

 

A lot of times that's not necessarily due to the speed of the HDD. It's processing and loading into graphics memory.

 

Also on the topic of screens. Here is some wonderful visual comparison pictures for everyone.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-between-different-screen-options-photos.html

The 8150 comes with the V.0 screen by default.

 

You're just trying to bust my wallet.. mythlogic.....

The panel looks soooo da*n good.

 

What's the difference between the matte panels that MYTHLOGIC sells and the matte panels at xoticpc and other places?

 

All data for the game is loaded from the hard drive. The entire game data is not cached in RAM/graphics memory. Whenever there is a transfer of data, the SSD will improve the load times. Check your hard drive activity levels in between large map loads.

Samsung tests

Gaming Website link

 

+1

I'd also like to know the difference.. I thought someone said that the one xotic is the same as the one used on the 8130..? Plus the xotic screen is like +$240ish while mythlogic was only +1hundred something..

 

Consoles are not a good example. They use slow 5400RPM HDD's to begin with. Plus you might shave a few seconds off the load times, imho that doesn't justify the hefty price tag nor utilization of SSD space. If you only have one or two games you might as well if you have the space. Otherwise it could be put to much better use.

In that Samsung report your quoted it says:
" 4.4% improvement in average game loading time was obtained."

4.4%. If it takes 30 seconds to load initially, that's less than 1.5 seconds.

The FPS improvement they're referring to are for games that stream content in, which isn't many PC games.

 

I can't speak for xotic, but the parts we are selling we are guaranteeing the part number you get and are free to get any and all information you want from us regarding it we don't sell "compatible". Also yea its way cheaper, and because we build your laptop from scratch anyway, it doesn't lengthen your build time as there is no "double shipping" (aka sager -> reseller -> you). We touch and love every machine.

 

We are using the same exact screens. As stated in the other thread we have been using them on ASUS laptops as a upgrade and recently started offering them on Sager machines. Our pricing maybe a little higher on the upgrade but our starting price on the machine is much lower.

 

Thanks Mythlogic and Justin for the clarification

 

*shivers* :x

 

Always gotta have your mind in the gutter don't ya :laugh:

 

My bad, that probably wasn't the best article to post, considering they are pitting a 10K raptor vs the SSD... whereas a typical config from a Sager reseller would pit a 7.2K vs SSD... I think the gains in that case would be a bit more imho...

That being said, you're right when you say that installing 1-2 games on the SSD would be fine but anything more is a waste.. I myself concentrate on 2 or maximum 3 games at a time so I don't usually have more on my system at once.. However I guess others may have several installed at a time and in that case priority should be given to applications as they would have the most benefit compared to games...