*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

Wow, I was not expecting another 15" chassis from Clevo but here it is: Review Intel Sandy Bridge Quad-Core processors - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

But I don't understand why Clevo used so much aluminum for the cooling the CPU. On the other hand the GPU seems to have a dedicated heatpipe for its memory, that's a step foward. Overall the cooling looks weaker than on the W8x0CU series.

 

So it's a W880cu rebrand with a sandy bridge chipset with weaken cooling !?

Edit: awesome performer !

 

It looks more like the chassis is based on the newer B5100M line, as it is also really slim compared to the W8x0CU chassis. I wonder how hot this GPU will get (it has 2 GB of GDDR5 - might be a 100W monster again) and the i7-2920XM needs some overclocking headroom as well. Looks like there will be a full review in two days if the GTX 485M is officially announced.

BTW the GTX 485M has one benchmark on notebookcheck (Dirt 2):

Holy crap...

 

Notebookcheck doesn't always run their benchmarks under the same conditions from one review to the next...and they also average their scores on top of that which often skews results.

It's why their GPU rankings are generally considered unreliable.

 

sorry to be off topic but who has the best GPU rankings then?

 

You'll find a few posters on NBR that know the rankings.

 

HOLY $#!% wth !!! its like waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the 480m ???
shouldn't it be like 585m or somthin like that ??
anyway that would make me look at my lovely 470m with depression and hatered xDD
well done clevo, well done Nvidia

 

Well done, but not that well as you may think.

 

Come on, Clevo. What kind of name is P150HM?

 

P for performance, 15 for size, 0 for generation, HM for chipset?

 

Whoo, stuffing all that into a 15" chassis? I was expecting at least a 17", Sager and Clevo never fail to impress me.

 

I think it's going to be 75 watts. Judging by the power connector for the laptop, it is missing the extra rail dedicated to the gpu which was required for the 100 watt GTX 480m. That means it's in all likelyhood going to consume less than 100 watts unless they did a complete redesign of the MXM slot.

 

I really hope not, I'm still hoping to put one in my current system.

 

All I want are two GTX 485M/580M's that can work in my notebook without issue. SB is nice and all but it's all about the GPU.

 

a part of clevo q&a(google translate)
GPU cooling module. The real heat of the high-end big game coming! Please look closely, an improvement compared to W860 is a separation of memory and chip design, both are independent of the heat-absorbing surface (red line marked the place.) This is the biggest improvement P150HM thermal module!
The advantage is: memory and the chip is difficult to maintain a level surface, or height value. If covered with a heat-absorbing surface at the same time and memory chips, can not guarantee the same time close to the cooling surface heating between the two surfaces, which in mechanics is very difficult, not only endothermic inefficient, but also increased labor costs and assembly line The scrap. (1656 a XD memory and chip in order to ensure full contact, four mounting screws of the pressure difference, the result is tragedy crushed chips)

 

A: The first P150HM configuration GTX460M card by the Council, in March after the HD6000M AMD will come. As for the upgrade of the mold, there is news that the second quarter of 2011 to the third quarter, clevo plans to design high-end notebook barebone some of the more personal things, such as the backlit keyboard

backlit keyboard good job clevile~~

 

6000M not until March, backlit KBs all the way in Q2. Ouch.

I might have to jump on the 485M after all. Please don't be ridiculously expensive. Please don't be... ah who am I kidding?

Nvidia NDA probably kept them from mentioning the 485M. It isn't up for a day or so.

 

Backlit keyboards, wow that's a miracle! Now if they add in better displays, they will have some solid machines.

 

They're all about high-end parts, I don't see why they couldn't offer an IPS option.

 

16:10! 16:10! 16:10! :d

 

Download links for the P15xHMx and P170HM manual. A few interesting points:

• apparently the P15xHMx come in two models: Model A (P150HM?) and Model B (P151HM?), the P170HM is called Model C in the manual
• comes with 120W - 19V/6.3A (Model B), 180W - 19V/9.47A (Model A) or 220W - 19V/11.57A PSU (Model C)
• bios option for bluetooth (always on)
• Model C has built in TV tuner option
• i7-2920XM only available in Model A and C (HM65 chipset)
• i3-2310M/i5-2410M only available in Model B (HM67 chipset)
• Support for 4 SO-DIMMs (only with quad core)
• Motherboard supports DDR3-1600 (only with quad core and max two 2GB SO-DIMMs!).
• Displays are all 16:9. Model A (1920x1080), Model B (1600x900) Model C (1920x1080)
• GTX 485M will be available only for Model A and C. GTX 470M is only available for Model C (lol?).

The point about the GTX 470M being only available in the Model C is interesting. So the GTX 485M really must have a 75W TDP, but then it should not beas good as the benches claim it is.

 

I know these models are 16:9. But maybe that future model with backlit keyboard will be 16:10.

 

I somehow doubt it, although it would be nice... I guess it also depends on whether the m17x R3 will be 16:10 or 16:9.

 

Now, if only Clevo would add the RGB screen options.

Keep smoking that hopium.

 

16:10 is old, high cost and no market now
mainstream will be 16:9
i bet clevo and m17xr? will all be 16:9 in the future

 

16:9 with a 2048x1152 resolution. *takes a puff of the hopium*

 

I was looking over the processors supported in the manual and immediately wondered whether or not the mobile sandy bridge cpus will be overclockable. I know for the desktop, only the K models are OC'able. What does that mean for the mobile cpus?

 

Chances are only the mobile X models will be just like the current i7's

 

At 3.1kg (6.8lbs) for a gtx 485 and a sandy bridge cpu, this is looking like my kinda laptop!

unless i've been uninformed of a lighter laptop with a 460m for comparison's sake.

 

It looks slim, but it definitely isn't, if you would look at the photo where the laptop's back picture is taken, it's freaking thick, I bet it's at least 2" thick and just as thick if not more compared to W860CU.

Yes, the change of design for GPU cooling plate is a good one. Uneven surface of chip and memory seem to be the main cause of most problems with W860/70CU.

Edit: hmm... ok, it's indeed comparatively very slim after seeing the manual. Dimension is 376mm (w) * 256mm (d) * 35 - 43mm (h), which is about 1.7" for thickest part, which is quite a bit thinner than W860CU's 2.0".

 

ditto.

i'm waitin for nvidia to release some of their next generation stuff, so i could snag me a 485m/580m. whatever the top single GPU, or 480m replacement is.

 

If the P170HM is an all new chassis, the chances of the W87/W88 receive 485M support are... not looking too good.

W880CU doesn't officially exist anymore.

 

sure w8x0 support 485m, a china guy just test it in w860cu
485m is just a 470m with a similar core and 4 more GDDR5
the pcb and heat sink are the same
but dont know whether resellers will sell it with 485m customize option or not

 

Neol,

When you decide to buy a 485m (and you will ....jedi mind trick) I'll take your 470m!

 

^^ It's very seldom up to resellers. If Clevo offers this option ( fully tested) -> the distributors will follow -> resellers will have to comply. Some will take the risky path and offer the shadow options, in which case, they will have to directly support the systems (losing the distributors warranty), risking higher return rate, and therefore raising the price. It's not always "fit the pcb and HS, install the latest driver and shoot em all". Unfortunately, with every new card for every given system, certain BIOS and driver tweaks may need to be done to reach the equilibrium.

...Wish I could just grab an upcoming FirePro M8900, shove it into my 8740w and have a flawlessly stable system...Dreams...

 

Ya, HP can be a soul crusher when it comes to upgradability. They make beautiful machines; I would still be running my HDX20 is they had just released a BIOS update to support the 280m. The card physically fits and works, but without a proper BIOS drivers won't install and the picture is fuzzy.

 

Did i get this correctly ? One 485m equals 460m sli ?

If so, that means 485m sli, in a x7200 chasis is gona be the strongest video card solution on the laptop market.

 

No big surprise given its stats. Same amount of shaders, faster memory bus and it being a single card makes up for the higher clock rates of GTX 460M in SLi. GTX 485M SLi in X7200 @ something like 725/1450 will be better than having a desktop GTX 580 in your laptop. But it will cost you a fortune of course.

 

These models will be the Sager NP8150 and NP8170. To be released on the 9th at 12:01 AM

Here are some pics of the 8150 (Clevo P150HM). Will make another post on the 8170

 

Here is the 8170. (Clevo P170HM)

There is also the Sager NP8130 (Clevo P151HM1) that will be released at the same time with the other Sandy Bridge Machines. All new SB Machines will have 4 DIMM's for Ram. Finally!

 

Awesome Justin!! What will be the gpu offerings?

 

But if you wanna use DDR3 1600 MHz Ram you can only use two 2 GB SO-DIMMs, right? That's what the manual says.

 

The 8130 (P151HM1) will have the 460M. The 8150 (P150HM) will have the 460M & 485M. And the 8170 (P170HM) will have the 460M, 470M & 485M.

 

IIRC, if you install 1600mhz RAM it will work @1333 even with 2920xm.

 

Here is a bench on the 8170

 

justin,

how much would the upcharge to go to 16gb DDR3 be from the std. spec?

Jason

 

Also, what PSUs do the 8130, 8150, and 8170 use?

 

8170 = 220W
8150 = 180W
8130 = 120W

Memory Pricing will vary as some systems will come with 8GB stock while others are 4GB.

 

can i get a 8130 or 8150 with something NOT 1080p (screen's small to the point my eyes hurt from it. a 900p would RULE and keep my eyes from straining.

 

Somebody's already snuck the rigs onto their website, albeit just the pictures and a placeholder price

edit: Why does the 8170 need a 40W larger PSU if they both take the 485M and the 2920XM? The screen and extra HDD won't gobble even half of that.