Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

i7 2630QM
gtx 460m
8gb ram
15.6" 1920x1080 matte

USD 1172

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CPU Option: i7 2630QM, i7 2720QM, i7 2820QM (NOTE: IGP not available)
DISPLAY: 15.6" 16:9 wide 1920x1080 Matte
GPU Option: GTX 460m 1.5gb
RAM: up to 16gb (4 slots)
HDD: 1 slot
Ports: 1 HDMI out, 1 DVI-i out, 2 USB 3.0, 2 USB 2.0, 1 eSATA, 1 Headphone, 1 Mic, 1 S/PDIF out, 1 line-in, 1 lan port.
Slots: 3 in 1 card reader (MMC/RSMMC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
Dimension: 14.8" (w) x 10.08" (d) x 1.38~1.69" (h) 6.83lbs (3.1 kg) with battery

now to wait for reviews and more info for this small little beast

 

Just to clarify, is the 2630QM quad-core or dual-core?

 

according to this website its a quad core Review Intel Sandy Bridge Quad-Core processors - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

seems like it is taking over the 2720 as the slowest quad core. Initially i was quite confused with the naming convention too -.-

 

Wow, this sounds too good to be true. I was set on an ASUS G53, but I'll probably get this now. Good job Clevo.

 

yes much better deal given the new g53SW with sandy bridge starts around $1800 with almost identical specs.

 

Now that NDA is up see the specs in the pics below...

 

any info on their battery lifetime?

 

What we have heard is around 2-3 hours. Could be more.

 

Disappointing. The spec sheep posted by babyhemi lists a 77Wh battery. The Compal reference notebook that was in all of the Sandy Bridge reviews had a 71Wh battery, a 2820QM, a 17" display and around 7 hours of browsing the web. Thus, 2-3 hours is a pretty strong indication of a lack of switchable graphics of any kind.

 

No way I'm buying a Sandy Bridge laptop without switchable GPUs. There is no excuse with this generation.

 

I was thinking the same thing, but I don't know that you'll have much option with early releases. I'd love switchable graphics too, but I've resolved myself taht I'm not going to get it. The Toshiba Qosmio with Sandy Bridge has switchable graphics though.

Also, worth the extra $100 for no dead pixel guarantee?

 

I don't mind not having switchable graphics either, as I've heard that there are still some issues with it like not working with Punkbuster and so and so.
And I heard that the dead pixel guarantee is not really worth it, so I wouldn't get it if I were you.

 

If you are looking for better battery life and such please stand by for a few days or so for a couple more systems coming...

The Sager NP5160 and the NP5170 WILL have better battery life for one...

 

But will they contain a decently powerful GPU? I like that they put a GPU in the quad cores now, but seems very few manufacturers are making use of it coupled with a powerful dedicated GPU.

 

As the NP5160 and NP5170 are replacing the NP5135 and NP7130 respectively, I assume they will have a weak GPU like the 425m or 435m.

 

Resellers: Did they go with a Synaptics Touchpad or something else?

 

I think the 525m is a very likely candidate for the new laptops, and according to notebookcheck, it's not much of an improvement compared to 425m. I have an NP5135 arriving next week and I was thinking of returning it for a replacement. Do you think it will be worth it?

 

That's what I was afraid of. Why no GTX 460m and switchable graphics? I should have the money in my account next week. Will probably wait for the NP5160/70 announcements and then pull the trigger.

 

Oh come on...no AMD 6XXX GPU?

 

Switchable graphics will only be using mid-range discrete video cards.

The new Sager NP5160 and Sager NP5170 will be released later this week and will feature switchable graphics.

Bottom line is if you want a high end graphics card it will not come with switchable graphics for now...with no idea if switchable graphics will ever be combined with high end discrete graphics cards.

 

Thanks for the clarification. Guess I'll just have to wait for another manufacturer.

 

This probably goes for all manufactures.

 

Yes this is true. These machines are more for the gamers and those that prefer cutting edge performance, not long battery life...

 

So there's basically no point in the integrated graphics that's included in the new sandy bridge cpu for higher end cards? What a shame.

 

Do you think this will change in a few months? If not, do you know any technical thing that restricts switchable graphics on high-end laptops?

Indeed, one could go buy a i7-920XM, the prices are probably so low now. What other features are noteworthy in SB other than the useless (until now) igp.

 

I guess that makes me the only person to use a "gaming" laptop for things like browsing the internet, watching video, edit documents, etc as well as gaming.
I have a feeling I'm not really the only person who would like the prospect of being able to browse the internet for 7 hours on a single charge and have less heat to boot.

The CPU supports GPU switching, the motherboard chipset supports GPU switching, and the GTX 460m/470m/485m supports GPU switching.
The fact that 25% of the CPU die space will go wasted really irks me.

I would even be okay if they are too lazy to implement Optimus and just have static GPU switching via the bios.

 

This may be a n00b question, but how/where do they implement optimus. All the things included support optimus, what is missing to actually use it?

 

Though the motherboard chipset supports GPU switching, the motherboard itself must also be configured for GPU switching. For instance, I believe all video output must be done by the IGP. My guess is that they are running video output directly from the discrete GPU. Likewise, motherboard firmware/bios also needs to support GPU switching.

 

Yeah, I don't get it. If anything, machines with a power hungry GPU are the ones that need switching with an IGP. Just because you want a powerful laptop doesn't mean you want it to consume that power all the time. That's like buying a Corvette and not letting it run below 3000 RPM.

I would actually prefer a manual switch, even a physical switch which is on some laptops, and requires a reboot to take effect. I'd even be fine with a BIOS switch, or even a function key on bootup to enable the dedicated GPU.

 

Just in case you all missed it. The below ETA is for All Authorized Resellers..

NP8130 w/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M: In-stock now

 

Why? There is no fundamental reason why you can't have switchable graphics and a high end card -- in fact, it is possible on the desktop with some custom software/firmware. Right now, Sandy Bridge has just been released and these are among the few laptops out there that use it, but within a couple of months there should be plenty of others. I'll wait until the 6700M comes out (the 460M is not actually that good a card: among other things, it desperately needs switchable graphics).

 

My assumption was based on paladin reply. If there will be switchable graphics on a high end card, all manufactures will have it. I can't see any reason where one manufacture use it and another doesn't. Because Sager didn't implement it (for the time being) I guess other manufactures who are going to release their high end laptops soon won't implement the feature as well.

Do you think it is the same case for the laptop? I mean, if you buy a laptop now with no switchable graphics, is it only a matter of software/firmware update to implement switchable graphics?

 

No because on a desktop you can use the video output from the IGP and copy the framebuffer from the discrete GPU when needed. In a laptop the video output is hardwired to the discrete GPU. In this case, all video output must come from the discrete GPU.
This is why I didn't mind not having switchable graphics on previous generations. It would be difficult to support because not all CPUs had IGPs, namely quad cores. However, with Sandy Bridge you are guaranteed to have an IGP.

 

You could get the W860CU now for less, better price/performance ratio.
It's a pity that NP8130 doesn't support switching, at least it has a longer battery run (mine lasts max. 80min)

 

See below:

 

Does anyone have measured characteristics of the screen (gamut, contrast, brightness) for these? ...or a part number or something?

 

Wow, these are amazing.

Any chance I can get a 485m with a matte Full HD screen?..

I mean... yeah. I want a matte screen.. but I don't want to just settle for a 460m.

 

Right now, the matte display is only available on the 8130 / P150HM1 which doesn't have the 485M graphics - so unfortunately that configuration isn't available at the present.

 

Aww... Guess I might have to settle for a glossy screen..

Are the 150HM's with 485ms in stock? If I order them, about how long will they take to ship?...

 

Yes they are. Shipping is about 3 days after order the factory is saying today...

 

Great. I might look around for some other options,

but I doubt I'll be able to find anything better than this..

 

Yes, the 485M cards in the 8150 / P150HM are in stock and shipping in 2-3 days after order.

 

I hope they update this machine with nVidia 570M once it's released later "this" month.

 

Links, sources? Where'd you get this info?

 

I think he meant once this laptop is released this month.

 

My bad brah...I miss read info about desktop version of 560 and "thought" it said M at the end...but it did not so what I posted is essentially wrong. My bad...

 

I ordered one!

 

Can the GPU on NP8130 be upgraded once a better GPU comes out?

 

Yes, this is true for this model...

 

As long as it's one of the lower Watt models correct? Like <75W? Assuming that's why this one doesn't come offered with the option for GTX 485m.