**Official Clevo W350ETQ / Sager NP6350 Owner's Lounge**

**Official Clevo W350ETQ / Sager NP6350 Owner's Lounge**

A big thank you to MySN for providing me information.

// I am not sure whether the Sager is going to be called NP63 50 or not, but if I am not all wrong, their name system should make logical sense and it should be correct. This machine isn't available in the US yet. Somewhat released in EU today.

The specs are as following:

CPU

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Intel® Core™ i7-3820QM processor
(22nm, 2.70GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 8MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-3720QM processor
(22nm, 2.60GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 6MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM processor
(22nm, 2.30GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 6MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-3520M processor
(22nm, 2.90GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 4MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-3360M processor
(22nm, 2.8GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-3320M processor
(22nm, 2.60GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-3210M processor
(22nm, 2.50GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-3210M processor
(22nm, 2.50GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i3-3110M processor
(22nm, 2.40GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2860QM Processor
(32nm, 2.50GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 8MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2820QM Processor
(32nm, 2.30GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 8MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2760QM Processor
(32nm, 2.40GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 6MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM Processor
(32nm, 2.20GHz, DDR3-1600MHz, 6MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM Processor
(32nm, 2.20GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 6MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM Processor
(32nm, 2.00GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 6MB L3 cache, TDP: 45W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2640M Processor
(32nm, 2.80GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 4MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i7-2620M Processor
(32nm, 2.70GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 4MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-2540M Processor
(32nm, 2.60GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-2520M Processor
(32nm, 2.50GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-2450M processor
(32nm, 2.50GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

 Intel® Core™ i5-2430M Processor
(32nm, 2.40GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i5-2410M Processor
(32nm, 2.30GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i3-2370M processor
(32nm, 2.40GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i3-2350M Processor
(32nm, 2.30GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® Core™ i3-2330M Processor
(32nm, 2.20GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

 Intel® Core™ i3-2310M Processor
(32nm, 2.10GHz, DDR3-1333MHz, 3MB L3 cache, TDP: 35W)

Intel® HM77 Chipset

15.6” HD+ 16:9 (1600x900) LED-Backlit Display with Non-Glare Type screen (MATTE)
15.6” Full HD 16:9 (1920x1080) LED-Backlit Display with Non-Glare Type screen (MATTE)

GPU

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GPU switchable between iGPU and dGPU
nVIDIA® GeForce GTX 660M (N13E-GE)
- 2GB GDDR5 Video RAM
- Support PCIe x8
- Microsoft DirectX® 11 compatible
- nVIDIA PhysX™
- GeForce CUDA™ Technology
- nVIDIA ® Optimus 2012 Technology

Intel® HD Graphics 4000 (GPU type Depends on Processor)
- Dynamic frequency
- Intel Dynamic Video Memory Technology up to 1.7GB
- Microsoft DirectX® 11 compatible

 Intel® HD Graphics (GPU type Depends on Processor)
- Dynamic frequency
- Intel Dynamic Video Memory Technology up to 1.7GB
- Microsoft DirectX® 10 compatible

RAM

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Dual channel DDR3
Three 204 pins SODIMM sockets, support DDR3 1333/1600MHz (Real operation frequency depends on processor)
Two DIMMs per channel option is only available in 4 cores processor.
Expandable memory up to 24GB, depends on 2GB / 4GB / 8GB SODIMM module

Information

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One changeable 12.7mm(H) Super Multi / Blu-ray ODD, SATA interface

Two changeable 2.5” 9.5mm(H) SATA HDD, (RAID 0/1 support)

High Definition audio interface

S/PDIF digital output

Built-in Microphone

Built-in two speakers made by Onkyo

THX TruStudio Pro Sound System

Full size isolated keyboard with numeric pad

Three instant buttons for WLAN on/off, Mute, CCD Camera on/off

Independent GPU button, support UMA and Optimus mode

Integrated touchpad with Multi-gesture and Scrolling function

1 HDMI 1.4a output Port (with HDCP)

1 CRT output Port

1 USB 2.0 Port

2 USB 3.0 Ports

1 eSATA Port (USB 3.0 Combo)

1 Headphone Jack

1 Microphone Jack

1 S/PDIF output Jack

1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)

9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)

1 MiniCard Slot for WLAN module

Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN

1.3M pixels / 2.0M HD video camera

Sound: Realtek High Definition Audio ALC269
LAN: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
Cardreader: Realtek RTS5289 PCI-E Card Reader

Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN half mini card module or
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth™ V3.0 + HS combo half mini card module or
Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth V4.0 Combo half mini card module
Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11a/b/g/n wireless LAN half mini card module
Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless LAN half mini card module

Charger: 120W

Dimensions
374(W) x 250(D) x 16,3-42,7 (H)mm
2.7 kg, including ODD and 8-cell 76.96 WH Battery

 

So I took the liberty to show off some of MySN's pictures of the W350ETQ.. enjoy



detailed pictures are below in the spoiler

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2.7 kg for 17inch that seems very light ?. and which laptop is this on mysn.de ? i thought it was the XMG A522 (but thats a 15.6inch laptop) so i am confused

 

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I am very sorry, it is the 15" indeed. Corrected, thanks man I will rep when I can

 

no worries i just notices cause i am eyeing up an order of the 15inch W350ETQ (XMG a522 on mysn) for September.
at 2.7kg its only a .1kg heaver then Clevo W150ERQ / Sager NP6165, which i think is great weight for the power.

 

Yes indeed, and 660M has great overclock potential as well as great potential to play with the vBIOS too

And beyond all of that, if we are lucky- Prema's BIOS should work on these new W-series laptops! Crossing fingers

- btw good luck with your purchase, do make sure to post a review

 

Updated my second post.

Now includes pictures enjoy everyone

 

are you sure about the pictures? I didn't knew it had fingerprint reader....

 

Yes
10char

 

UPDATE

Notebookcheck has REVIEWED this machine, enjoys

 

If google translated the review correctly, the germans discovered that W350ETQ sucks Big time... It's good but it has to many drawbacks.

 

Didn't have time to read it before.. just read it now though

Sounds sad... such a potential it had

Poor sound
CPU Throttling -again

Just the two worst things.. oh god

 

Screen sucks and laptop itself heats up quite bad too.

 

Come on guys, a little nuance here ?

Screen racks up 84%. Black value is 0.5cd/m² and contrast is 540:1, both are good values (just check other laptop reviews on NBC). Color space coverage is good too. The review makes it sound bad because it compares it to the W370ET screen which is exceptional.

Temps were measured with an ambient temperature of 28°C, which is around 6-8°C more than you would usually get. Keep in mind that the innards are exactly the same as in the 17incher (might be thicker tough), which gets relatively good temps with an ambient temp of 24°C. And the GPU stays at 76°C under Furmark, that's pretty good.

Throttling and Turbo issues are a consequence of Clevo's bios if I'm not mistaken, and can be addressed thanks to ThrottleStop.


I'm the devil's advocate here, but seriously, it's not all gloom and doom, pretty much the opposite.
Of course, sounds still sucks, and build quality seems a bit off (first units problem ?), but hey, 84% on NBC is quite the achievement.

 

The machine doesn't suck if you look at it overall.

But it's sad to see Clevo doesn't want to improve.. still the CPU throttling and poor sound. But sure the 660M has a great potential and power.

It's quite cool too, overall a better version than the W150ER without doubt. Although this machine could be better... but there's a chance.

+ ThrottleStop
+ Prema W-series BIOS
+ Heatsinks additions
+ 660M Clevo vBIOS

And I would imagine one is good to go

 

yea are you guys out of you vulcan minds !. I read the review and and more the positive, i mean you have to
compare this to what its up against Lenovo IdeaPad Y580/Gigabyte P2542G and it got a higher score then both those.

 

Ah well, sound and laptops, that was never a love story, even if MSI and Asus are working on it. I'll keep using my headphones anyway, my Acer 4820 is also lacking in the domain.

I though about the heatsink modding, and while the GPU plate leaves little space for anything useful (and does not really need it), the CPU plate is ripe for some more copper. Look at it, it's like it's begging for more dissipators .



Also, screws tightening, foiling (Schenker seems to have picked up the trick though), and repasting.

 

Hmm yea never really did much upgrading on a laptop, and my desktop is water cooled so dont worry about it too much.

But yea adding a better heat sink could help a bit.

here is a quest do 35w processor make any difference ?(in heat)
you know like 3612QM ? (cause wont the gpu be the bottleneck in
a laptop like this anyway ?)

 

Never seen direct comparisons between the 3610 and 3612, but the 3612 runs 200MHz lower so yep, it should be better with it. It also costs 50€ more.
It should not make a big difference in games, except maybe for CPU intensive ones (BF3, Civ5, DayZ, etc...).

Another solution is to take a dualcore i5. They are rated 35W max, and run higher frequencies (2.9GHz-3.6GHz turbo). As for game perf vs # of cores, it depends on the game (BF3 likes quad cores I'm told).

 

One would be better off with a quad core since it's more future proof.

We've done a lot of 3612QM vs 3610QM comparisons on the W110ER thread.. and as far as I remember there weren't many in favor for the 3612QM for a number of reasons I cannot remember

Just not worth the extra price, and lower power and somewhat different temp.

 

yea read a bit more , seems the 3612 is just a cherry picked
3610, so wont be wasting the extra money on that.

hmm it has 3 ram slots thats weird, might email mysn
asking if the ram can be installed in the 3rd slot (the one
under the keyboard) to save me doing it.

 

Have you already ordered?

Or else, if you haven't: then you can just write it under the commentary "Anmerkungen"
- but a email or PM here on NBR should do it!

 

The traduced review has been posted:

Review-Schenker-XMG-A522-Clevo-W350ET-barebones

It's a wee bit clearer than MS/Google translator .

 

Very very nice! Thank you mate, seems like it's a decent laptop overall hehe and that 660M is quite strong too... compared to the 650M, especially if you have OC in mind

 

It might be a bit premature to ask this since this model hasn't been released yet, but I'm curious about the quality of the screens. At work, my monitor resolution is 1440 x 900, and there's plenty of on-screen real estate for my needs. That's on a 23 inch monitor, too. However, is the W350 1600 x 900 monitor going to be of lower quality than the 1920 x 1080, or will it be equivalent quality with a lower resolution? With a mediocre (with respect to enthusiast grade) GPU, I lean toward the lower resolution for game performance, as well, but not if it means a poor quality screen.

 

It shouldn't. I am not sure though.

If I were you, I would contact the reseller you ought to buy from and ask them regarding the screen quality

 

Any update on this? Xotic says they'll have it when Sager has it. I think I'm going to call RJTech tomorrow as they probably source the barebones from somewhere else.

 

Not yet no.

MySN hasn't even got them in stock yet. Waiting until they get internationally released or just hit or just hit some resellers; I'll announce it here

 

Ok, just contacted both Sager and RJTech. Sager pretty much gave me a non-answer of "check our websites for new announcements" and RJTech said somewhere around Sept. 10th (for the barebones model, I think). I think I'll be picking this notebook up... Seems pretty good from the Notebookcheck review, especially the cooling system.

 

It's supposed to be bloody brilliant! Especially with the new drivers from nVIDIA! THe 660M is a golden master of power:cash ratio

Also this machine looks beautiful to say the least... and has room for RAID 0 !

 

Okay update: https://twitter.com/SagerNotebook sager announced the machine coming ^^

 

Yes it is...

Here are some good pics...

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Here are the specs to some degree... for those in the US...

 

Thanks babyhe... oh wait Larry!! hopefully people will see the beauty of this machine

 

Its interesting to note according to the specs, the NP6165 is slightly heavier than this unit yet this one has a bigger battery pack. Head scratcher...

 

This machine looks very promising. I am definitely a fan so far, heh.

 

Yes indeed.

I might consider this myself as my M1530 is dying.. but hell, who knows

 

Up for preorder at Sager/XoticPC/RJTech (and most other resellers, probably).

 

Noob question: Why this model doesn't have more GPU options?

I'd instantly jumped into this if it comes with AMD 7970M, assuming the "Independent GPU" button works like what I thought it should i.e. no Enduro

 

The GPU is soldered onto the mobo.

 

The button simply enabled or disables Optimus, when it is off it is IGP only, and when it is on it is auto switch between IGP and the dGPU.

 

Ah... OK

So it's not like switching between IGP or dGPU like I understood...

 

Correct. No worries though, lots of people mis-understand that button.

 

Does this system have caps num and scroll lock indicators? I don't see any in the pictures.

Thanks jaug!!

 

Yes.

Right above the keyboard

 

Does this notebook support Intel Smart Response Technology?

 

I'm pretty sure it should. They are implemented in the newest Intel drivers.

You've got two HDD/SSD bays to have fun with. But don't take me for word, ask a resellers, although I'm pretty sure it should support it.

 

Intel Smart Response Technology it is enable in the BIOS. I did' t have setup yet because i assembled 1 SSD where i keep the system

 

Great to hear!

Thanks for the clarification 3ror, +1 rep

 

i run some test
3d mark 2011 Score
P2997 3DMarks
Graphics Score
2805
Physics Score
6017
Combined Score
2423 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Terrans Force W3x0ET score: P2997 3DMarks over-clock graphic card GPU 1085Mhz and 2900 memory (gpu can go higher but it is limited by MSI Afterburner).
test prime 95 3100Mhz temperature ( core 0 83 Celsius core 4 91 Celsius ambient temperature 27 celsius)
MSI Kombustor .3 temperature 74 Celsius with over clock
Prime 95 and Kombustor will throttle the CPU