*** Official Clevo W230ST/Sager NP7330 Owner's Lounge ***

nop, if you want 2 or 3 disks, you need to buy mSATA disks and the evo ain't one.

 

It's not so simple when I'm living in Colombia indefinitely Could you link me to somewhere I can purchase the correct screen?? Thanks.

 

There is only 1 hard drive bay so you cant have the hybrid and SSD in there. You can add up to 2 mSATA drives and have 1 2.5" drive.

 

Can anyone here please check the keyboard when they have the time? I would like to know where exactly the LEDs are and how they are connected etc. If it is suitable I think just insert a coloured plastic film between the LEDs and the keyboard would be the easiest way to go for changing backlit colour

EDIT: nevermind, I found that buyer's blog on a Chinese modding site. http://nbbbs.zol.com.cn/43/1191_429495.html

 

Got my W230ST on monday, awesome little monster
The 4800MQ runs at -75mV with a 35x multiplier at 3/4 cores and the GTX765m runs at +100/+500 MHz, and the temps are about 90°C CPU and 73°C GPU after 30 mins Assassin's Creed IV at 1080p and high/normal settings

Is that comparable? It's sitting on my old Microsoft Notebook Base with the fan turned off.

 

My temps after playing BF4 for 1 hour are 73 for the CPU and 59 for the GPU. GPU is slightly overclocked at 135 core / 350 memory. I have the 4700 MQ. With undervolting using XTU temp goes down to 70. I think the cooling of this laptop is very good.

 

On the internet ? I believe it's not tied to a country no more
ebay, amazon, country shops, I assume all those deliver in columbia no ?

 

Added latest stock BIOS & EC for this model to my blog (follow my signature)!

ENJOY!

 

Hey Prema, do you have any info about what's been changed for this?

Also, any thoughts on why my system would ramp the fan all the way up at idle and the temp sensor beep would go off? I didn't have any programs running and I'm on 1.1 of your mod.

 

Serious? Nobody has got that kind of temps here right? You using cooler?

 

From the changelog:

Whatever that means...I don't use Stock

I don't know what caused the thermal alarm on your system, maybe one heatsink has not enough contact to transfer the heat...

 

Yes actually I am using a notebook cooler (thermaltake X4). I will try without the cooler and will post the results with screenshots. I dont think the cooler will make much of a difference, anyways I will put it to the test and let you know.

 

Yes actually I am using a notebook cooler (thermaltake X4). I will try without the cooler and will post the results with screenshots. I dont think the cooler will make much of a difference, anyways I will put it to the test and let you know.

 

those temps are indeed very low, I easily hit 95+ when playing BF4 @3.2ghz for a long time.
how did you get the temp, by logging while playing, or do you shut off BF4, then run your temp monitoring tool to check ?
because the cpu can cool itself very (very) fast.

 

Your last version works really well, now I'm reluctant to update. Did you finetune anything on top yourself? What would be the benefit of updating besides the mysterious POST issue?

By the way, I wanted to ask what laptop do you actually use yourself day to day? You pretty much release updates to a bunch of them, I can't imagine you testing everything on your own between 15 laptops.

I play probably a bit less demanding Far Cry 3 atm, GPU OCed. Maxtemps with cooler 68C GPU, 78C CPU. Without cooler 71C GPU, 81C CPU. Using NotePal U3, could probably arrange fans a bit better.

 

I would use the Mod, no need to update to that stock unless you have that post hanging issue or want stock for whatever reason...

I have a P170HM3 with K5000M and XM chip as my Workstation and a W230ST for daily stuff. My better half uses a W110ER.

I was also entrusted with a tortured P150EM for intensive BIOS dev work...and then we have the grand daddy, a M570U which needs a battery and right hinge replacement. If I ever happen to find those parts cheap...

 

Seems I ran into a small problem, my wifi is somehow not on after booting...
There is a small red circle with a red x in it on the wifi symbol in the task bar and if I click on it the sidebar tells me "Wi-Fi (Off)".
It turns on after I change the mode in the Clevo Controlcenter to anything but the current mode.

Has anyone else had this before? (Win 8 Pro, Intel AC-7260 card, drivers from DVD)

 

Check the bios for a switch or reset your EC by removing the battery and AC.

 

just got this little beast a couple of days ago and i love it, other than the fact that both cpu and gpu hit 100 degrees and start throttling in the middle of playing simcity

 

the cpu needs a repaste, but you may have a bad contact between gpu & heatsink, it should never go >90°

 

Hey all,

I'm having a problem here, I bought a new HDMI monitor so I could have a nice, big display when I'm at home but when I plug it in, windows detects it and the monitor just starts blinking black and on with a "HDMI not connected" box in the middle. I tried updating all of my drivers to the newest versions and nothing. I also checked the cable and monitor by plugging them into my little netbook and everything worked perfectly. I went to Sager and installed both the Intel and Nvidia drivers listed there and nothing, still got a blinking screen ... ugh this is annoying.. Does anyone know of any other tricks to try?

 

Interesting problem, sounds kinda like what my Dell monitor does sometimes. There is a glitch where it can't pick up the input sometimes and does that. In my case I find changing the input over to a different source and back fixes it 90% of the time.

Two questions I have at what spec of hdmi does the monitor support and what spec of hdmi is the cable rated for? Might be something to do with the signal, not sure, as unless you have another cable to test it can't rule it out.

*My thought is the Laptop and monitor are rated at hdmi spec 1.4, and the cable isn't causing signal sync problems.*

 

Do you happen to have a computer hooked up via VGA still? It will only support one of those at a time.

 

During playing BF4 HWMonitor is on. I have tested the machine with and without the cooler.
The results after 1 hour of gameplay are as follows :

With cooler on CPU is 73, GPU is 59
With cooler off CPU is 83 max, GPU is 63 Max

 

Thanks a lot for posting your temps!
Wow that is so low compared to others temps with CPU >90 and GPU >80...

 

Have you repasted?

 

Do you live in artic ?

Flat on a table, or is it propped up ?
Is it running @3.2ghz, and do you undervolt ?

 

I'm beginning to think it is the cable compatibility with the particular monitor/ laptop combo. The cable has a source end and a output end so it's a one way only. Here are the links to both the items if they will show up. I'll go grab another cable from a store around town and see if it works though neither items gives a version of HDMI that they conform too.

Rosewill RCHD-12003 10 ft. Ultra Slim HDMI Cable w/ RedMere Technology - Newegg.com

ASUS VE247H Black 23.6" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 300 cd/m2 10,000,000:1 (ASCR) - Newegg.com

 

Reading back a few pages, i found that when the machine is tilted (when laying in bed and you hold it against your legs at an angle), the heatpipe design fails to dissipate the heat. (cold air from the fan at full blast is the sole indicator here).

Sure enough i tried that and the air was hot when on a flat surface and cold about 10 seconds after tilting it anything over 30ish degrees...

Will report actual results later

 

No repaste has been done yet (no need to). The machine is propped up slightly (20 degrees). Room temperature is 22 degrees. I have undervolted with XTU -80mV and lowered the multiplier of the 3rd and 4th core to x30. I believe 3GHZ is fine for gaming. Also I have overclocked GPU +135 / +350. Above 130 core you need to overvolt a bit as it crashes, therefore i have overvolted to +18mv in nVidia Inspector to preserve the core +135. GPU ram is not possible to be overvolted. I wish there would be a way as I am stuck to +350. Any ideas?

 

I'm no expert but that cable sounds super sketchy -- I've never heard of a "one way" HDMI cable. Maybe it's a totally legit new thing, but I'd definitely try a "plain" cable first to rule out problems with that fancy one.

 

Quick question: I can buy 1866 RAM modules for this computer and they'll run at max speed? I have my eye on getting 16GB of RAM in a 8x2 configuration and 1866 speeds are available now.

 

I dunno, I'm stable at +130Mhz and +560Mhz vRAM without overvolting. +135-140Mhz works fine in most games, but Unigine Heaven crashes. My Nvidia inspector only allows steps of +12.5/+25 mV, how did you select +18? What version do you use?

I also run -80mV and x28 modifiers with 3-4 core active. My temps are not nearly as good though especially for GPU, I posted them above. Maybe overvolt drops GPU operating temps? Yours runs as cold as ice, so grats. Also your cooler does a stellar job for CPU, 10C degree drop is amazing. Could you post a link to it?

 

Sorry my overvolt is at +31.3 mv and not +18 mv as in previous post. sorry
Which NVidia driver are you using? For some reason I am stuck at +350 GPU ram. Maybe you can help me out.

The link for the cooler is Thermaltake - U.S.A. - Massive 14 X - CLN0023

 

I'm using 331.82 WHQL the latest official NVIDIA driver. I use MSI Afterburner to Overclock, beta 17 I think available on Guru3D website.

I think that Cooler is not sold in US, a shame. Does it get really loud?

Thermaltake - U.S.A. - Massive 14² - CL-N001-PL14BU-A this one looks ok I guess, but it seems to have less space for airflow under it even though it claims to have more CFM in specs.

 

Maybe my old driver cannot handle the overclock, probably a driver issue after all. Maybe I will switch into the new driver.
The cooler is as quiet as a cat.

Temps after half hour of BF4

 

I'm not sure but maybe your vCore is stuck and mine isn't because I use a modified BIOS by Prema, however I'm not 100% positive on that. Here is Inspector: my voltage step ups are 12.5/25mV




I just got top 35 score in 3DMark11 with our combination of CPU/GPU, score in signature. Top 10 among W230ST (other 25 are Alienware). I was using +135Mhz Core and +560Mhz vRAM with max X34 modifiers on CPU. Just having fun testing, I'll still go with X28 for regular use with 125/560.

 

Amazing. How many fps are you getting in BF4 and what are the settings?

 

I don't have BF4. I could test with Bioshock Infinite Benchmark or Shogun 2 Benchmark. I also have Far Cry 3 and Witcher 2 among more or less recent games. I try to set them up to play at 40+ FPS.

Like I said synthetic benchmarks are just for fun and bragging rights. I'm sure we all get similar FPS in actual games with a tiny variation based on OC settings. If you get a score of 4800 or so when OCed, I doubt you would notice a difference. I don't like to push my laptop to the brink in regular tasks and would rather have great temps and smooth experience.

 

Quote by the All-Powerful HTWingnut (may his reviews keep flowing forever):

 

It's legit. HDMI cables with RedMere (sold by MonoPrice) are uni-directional.

They use controller chips embedded into the HDMI cable tips, and draw less power than standard HDMI cables. The drawback is they are uni-directional, where one end is the Source and one is the Output. The benefit is that the HDMI cables that use RedMere can be constructed much thinner than standard HDMI cables.

 

For anyone interested, I installed the newest driver from Intel's download center and the problem seems to be gone

 

So I played a little BF4 with my regular GPU +125/560 OC, CPU X28 multiplier. Did the entire initial intro sequence.

Settings: Texture ultra, everything else High, HBAO. With MSAA off I get around 40 FPS in most combat scenes, sometimes in some set pieces it drops to as low as 28 and goes up to 55. With 2xMSAA I get stable 30FPS most of the time, which is a bit too low for my liking. CPU got to 84C with cooler

Update: with a little better positioning of fans on the cooler, I redid the test and the temps reached the max of 82C CPU, 69C GPU, so a bit of improvement.

 

I will install the modified Prema Bios and will give it a try. I will post findings soon.

 

I went and got a standard HDMI cable and it works perfectly now. The RemMere cable must do something that throws the laptops off.

 

Guys does any1 else have this issue it used to happen randomly but now its happening more often and it happens mainly when i am playing bf4, there is this constant double beep, very annoying i might add... Any solutions

 

That beeping you're hearing is the thermal alarm. The CPU is being throttled because it's getting too hot.

Try undervolting or underclocking while playing BF4. That should drop your temps some.

 

Frewster that cant be right because i have undervolt on -77 an my temps have always been below 90c i always monitor them when gaming, can it still throttle......

then again the multipliers are 34-31-28-28 is this ok

 

Those sound OK. Maybe lower it to 26 in four cores. I've always understood that the beeps are an overtemp alarm... perhaps someone else knows otherwise. It shouldn't throttle below ~95 on the CPU.

 

Sounds like a BIOS related issue, I would try to update it first.
If the issue persist, I'd try the cpu on another laptop, or send it (the whole laptop) back for repair.