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Hmm, I tried experimenting with -100mv and it worked well for a few hours (with an hour of Prime95 too). At some point though it froze and I had to reboot, pity

Hate to ask, anyone know of any solutions for the above issues?

 

That really holds true more for higher end desktop components. Plus I could best that desktop price by probably another $100 or so without trying too hard, and its debatable whether you include the cost of an LCD in the price of a desktop because usually people have an LCD monitor. Although $10 for keyboard and mouse is running pretty cheap, lol. At least for a decent one will cost $50 for the combo. Laptops are definitely more affordable though and with pretty significantly powerful components.

 

Thanks for that, just wish I could play BF4, Ive got the loading bug where it locks, right pita. Re-installation of the game doesnt help and neither has repairing/re installing the runtimes and directx components...

 

My BF4 runs pretty well.. I rarely crash and it actually runs a lot more reliable on my laptop than my desktop! The only gripe is the sort of illusion of low fps when its actually 50+ fps, but I only get it on some maps.. most run fine. Still cant waot for a patch though!

 

In the CPU core manager, I unparked the only 3 cores available (value 0, value 1, and value 2).

However, in resource monitor it says cores 1, 3, 5 and 6 are parked.

?

 

have you tried updating Nvidia drivers mate?

 

I just ran with MX-4 for a few days, well actually ran for a couple days, repasted, then checked temps again and I am strongly favoring IC Diamond. BF4 CPU temps with IC Diamond are sitting at 92C peak, occasionally as high as 94C. With MX-4 it runs 98-99C within ten minutes of playing, tested with two repastes.

 

I'll have to pick some of this up soon. I've also been getting really high temps with MX-4. It's strange since people speak so highly of it...

 

Yeah i thought my temps were better but after a couple of hours i still hit 99 C :L nevermind! But thank you I shall order some diamond. IC Diamond 24 i'm assuming?

 

7 and 24 only differ in amount (it's the number of carats of micronised diamond in the tube I think).

 

I have indeed, however think that I might of got it working again.

I had reinstalled it a couple of times with no joy from the retail media. Instead I tried downloading and installing it through the Origin client and now it seems to be behaving. Very odd!

 

Hey! Sorry for my bad english

first i want to tell that my CPU is the 4702MQ. Its at stock setting, and undervolted -80mv. I found that -80mv is totally stable for me using Intel XTU.

Today i just repasted my clevo w230st! The reason why i made the decision to repaste was because, my CPU temps were hitting 96-99 degrees. My 765m were up 80+. So year! i ordered some artic silver 5 paste. And some ArtiClean. After i was done repasting i've got some amazing results.

Before repasting when i was playing Counter strike global offensive i was hitting sometimes 99 degrees!!
Now it don't come over 80 degrees.

my temps when running Prime95 large fft's is not passing 70! so nice!
my idle tempetures went from 55-60 to 42-50!!

The artic silver 5 really does a great job man! awesome stuff.

 

All I know is it's the size of the tube IC Diamond 7 is 1.5g and IC Diamond 24 is 4.8g.

 

I cant for the life of me download Sound Blaster Cinema AP (1.00.03) for Windows 8.1 (it keeps failing around 16MB in) anyone have this file? care to upload it?

never mind, I finally got it to work (20th try)

 

Just got mine today. I repasted it with IC diamond myself, waiting to play some BF3 to test how well I did because I did not know how to view the temps during 3DMARK(scored 2579 on Fire Strike).
One problem(maybe) that I have noticed is I will here a clicking or chirping sound come from the front right of the laptop occasionally, maybe every few hours. I think this is either coming from the HDD or the 240GB crucial SSD.
Idle temp hangs between 48C-602C, mostly around 60C while I am downloading, the fan doesn't kick into full power unless I am gaming. If I use the hotkey and turn the fan on high the temp quickly goes down to 48C-50C.
How do my Idle temps and 3Dmark scores stack up to other owners'?

 

So while I'm waiting on my order, I'd like to get myself prepared to get some work done. I got 4700MQ CPU and upgraded Wifi card with most of other options stock. Thanks to HTWingnut for informative videos.

I'm looking to buy 120-128GB mSata SSD, I've heard good things about Plextor M5M and that's what I plan to buy for now. Are they all pretty much identical in performance?

How easy is it to remove the heatsink? Is it just several screws under the cover or there is more to it? I already have IC Diamond paste leftovers used for my desktop, and I've ordered 99% Isopropyl Alcohol to clean off the stock paste. I hope that does the trick.

Is there a point to flash the Bios with Prema's mod? What are the real benefits?

There were suggestions on altering Windows Power Options CPU usage. Should I try to do that along with XTU/Throttlestop or only one of them? What are the general differences between those two methods? Does anyone actually undervolt and overclock CPU at the same time?

I'll be installing Windows 7 on my machine. Does everyone use drivers from Sager website for it except for Nvidia ones for GTX 765M? Or should I look in some other places for specific drivers?

 

Guys, for the Prema mod BIOS, will it work with any Clevo W230ST? Since I will be buying from overseas and AFAIK the Clevo is sold as Hasee, and I think they use their own modded BIOS. If I were to install this Prema mod or any other BIOS, will it brick the laptop or it should be fine?

If it is, which BIOS currently is the most stable and addresses the fan issues? The Prema one or some other?

Thanks

 

none, fan issue still to be addressed, and yes you can flash prema's mod, not sure if you can come back to your hasee's bios afterwards though, but I assume it's possible.

 

Thanks for that, I dont mind not being able to come back.

So the prevalent BIOS that the owners in this thread are using I guess is Prema's on this site W230ST / NP7330 | Prema Mod ?

 

yep, or the stock one.
fan is acting weird on my laptop, sometimes it's ok (either off or constant), sometimes it's gently "pulsing" every 3 seconds or so on low rotations even if it's idling.
sometimes it's bursting without a valid reason. I wonder if it's really better with the updated EC....

 

Thanks for the clarification.

Damn, seems like the fan issue is bigger than I thought. And I suppose softwares wont be able to control the fan profiles as it is controlled by BIOS? Im a total noob in terms of modding but it Looks we need some talented person to open up that stock BIOS and completely rework the fan profiles.

 

prema's already looking into it I think.
but I assume our best bet is that clevo finally solves that issue.

 

Ive ordered some IC Diamond.. never used it before, whats the best application method?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ger-np7330-owners-lounge-157.html#post9339630

 

Yes of course, best case scenario Clevo resolves all the issues officially.

 

Re-paste your CPU and the fan intermittent bursts will disappear when you're doing your daily light tasks (like browsing or watching movies). CPU temps have to be over 65~70 so the fan starts to kick off, under those temps, it remains off (and the machine is dead silent)
Nothing wrong with the EC.
Make sure your GPU is not activated by some random apps, as turning it on will also automatically switch on the fan.

 

You know that some people don't use their +1k$ laptop to just browse or watch movies right ?
And even when I browse, believe me it's not light at all.

Point is, it's already re-pasted, that won't change the fact that the fan is often on even when under 65° (not always ok), and when between 65 and 75° but not fully loaded it is ridiculously loud.
You may not have used good laptops before, but the EC has many room for improvements, it doesn't NEED to do that.
Check out the w110er for instance, clevo took at least 3 or 4 months to get it right.

 

This app only shows two cores...

 

I was just giving my input, doing light tasks shouldnt activate the fan at all.

Don't forget to undervolt the CPU and currently, watchn a streaming in a room ambient temp of 23 degrees, and totally flat on a table, I report temps from 48 to 58 (yeah I should really re-re-paste that) which do not cause the fan to kick off.

Are you running the EC from Prema's unlocked package ? I am.

edit: Clevo could certainly make the fan ramp up slowly rather than making it kicking like crazy, I agree. The only way not to hear the fan constantly is to do further efforts, which should not be needed, that's correct.

 

So could someone please answer the questions from this post of mine please?

 

Under volting and over clocking can be combined. The key is to only give your CPU enough voltage so it can run 100% reliably when stress testing. All CPUs are unique so the only way to find out how much voltage your CPU needs is to do some hands on testing. The less voltage your CPU needs, the less power consumption and heat it will produce so fine tuning your CPU with less voltage is always a good idea.

 

What are the final battery life numbers after all the overclocking/undervolting of the cpu/gpu? Did premas bios mod help at all? Did anyone find a way to get this thing to like four and a half hours of internet/work use on power saver mode with lowered screen brightness and keyboard backlight off?

Also can someone very quickly summarize ALL the cpu/gpu/bios modifications that have been recommended for better performance? And any respective download links? Along with the download links for drivers for the whole system?

Sorry, it's just that this forum is a huge mess of information and it would be nice to have it all laid out neatly in a single post.

 

Don't yours activate at times even under 65° ?

Yep. I even think it was better before, with .03 bios & EC :-/

 

Here is the link to the drivers. I believe some people were using newer versions of Nvidia Drivers for GTX 765M, check Nvidia's website. Here is the link to Prema's Bios Mod For W230ST.

HTWingnut posted some videos on undervolting and windows power options. Most people seem to use XTU (link). Remember that HTWingnut has 4800MQ, so you can't just copy his numbers. You have to stress test your cpu on your own. A lot of 4700MQ users report a sweet spot around -80mV, but like the video suggests start at -50mV and just keep going down while remaining stable.

I've read of a stable GPU overclock with +125 MHz on Core clock and +560 MHz on Vram.

 

Since I installed the new audio driver I have very low volume.
Tried re-installing SB cinema but nothing more....
I'll try to rollback audio driver now, but if anyone has a better idea, I'd be glad to hear it !

 

Plextor M5M is also what I will be getting. It seems to have really good read performance and reliability. The IOPS is really high as well.

I think HTWingNut has a video tutorial on opening the cover. Basically there is just a few screws and you just flip the cover to the right and it opens up, really simple. After that there are 7 screws to remove the heatsink.

 

It does not. I used to use the old EC and it was about the same thing, Prema left them untouched.

My results concurr: -100mV on the 4700mq, +125/+600mhz on the 765M, and I report an average battery life of 3 hours and half with the following settings: lowest brightness, backlighting and BT off, power saver mode, browsing and watching streaming.
Not that great, not that bad I shall say.

 

ok im rather defeated. I haven't properly owned an NVidia card since quadro fx 770m. here after owning an amd chip. im back of course with NVidia. and now thing aren't straight forward. im on windows 8.1 and I cannot for love of anything figure out how to install NVidia drivers. but I could on windows 7.
just says cant detect hardware. what shall I do then guys. thanks

 

Here: Drivers | GeForce

 

thanks for reply. still same thing. cannot install, it cant detect it. it wont install with or without intel 4600 drivers installed. what shall I do?

 

Make sure you properly installed the chipset drivers.

 

to no avail. I restored the system as it was last night I did a fresh install of windows 8.1 and using the disk which is windows 8 required unless you unpack the files manually. drivers still made no difference.

ht wingnut has got his windows 8 running perfect so I wonder what drivers and how he went through all of this the pro lol.

only thing I can think of is reinstall windows 7. and then upgrade with drivers installed already...

 

I for one just installed win 8.1, then nVidia drivers from their website, no problem.
Upgraded same thing. But I've seen this problem on this board many times before, can't remember what solved it though, you should search a bit.
You may wanna try reboot & install right after, or even flash your bios with prema mod.. Since it also flashes vBios, may do the job.

 

I've used all the stock Win 8 (not 8.1) drivers from Sager except I did download the latest Intel and nVidia video drivers.

 

Thanks for the input guys. unfortunately gone the windows 7 to upgrade route. however on windows 8.1 from clean install. nothing was going right for me. but as nikita made me think. maybe its the bios updates that fixes this. i still am on original bios but all you guys has updated and no problems. only thing i can think of. if going to windows 8 dont work. lol wingnut. im loking t you to help me flash it.
let you guys know tomorrow.

 

Check out my tutorial I linked to a page or two ago for how to flash the BIOs if it comes to that.

 

Alright, I've set my settings to the following, let's see if I save some battery life! (i7 4700MQ)


Also, has anyone else has had the following issues:
Intel 7260 AC wireless slowing down over time.
LAN device being dodgy: Sometimes when I use the Ethernet port I have to power off and power back on for Windows to even see it.
Prema's BIOS mod setting the UEFI resolution to 800x600, I swear it used to run at the native 1080p.

 

Newbz You want battery life, do some profile for on battery.

It works completly stable for me, left prime running for 1-2 Hours. BUT it's limited to battery usage. The second I plug in the power cable, it freezes and restarts.
It's enough for my university-usage, browsing, some smaller eclipse java stuff, running a small debian VM time and again, some smaller steam games to waste time.

 

Hi guys,

we continued our efforts to deliver EC updates for Clevo machines with improved fan control. Today we give you the most current EC with Win 8.1 support and our improved fan table for the following model:
- XMG P303 (W230ST)

Our improved EC is known to eliminate the "sudden burst" many customers experienced when running day-to-day tasks with medium load. We tried to create a smoother fan curve so the fan behaviour gets less annoying.
We would like to have your feedback on this EC. You can safely flash our EC to your machine (no matter what reseller), provided you indeed have a W230ST. You don't need a special BIOS for this to work - just flashing the EC will do the trick!

Download link:
http://mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_P303/BIOS/XMG_P303_EC_1.03.02TR.zip

Disclaimer: please note - this EC works only with the Clevo W230ST. Do not use this EC with any other model! Please consider the common pre-cautions when doing EC and BIOS updates. We cannot be held responsible if anything goes wrong.

We appreciate your feedback!

 

Could this be the EC we have been waiting for!? Anybody keen for some testing?