I installed the touchpad driver (Synaptics) from Sager and with its utility (usually in tray), you can enable two-finger scrolling, hot spots and other actions. It was clunky at first but this is what I did to get a macbook feel: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=9716018
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Is anybody else getting their core throttled by 200mhz for heavy AVX workloads? My 4710MQ can't run Prime 95 AVX at 3.3Ghz all cores (it sticks to 3.1ghz though strangely will increase by +200mhz when I overclock the core by said amount). TDP is set to 100W and TDC is set to 100A. Temperatures hover around 80-85 at the most. -
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At least I only paid $35 for the 4810mq upgrade. If I paid the full $135 I would be a lot more upset since it really runs no faster than you're getting with your 4710mq. -
What is your turbo boost time set to?
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Alright guys, sh*t got real today. Despite the cooling in this laptop, I successfully managed to get the laptop to shut down by overheating the CPU/GPU - I don't know which. Lesson learnt: running X-Plane at medium-high settings on the bed is not a good idea.
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And isn't 3 GHz actually an overclock for the 4710MQ? With a -50mV and +0.5Ghz your power consumption would be some 4W higher (depending on core design voltage). Unless you referred to TDP up, of course. -
Hi guys! Quick question. Has anyone found the "Headphone Direct" setting in the new version of control center? It seems to be missing. Or maybe tested to see if the new version still fixes the headphone sleep problem?
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Does anyone know what make the stock hard drives are that ship with the machine? I'm looking on the Xotic PC site and they're just stating like RPM, SATA revision, and capacity
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Just to let you know In the end the guys at Xotic could not give me the old price for the 4810mq,
However after talking to Sager I was able to get the old price from them, and to my surprise i didn't have to pay for an Operating system, so I got just what I wanted!
NP7338 Display
13.3" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Wide Viewing Angle in Matte Finished Surface (1920 x 1080)
Video & Graphics Card
Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M GPU with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory
CPU Processor
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4810MQ Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.80GHz) - Special Upgrade Promotion Offer! [$35.00]
Thermal Compound
Stock Standard Thermal Compound
Operating System
No OS
Memory
16GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 2 X 8GB [$90.00]
mSATA SSD RAID Storage Options Info
Non-RAID Storage
mSATA SSD Drive Slot 1
250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA3 SSD - as an OS Drive (Primary Drive C) [$200.00]
Hard Disk Drive 1
1TB 5400rpm SATA3 Hybrid Hard Drive with 8GB SSD [$70.00]
Wireless Network Card
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module [$35.00]
Primary Battery
Smart Li-ION Battery Pack (6 Cells)
Microsoft Office
Microsoft Office 2013 Trial - Included in Price
Warranty
Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty
Is there any thing I need to know about drivers issues or anything else??
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Yeah I understand, But from my short experience its best if I talk for my self,
maybe its nice if they take it and get it back but I live out side of the US any way, So any RMA I'm going to do will be 100% me and sager any way.deadsmiley likes this. -
Received my NP7338 a little while ago, loving the size and build quality. Getting ready to install windows and drivers, etc. Just threw in a 250gb Samsung 840 evo as my OS drive.
Although, Xoticpc screwed me over on the free Watch Dogs game. I ordered the system on July 18th while the promotion was valid, my order details even state I should be receiving the game too. But apparently the promotion was only valid till July 31st, and because I received my laptop today, August 1st, the promotion has ended and I wont be getting my free copy of the game because they don't email out the download codes until the laptops are delivered. All of which I was never told until now. -
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The free game played a significant part in my decision to jump on the laptop and place the order when I did, and I was under the impression I was going to receive the game up until now since the promotion WAS VALID WHEN I ORDERED...don't get me wrong, the laptop is a sweet piece of machinery, but I can't help but feel disappointed with not receiving the game. -
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Another thing to check; <abbr title="if I recall correctly">iirc</abbr>, using <abbr title="Integrated Electronics">Intel</abbr>'s <abbr title="Extreme Tuning Utility">XTU</abbr> disables the <abbr title="Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework">DPTF</abbr> driver, losing <abbr title="configurable Thermal Design Power">cTDP</abbr> and <abbr title="Low-Power Mode">LPM</abbr> ability. You might want to try different Power Limits and see which option has better results.
Mobile 4th Generation Intel® CoreProcessor Family (page 70-73)
[SUB] ("<abbr title="abbreviation">abbr</abbr>" is an abbreviation for abbreviation ... GEB-ish, no?)[/SUB]
If by "extra power connector" you mean the one visible in the pic.; think that's the camera/ccd cable. Or did you mean there's an additional splitoff from the lcd cable? -
I have just purchased an NP7338. My laptop came with only one hard drive. (Non-SSD).
I would like to install a second SSD drive. Are there any diagrams, tutorials, or schematics available which might show one how to disassemble or repair an NP7338?
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The W230ss has a 62.16 Wh battery, and only gets 4 hours of video and WiFi usage on battery. Maybe an extra 30 minute from an SSD and CPU undervolt.
Yet there are ultrabooks and business laptops (with a dedicated GPU) that get 5-7 hours of video and/or WiFi with a 48-60 Wh battery.
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Made my order with Hidevolution about 12 days ago. Status says "In Production" still. I emailed last week and was told they'd ship the next day. But nothing. What have your experiences been?
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Yes but they can do other things like tune the power delivery system to a lower envelope.
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On another note, I downloaded the touchpad drivers from the Sager website, and I'm having a bit of an issue with two finger scrolling. It seems to be juttering and stopping, it's not a smooth scrolling action. Could someone help me out with some setting I can tweak to fix this, or is there an alternate/updated version of the driver I can try? -
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, got carried away with the html {abbr} tag. Notice the dotted underlining; when you hover over them with the mouse you'll see what the abbreviations stand for.
Not sure why XTU doesn't allow underclocking, though the M series are 'locked', so perhaps all changes apply to Turbo only? Regardless, please try this experiment; disable XTU and use the DPTF driver instead. You should then have different Power Modes available in 'Control Panel > Power Options' ( with XTU these are greyed-out). First check whether you actually have the driver installed, it ought to be, but to be certain look for 'dptf***.dll's, there should be several (and/or look in 'Services'). The cTDP won't do much (there's no TDP-down in the M series), but using the LPM options might yield better results than XTU's undervolt and a lower Turbo clock.
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Thinking about buying this laptop. Have to wait untill Newegg authorizes the refund of my Asus N550JK. Only problem being is no Canadian retailer caries the laptop. Can you guys recommend buying from Xotic PC if your located out of the states? The 15 day return policy makes me a bit uneasy.
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More background (skippable):
- Intel Dyanmic Platform and Thermal Framework (DPTF) (sic, even the url is misspelled, perhaps someone ought to tell them ...)
- Embedded Power Management Features of Intel Architecture (video)
- The System Power States referenced above (or Wiki)
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Do I need to download one of the drivers from the following list? If so, which one:
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For anyone interested, VRAM is
Samsung
k4g20325fd-fc03
1.5V, binned for 6000mhz. I'm surprised so few people can reach 6000mhz on their VRAM OCs.
Spec sheet http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/file/product/graphic_product_guide_nov_12-0.pdf
Also on that spec sheet, if anyone cares, to answer an oft debated issue, there's a difference between gDDR3 (modern units) and GDDR3 (based on DDR2).
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how goes the mac installaiton of the w230?
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