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    *** Official Clevo P970Ex Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Where to buy:

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    Specifications:

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    17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) 144Hz 7ms, 72% NTSC Wide View Angle, Matte Display

    Video Graphics & Memory

    NVIDIA GeForce® RTX 2060 w/ 6GB GDDR6

    Processor Support and
    Heat Management

    Intel® 8th Generation Coffee Lake Core™ i7-8750H 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 2.2 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.1 GHz), 9MB Smart Cache

    Operating System
    No Operating System Installed

    Chipset N/A - more info coming soon
    System Memory (RAM)
    8GB DDR4/2666MHz (1x 8GB)

    Expandable to 64GB DUAL CHANNEL DDR4/2666MHz

    Hard Drive
    1TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

    Optical Drive
    None

    Card Reader N/A - more info coming soon
    Video Camera Built-in 1.0M FHD Video Camera
    LAN/WLAN Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN (Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2)

    Input/Output
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    Audio
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    Keyboard and Touchpad
    Gamma Secure Pad, Full Color Backlit Keyboard

    Battery N/A - more info coming soon
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    Dimension & Weight
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    Video Graphics & Memory

    NVIDIA GeForce® RTX 2070 w/ 8GB GDDR6

    Processor Support and
    Heat Management

    Intel® 8th Generation Coffee Lake Core™ i7-8750H 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 2.2 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.1 GHz), 9MB Smart Cache

    Operating System
    No Operating System Installed

    Chipset N/A - more info coming soon
    System Memory (RAM)
    8GB DDR4/2666MHz (1x 8GB)

    Expandable to 64GB DUAL CHANNEL DDR4/2666MHz

    Hard Drive
    1TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive

    Optical Drive
    None


    Card Reader N/A - more info coming soon
    Video Camera Built-in 1.0M FHD Video Camera
    LAN/WLAN Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN (Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2)

    Input/Output
    N/A - more info coming soon

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    N/A - more info coming soon

    Keyboard and Touchpad
    Gamma Secure Pad, Full Color Backlit Keyboard

    Battery N/A - more info coming soon
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    N/A - more info coming soon

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  3. POKEE

    POKEE Notebook Enthusiast

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    5400 RPM ??? who is putting this in new devices these days ???
    its low move from them...just to get rid from the old stock
     
  4. doofus99

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    If I remember correctly 5400rpm are more resilient to knocks, 7200rpm are more sensitive and the 10000rpm used to break if you looked at them sideways.
     
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    This is the old P870 fitted with the RTX2080? Does it take two GPUs? Has anyone here got it already?
     
  6. POKEE

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    the point is most of us putting the games in our HDD....and with 5400RPM HDDs actually can be too slow for games sometimes, and can cause stuttering from not being able to load content fast enough
     
  7. Arondel

    Arondel Notebook Evangelist

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    As per @bennyg's post:
    The P97x is a 17.3" narrow bezel "thin and light" design. It uses one GPU and will almost surely won't have the performance potential of a P870 chassis. Taken from Notebookcheck's article:
     
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  9. Meaker@Sager

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    Quieter, less power consuming too, if it's just some mass storage then it can be better.
     
  10. doofus99

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    Is the P97x the old P775 then ?
     
  11. Arondel

    Arondel Notebook Evangelist

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    Um... not likely. The P97x is a thin and light with a BGA CPU and probably Max Q GPUs in the highest tier. The P775 is almost double the height, has an upgradable CPU and uses standard GPUs. They are different product lines aimed at different markets
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes up to 8 cores in the P775 but P97x systems will be up to the mobile 6 core.
     
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    It does not sound like there is a higher than 1080p screen on the P97x. Can anyone confirm? Would only get a 3k / 4k.
     
  14. POKEE

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    you really dont need it....specially for 15 inch display...better to choose Hrz over resolution
    i have 4k before ...and u will suffer from scaling specially most apps and need lens for that
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Currently the 1080p screens offer a good balance of gaming performance and clarity.
     
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    As you say, for gaming. My needs are gaming + business. And my business is graphics/maps/GIS so need more screen real estate. And the the thin/light weight/mobility/battery longevity. People like us are happy to sacrifice the Hz for the Rez! Unless they are hard core gamers + workers.
     
  17. doofus99

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    FHD panels should be found only in museums or inside cereal packs... Seriously, I was using a 17" FHD, TN panel laptop, probably back in 2006, and it was second hand.
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    Firstly the 1080p 60 hz TN panel is a bit different to the 1080p 144hz IPS panels sold today.

    Most people struggle to use a higher resolution properly due to the small screen size, then you have battery life concerns, higher resolutions mean stronger backlights for the same brightness.
     
  19. comp5

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    Clevo nh70edq vs p970ed Which is better for Linux video editing, software development? Thank you in advance
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    Removed.
     
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  21. zorkx

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    P970ed barebones are delayed for 3 weeks according to my local vendor.
    Other webshops are advertising end of february now.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes, we are not offering it at this point until we are 100% on timings/shipping.
     
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    Edit: never mind
     
  24. Jer Stryker

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    https://www.originpc.com/gaming/laptops/evo17-s/

    This looks to me like the P970Ex. The page mentions that it has a G-Sync display, however it's not mentioned on the customize page, nor on any other site that I can find about the P970. Has anyone heard anything about this? If it has hardware switchable gpu, that's something that G-Sync laptops need if they want to also have Optimus, correct?

    I was eyeing the 16.1" P960Ex series, but if I can get G-Sync (without paying Origin's prices) I wouldn't mind having the bigger laptop. It would still be smaller than my 15.6" P650SG.
     
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    Our spec pages will detail features like that.
     
  26. Jer Stryker

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    Thanks.

    I've emailed Origin PC to ask them to clarify if their new EVO17-S is available with G-Sync or not. I have yet to see a P970 that advertises it.
     
  27. Arondel

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    As @Meaker@Sager said, the Sager website states "Switchable GPU by Microsoft Hybrid Graphics - NVIDIA® GeForce™ RTX 2060 GPU / Intel® UHD 630 Graphics" under the "Graphics" specification.

    The P96x seems to also have switchable graphics so if 16.1" is your preferred size, you may not need to go a different route just for the MUX switch :)
     
  28. Jer Stryker

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    Correct about the P96x, except I've started getting used to the idea of the bigger screen. :D Note that switchable graphics does not necessarily mean G-Sync. Switchable graphics is just the only way to get both G-Sync and Optimus in the same laptop (that I know of).
     
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    That is true!
    I understand your change of heart. I believe unless you have very strict size limitations the P97x will probably be the better choice since for what is almost half an inch more one could get a 15.46% screen area boost (or 22.98% advantage compared to 15.6").
     
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  30. Meaker@Sager

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    If carrying capacity is not a big concern the 17.3" is still a nice step up.
     
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    I have checked with a few resellers here in Germany, apparently the p970 barebone does not have a g-sync display.
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    I've been reading too many spec pages. Apologies, for the wrong information people as a correction hardware switching is not available. The internal display is hard wired to the igp so will always be running under optimus (hence no g-sync).
     
  33. Jer Stryker

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    Thanks for checking! I'm pretty sure Origin made a typo advertising theirs as having G-sync. I'm still waiting to hear back from them about it.
     
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    Has anyone seen an internal shot of the P970Ex? I'm wondering if it has similar cooling to the P960Ex, which has had a cooling upgrade over the P955. What was the last-gen 17" thin/light and how was the cooling on it?
     
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    The 17 inch has always had a longer gpu heatsink.
     
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    I'm currently choosing between P955ER and P970ED.
    They are very similar. The price is the same.

    P970ED basically has a scaled up chassis of P955ER.
    The chassis of P970ED is more "gaming"-looking, while the chassis of P955ER is very professional-looking.
    And that makes sense since the fourth number in Clevo model names means design, where 0 & 7 tend to be flashy, and 1 & 5 tend to be professional-looking.

    P970ED has an RTX 2060 vs a GTX 1070 Max-Q of P955ER.

    P970ED has a 17.3" screen but compare the dimensions!

    P955ER is 38 x 25 x 1.9 cm (rounded)
    P970ED is 40 x 27 x 2.0 cm (rounded)


    For gaming 1080p 144Hz gaming, both don't have G-Sync.
    P955ER has an LGD05C0 screen.
    P970ED has some AUO screen available.

    The battery is 55Wh vs 62Wh.

    Total RAM: 32GB vs 64GB.

    P970ED has two M.2 slots.

    Please list more comparisons.
    I always have preferred 15.6" displays, but if the difference in overall dimensions is not big, I probably will go for P970ED because it's a big GPU upgrade compared to the 15.6" brother.

    Please point me what are the disadvantages of getting a 17.3" version.
     
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  37. Meaker@Sager

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    Longer heatsink in the 17.3" version for a bit of extra gpu cooling.
     
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    I have to ask, is the RTX 2080MQ the 80W or 90W GPU?
     
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    Hi! I haven't been active in years as I switched over to desktops, but I'm now in need of a laptop again due to travels and I have decided on the P970EN. Since I haven't been on the forums in a while, I apologize if I'm posting in the wrong thread, it's just difficult to find information on such a new model.

    Anyway, I was wondering which reseller you guys recommend purchasing from? I've checked out of ton of them so far and it seems that NBR unequivocally agrees on HIDevolution? Unfortunately, they don't have the P970EN in stock right now and I expect to be moving by the end of March so it would be great to have the laptop by then. I did spec out a P970EF on their site and their prices on some components (namely RAM and storage) seem really high compared to our resellers. Is this normal given their service?

    I was also checking out XoticPC and they seem pretty solid. Origin looks good as well but it doesn't seem like they have an option to remove branding. (Call it vain, but I don't want bold text directly underneath my laptop's screen.)

    Also, I'll be moving primarily to New Zealand and traveling around southeast Asia, in case that is relevant to my choice of a reseller.

    So yeah, I'm just excited to join the owner's lounge, especially as I've been contemplating a Clevo since 2010, but require a bit of assistance! Thank you!
     
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    Most of the resellers remove the branding if you ask for it, just drop them an email!
     
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    I heard back from Origin. Their version does NOT have G-sync. It was a typo on their website and they are correcting it.

    That means there is no one offering a P970Ex with G-sync.

    Still torn between this and the 16.1" P960Ex. Also still trying to decide if it's worth spending $200 extra on the 2070MQ over the 2060. I have yet to find any benchmarks to compel me to get the more expensive gpu.
     
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    That's because its optimus with no hardware switch making g-sync not an option.
     
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    A couple things I'm wondering if anyone knows about this system that I haven't figured out yet:

    Does the cpu have good cooling, specifically something like 3 heat pipes and/or shared cooling with the gpu?

    What is the wattage of the 2070mq variant? I thought maybe I saw 80W somewhere but now I can't find it.

    Does anyone have actual dimensions they measured themselves? Sager and a couple other places say 15.69"/399mm but most others say 15.96". I know it's only a quarter inch but if it's the bigger of the two I'll probably have to go with the 16.1" P960.

    Thanks!
     
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    It is not a P970 but a P960 review:

    But I can imagine that many things are the same for the P970. Only speculation of course.
     
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    I'm guessing they are. Turns out the P970 will fit in my bag after all, so hoping it's as good on the inside as the P960.

    I had cpu temp issues on my P650SG which is why I'm concerned. I fixed it with an undervolt (which apparently everyone does anyway) so it's probably no big deal.
     
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    Similar construction with a slightly longer GPU heatsink.
     
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    @Ultra Male

    Can't PM you but see below.

    Here is the current conversion chart:

    NP9176 - P770TM1
    NP9156 - P750TM1
    NP897x (1 = ED, 2 = EF, 3= EN) - P970x
    NP896x (1 = ED, 2 = EF, 3= EN) - P960x
    NP8356 - PB51EF-G
     
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    Did anyone order a p970? I am super stoked for some feedback, cannot decide whether to get a p970, p960 or a tongfang. Tough times ;)
     
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    Same predicament!
    But I am close to pulling trigger on the P970ED. The price is right, it's barely bigger than a traditional 15.6 inch chassis yet you get significantly more screen and JarrodTech's P960 review is very positive about the P960 chassis. (plenty of people here PM'd me to help me with this choice too, good folks yes!)
     
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