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    *** Official Clevo P950HP6/Sager NP8950 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, May 11, 2017.

  1. Salthy

    Salthy Notebook Enthusiast

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    That is true, and the P650 probably has a larger fin area than the P950. I just don't want people to get the wrong idea about the P950 model and think that it is a butchered version of the P650. There are trade offs to be made here and it comes down to what the buyer values the most, thinner and lighter or heavier and thicker but with better thermals?
     
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    Pyroness Notebook Enthusiast

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    I fully have to agree. The P950 was so close to being a perfect laptop for me on paper and based on reviews. However, with the lack of a prema bios and a fan curve that potentially isn't going to be fixed in the next couple of months, it was enough to push me away.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    There are trade offs for all machines, that's just engineering for you. It's part of what makes notebooks more interesting than desktops due to those tighter requirements.
     
  4. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi everyone, just purchased the EVOC P950HP6 through HIDevolution. Huge thanks to @Donald@HIDevolution for helping me through the process. Highly recommend!

    I'll let everyone know when I receive the laptop. Now it's the hard part...waiting :D
     
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  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's like an extended Christmas eve when you were younger ;)
     
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  6. bmcgavin

    bmcgavin Newbie

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    If anyone is in the UK and interested in the P950HR (1070-MaxQ variant, Sager NP8952) then PC Specialist have just started stocking it as the Defiance XS :

    https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceXS-15/

    The Defiance III is their branding of the P650 - not sure if they're going to bring in the full 1060 P950HP6 chassis or not.
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Usually I think they have the same model listed but have the GPU as a selectable option.
     
  8. bmcgavin

    bmcgavin Newbie

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    Nope, just the 1070. I emailed to ask if they're going to get the 1060 as an option but they say no (although they did say they had no plans for the P950 chassis at all, so who knows).
     
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  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That's what I mean, if they were going to offer it then it would be there rather than a new model. It's not so they are not offering it at the moment.
     
  10. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    How exactly do you install the Clevo Control Center AP once it's downloaded? I'm on Control Center AP v5.0001.1.25. But there is a Control Center AP 5.0001.1.33 version out.
     
  11. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    ALWAYS uninstall the old version first, restart, install the new version, restart, done!
     
  12. Willem1990

    Willem1990 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is the fan situation sorted out already? This laptop has my preference but i'll probably buy with a gtx 1060 :)

    Is there any difference between the P950HR with 1060 gtx and the Max Q 1070 (besides the price and gtx)?
     
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  13. relax24

    relax24 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm probably getting the Defiance XS (p950hr/np8952)...I'm just waiting on more benchmarks from the 1070 Max-Q. Also does anyone know what the TDP is for the 1070-Max Q in this laptop? it says 80-90 but which one is it?

    Also, I'm deciding whether to get a 500 gb ssd + 2tb 5400 hdd, or a 1tb ssd and 1tb hdd. The first config is about £80 cheaper. What would people suggest?
     
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  14. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, worked like a charm.

    Fan issue is not sorted out. CPU fan is on when doing general productivity tasks, browsing web, etc.
     
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  15. Bruno@INPHTECH

    Bruno@INPHTECH Company Representative

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    Which EC do you have? I haven't tried any P950HP6 but in the P950HR with the new EC the fans only kicked in on games, benchmarks or heavy tasks.
     
  16. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm a noob to these forums, so forgive me if I don't understand what "EC" means? Mind helping me find out where to check that?
     
  17. Bruno@INPHTECH

    Bruno@INPHTECH Company Representative

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    Hehe ok, reboot and enter your BIOS (F2 when you see the boot logo) and in the first BIOS screen you can check the BIOS and EC version at the bottom.
     
  18. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    MB Series: P95_HP
    BIOS Version: 1.05.04
    KBC/EC Firmware Revision: 1.05.04

    If there is a new EC, how do I obtain one?
     
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  19. Bruno@INPHTECH

    Bruno@INPHTECH Company Representative

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    Well, on the Clevo e-channel the last one is the same as yours, maybe you'll have to wait for a new one to come up.

    You can ask here, but i'm sure that when there's a new one someone will comment it.
     
  20. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's a huge shame. I wonder what the issue is then. Why doesn't the P950HR have the same issue as the HP6 if they are running oon the same EC as you said?
     
  21. Bruno@INPHTECH

    Bruno@INPHTECH Company Representative

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    Sorry i haven't explained that well, the EC's are different for each model, the P950HR has a different one and the fans behave ok. You have to wait for a new one for the P950HP6 to come out.
     
  22. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I gotcha. So you are saying I'm running the latest EC there is. How do I make myself aware as to when these new EC's come out?
     
  23. Bruno@INPHTECH

    Bruno@INPHTECH Company Representative

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    Clevo is difficult, you have to ask where you bought yours, or come here to check or ask.

    There's a unofficial repository site but it's often out of date: https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/
     
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  24. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes, any difference in chips or heatsink you do want to tweak the curve.
     
  25. Chiefkeef

    Chiefkeef Newbie

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    What a shame about the fan noise on this model. With CPU > Ram > Weight > I/O > Fit/finish being my current search criteria, i thought "she was the one" but this fan noise hangup might push me right into the noticeably more expensive arms of the Aero 14. Sucks.
     
  26. semajm85

    semajm85 Newbie

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    Can i check if it's possible to use the discrete graphics card and connect it to a 120-144hz monitor for gaming?

    Mine has a 1070 max q card

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yes you can use the external outputs for G-sync/VR.
     
  28. semajm85

    semajm85 Newbie

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    Which particular output may I ask? Via the mini display port?

    Pardon me... Its been 6 years since I've made the jump back to a Windows platform..

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
     
  29. Menace2021

    Menace2021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Clevo supposed ot fix it with new EC updates or something.
     
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  30. Menace2021

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    This black line in the bottom right of my laptop screen appeared when I started watching a video. I played a youtube video that had a white screen to display the issue more prominently. However, the black line disspeared after restarting my laptop. Any clue how this happened? The black line is like right at the top of the Windows taskbar so I wasn't able to notice it until I started watching a fullscreen video. Restarting the laptop seemed to fixed the issue. I do have a 30 day pixel warranty, but it can't be a pixel issue.

    Also, when I did restart the laptop, the black line went away when the Windows "Restarting Windows..." blue screen comes up when you hit the shutdown/restart button. Issue is gone after restarting. Super weird. I'm so confused.
     

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    semajm85 Newbie

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    I can't seem to get my GTX 1070 enabled on my external monitor... Seems to be falling back to the integrated Intel gpu rather than the nvidia.

    Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    Which port are you using?

    What does the Nvidia panel say?
     
  33. semajm85

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    Display port. Says intel integrated


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  34. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Try the other display port.
     
  35. relax24

    relax24 Notebook Consultant

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    Are there any other reviews of the 950HR floating about on the net? Only one I've seen is the gentech video review. Or is it just too new/noone besides me wants it?
     
  36. McToweleee

    McToweleee Newbie

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    I'm really close to getting this, but I really want the 120Hz screen. Has anybody found either prebuilt or custom versions in the US with the 120Hz screen? I saw they have it on HIDevolution but the price difference for 60Hz prebuilt with Windows 10 on Amazon/NewEgg and custom built with 120Hz and no OS from HIDevolution is almost $200! If it was ~$50 more with no OS or ~$100 with Windows 10 I wouldn't have an issue but $200 is a little steep. If anyone has any other options I'd really appreciate it.
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    Has the fan curve been fixed yet? It looks like getting a BIOS update from any of the third party builders would be hard so if there isn't an update yet it seems like it isn't a good idea to invest in one of these, right? Or am I wrong here?
     
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  40. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    We always make the latest BIOS files available to our buyers on request so we can make sure they flash the correct file. So any updates and you are covered.
     
  41. McToweleee

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    As I'm reading up more on Clevo based systems that's what I'm seeing is normal. That's not a big deal then. Has there been a new BIOS released that fixes the fan curve or is there still a wait to hear from Clevo?
     
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    relax24 Notebook Consultant

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    Eurocom Support Company Representative

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    We have GTX 1070 MAX-Q version available. It's EUROCOM Q5 model - available via Future section on the website. It's 18.6mm thin designed for all of these that wear tight jeans or dream about wearing them. This is cool looking RED & BLACK lappie.
     
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    Hello there, I've just receive my laptop today from a local dealer in Malaysia ( TECH ARMORY ). I'm just wondering is it normal to have the CPU temp hovering around 49c? or do i have to something about it. Another issue is that the fan kicks in quite frequently. I'm guessing by reading the comments above its about the BIOS? I need to know is there any new BIOS to adjust the fan curve. Thanks!
     
  45. comicgeek

    comicgeek Notebook Geek

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    Anyone here used cemu on their p950s? Does Breath of the Wild run at 30fps?
     
  46. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Have you checked out some benchmarks of the 1060 and 1070? If you go for somewhere in the middle that's how it would perform.
     
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    Has anyone seen any reviews for the p950 model with gtx 1070 max-q? I've not been able to find any; I'm curious to see if the thermals are good
     
  48. Ildar Nizameev

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    Recently became a member of p950hp6 owner's club. Waiting for new bios, fun curve is a ****...
     
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    Couldn't have said it better, received this laptop about 2 weeks ago and I appreciate the aesthetics but the fan curve is just absurd.
     
  50. Logs

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    Yes I've just stumbled on this one. Live to know the thermals and expected battery life. Thanks.
     
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