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    *** Official Clevo P950HP6/Sager NP8950 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, May 11, 2017.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Quick Overview
    EVOC High Performance Systems P950HP6 Custom Built Gaming Laptop 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) IPS w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 w/6GB GDDR5 - Intel 7th Generation "Kaby Lake" Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ - 8GB DDR4/2400MHz upgradeable to 32GB DDR4/2666MHz Memory - Up to 1x 2TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSD + Up to 1x 2.5" 7mm 2TB HDD or 4TB SSD - Windows 10 Home or Windows 10 Pro (Optional)

    P6xxHx has
    - 1 extra M.2 slot
    - option for 9mm 2.5" drive + 7.5mm 2.5" drive, or two 7.5mm 2.5" drives. This only has an option for 1 7.5mm drive, meaning 1TB 7200RPM HDDs are 100% out of the question (May want to update this in the OP @Phoenix, it won't be holding a 2TB HDD unless it can hold a 9mm drive)
    - MUX switch
    - Gsync option
    - Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ
    - 1070N option
    - more ports

    EVOC P950HP6
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  2. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Yes this should be a popular one! With the 14.96” (w) x 9.80” (d) x 0.73” (h) 4.19 lbs. including Bare bone and 55WH Battery Pack.

    Some do say thin is in ... :)
     
  3. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Interesting. Aftershock PC revealed and began taking pre-orders for this notebook nearly a month ago; they branded it the Aftershock Prime-15. I didn't recognise the notebook when they mentioned it, but that was because I couldn't find it on the Clevo website.

    Is this meant to be the successor to the P6 series? If so, it's not particularly good; there's no G-Sync, fewer M.2 and SATA slots. The cooling system and internals, however, look really excellent, with separate systems for the CPU and GPU. The best is three heat pipes and two fans for the GPU:

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    Original Facebook post by Aftershock here.

    I still cannot believe that Clevo didn't put the 1060 in their P640, when nearly every other 13-14" notebook on the market has a 1060.
     
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    Not a successor but an alternative.
    They are keeping both models.
     
  5. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Good to hear that. However, I do hope that the successors to the P6 models begin to come with MXM GPUs again... The modularity of the P15/17 series is sorely missed.

    Also...

    Heh, here? At NBR? I was under the impression that everyone sacrificed their first-borns to the P870...
     
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    @Galm will be interested in this one I'm sure. Add it to the list of your recommendations bro.
     
  7. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    i think it could be a msi gs63vr killer :)

     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    p650 has a 60wh battery pack and a wifi battery life of 4.3hours, so this p950 could have 4 hours
     
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    Oh I'm interested as well. Might pick up 2. One for the sister and one to replace the DM1, On the desk at work.
     
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    I was excited about this...until I saw that there are no Thunderbolt 3 ports. o_O
     
  12. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    In all the years that I've had laptops with Thunderbolt ports, I never used one personally. to each their own I guess.
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    If this handles well under load with no throttling...I don't see why anyone would pick up the p650 over this, especially considering the price..
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    p650 has g-sync/optimus with mux and 7820hk :)
     
  16. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Whoa, yeah I wouldn't like this as a successor to the P650s because it's missing so much, but as it's own thing in thin and light these is freakin awesome! Thanks for the tag!

    I can't add it in good conscious until we have some reviews on thermals, but my hopes are pretty high for this one because Clevo is usually pretty good at that. It's definitely jumped up to the top of my watch list.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    More drive bays, GSync, 1070, 7820hk, more ram slots, and more panel options. I think this is a great option for most people, but I'm not sure if it would be a good replacement for my P650 perse. I think it's a much needed entry by Clevo into thin and light. I hope the build quality is nice.
     
  18. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I would want TB3 to add an eGPU when playing at my desk while still having plenty of power for games when I want to hook it up to my TV on the other side of the house.
     
  19. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Imo there is definitely a missing market segment for like a GS30 type laptop with a quad core cpu and no gpu but thunderbolt III support.
     
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    I'd rather have a dGPU - even a 1050/1050Ti would be fine. Something like an XPS 13/15 but less expensive.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Yeah sure I get it, but it's one of the most common requests I see between all the laptop sites I'm on and moderate. People would definitely be interested in no GPU.
     
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    @Meaker@Sager if you get the chance can you compare the chassis to the P650? Is anything metal?
     
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    Palmrest, A cover, and D cover are an Al-alloy metal.
     
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    Nice i want similar CPU cooling on P65XHS successor...
     
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    P6xxHx has
    - 1 extra M.2 slot
    - option for 9mm 2.5" drive + 7.5mm 2.5" drive, or two 7.5mm 2.5" drives. This only has an option for 1 7.5mm drive, meaning 1TB 7200RPM HDDs are 100% out of the question (May want to update this in the OP @Phoenix, it won't be holding a 2TB HDD unless it can hold a 9mm drive)
    - MUX switch
    - Gsync option
    - 7820HK option (though useless without @Prema magic)
    - 1070N option
    - more ports
    The cooling in that picture is pretty much the P650HP6 cooling system, with the P6xxHS and P670HP6 having an extra heatpipe linking the CPU & GPU heatsinks.

    P650HP6:
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    It's not a successor, it is running parallel for those who want to give up some of the storage options and G-sync switch for a lighter/thinner build.
     
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    Pardon my ignorance, where are the A cover and D cover?
     
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    A cover = Lid.
    D cover = bottom chassis.
     
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    Ah, so what isn't metal? Like the actual chassis under the palmrest?
     
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    Yes, some of the centre structure is not for weight/durability/cost/cooling reasons.
     
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    We haven't decided if/when we will launch this chassis yet (if we wanted, we could have launched with the U.S. Clevo partners so it's not differential delivery). There are other chassis in the P95* lineup which we prefer, plus the P65 / P67 have superior cooling compared to the P950 so at the moment we're still evaluating and modifying the chassis until we are happy with branding it as an "XMG" product and then releasing it into the wild ;-)
     
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    Personally the lid design is ugly. I much prefer a plain looking one.

    Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk
     
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    The design is never going to please everyone, hence why you get different revisions :)
     
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    Is there any chance of a gsync version of the p950?
     
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    No MUX on the motherboard so not internally. External screens can run it.
     
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    Not sure how to delete a post.
     
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    But the vBIOS permits it? For example, my P651SE can run G-Sync if I hook it to a G-Sync monitor trough display port?
     
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    I currently have a Sager NP8172 17.3" laptop and I will say, I LOVE IT! However, it's just too bulky when I'm travelling. I'll be doing more of it in the future and so to save my sanity and back muscles during TSA, I want to sell this machine off and change to a 15.4" laptop. My priorities are Weight = Battery Life > GPU> CPU > Ports. I'm mainly a WoW gamer and I periodically play Diablo and Gw2, I will sometimes play Overwatch when I want to hate myself and I'm interested in Mass Effect Andromeda. I do some light audition footage video editing and some light stuff like spreadsheets and internet stuffs.

    I have a spreadsheet dedicated to all the laptops I had an interest in but I wasn't in love with any of them. The recent 2 main contenders were the Gigabyte Aero 15 and the Asus ROG Stryx but the price of the Aero got way out of hand too fast. I'd like to keep it below $1700. The ROG was in the 1700 range and for the 1070, it seemed like a good deal but I hear of a heat issues often with these computers and I wasn't IN LOVE with the unit. The ugly keyboard just was a major turn off and there weren't as many ports as the Sagers have.

    So I was entertaining the Sager NP8157 ( http://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8157.html) which has a 1070 in it and a 120hz monitor with gsync but the battery is meh which is to be expected with a 1070 and it came out a little heavier than I'd prefer.

    So I entertained the Sager NP8156 ( http://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8156.html) which is almost the exact lateral move to the machine I have right now except it's a 15.6" version. The 8156 has a 1060 with a 120hz gsync screen. There's flexibility with the hard drives one can install which is nice as well. The weight is about 5.5 pounds. Meh battery life as well but I've been plugged in this long so it makes it a contender.

    Then Sager came out with the NP8950 ( http://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8950.html) which is super lightweight (BIG BONUS) with a 1060 (lateral move to what I have now) 4ish hour battery life (nice plus). Basically this is THE machine I really want... with the exception of the screen. the screen has no gsync or 120hz refresh. It's a 15.6” IPS HD 1920x1080 Display.

    So now my question is... how important is Gsync for the games I play? I'm not a big fan of games like Counter Strike or Call of Duty or any A++ level games. I don't know what the future holds but I'm not a real fan of FPS games. Is it worth it to just buy the 8950 machine now or hold off to see if they implement it with GSYNC or 120hz refresh? I spoke to the guys at Sager on twitter and they said that if there is enough demand for it, they'll entertain creating a unit with it. Is that a possibility in the future or is that false hope? For the case of future proofing as I don't want to sell this next one off for several years down the road, should I wait or should I just entertain the 8156 instead? Thoughts?
     
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    For the games you play G-sync would not play a role.
     
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    Unfortunately the price of a IPS G-Sync monitor is ridiculous :p
     
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    You wouldn't be able to use the G-Sync feature anyway. The mDP ports on the P6xxSx series are routed to the Intel iGPU unlike in later generations..
     
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    Well it´s almost time for you to upgrade your unit... :p
     
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    Are you sure? I was under the impression that one of those ports were connected directly to the dGPU.

    :D

    My next unit must be 2Kg, ThunderBolt Support, good battery and medium FullHd gaming capable. It might be a P95xHS series. But ( probably) not this model, because:
    • The power connector placement is a bit absurd
    • Still no option for a bigger battery if you choose to ditch the hdd (see Asus UX505 models)
    • No Thunderbolt support
     
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    No thunderbolt support? Are you sure of that? I was under the impression the P95x does have TB.
     
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