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    *** Official Clevo P870TM-R Owner's Lounge - Phoenix 5 ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 9, 2019.

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    I didn't even know that laptop existed until you posted this then I searched their site and saw it. Thanks for the heads up.

    Here's the lounge:

    *** Official Clevo P750TM-R Owner's Lounge - Phoenix 5 ***
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 26, 2019
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    I’m not too sure who to contact. I bought a P870DM-G second hand, then purchased all of the necessary parts to upgrade it to a P870TM. Any resellers that would be willing to provide me the appropriate bios update?
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 26, 2019
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    atquantrandash93, Jan 26, 2019
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    Who did you buy the motherboard from?
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 26, 2019
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    I purchased it from RJTech. I can always reach out to them and see if they can provide a bios update.
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 26, 2019
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    I would, since its thr firmware for the product you got from them.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 26, 2019
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    interesting project! did u have to do a lot of case modding to implement the TM mobo into the DM chassis?

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Jan 26, 2019
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    I actually bought an entire TM chassis for a really great price, so no modding was needed. There isn’t much in the DM that was useable, it had to pretty much all be replaced. It’s more of a “replace everything” than an upgrade lol.
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 26, 2019
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    Wow! I must say you are one guy with talent! I wouldn't even dare to do that nor do I have the patience.

    Good on you man
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 27, 2019
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    I in the ended up moved chassis too and gave Prema the old one.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 27, 2019
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    If anyone is interested, you can find the entire P870tm casing on taobao for super cheap, seemed to be of good quality when i received it.

    Thank you for the help, I was able to get the updated bios from RJTech and have the 9900k in there now.
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 27, 2019
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    Excellent, I thought RJTech would be able to sort you out :)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 27, 2019
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    Do you mean casing with everything needed to perform upgrade? (motherboard/cooling etc)
     
    Rahego, Jan 27, 2019
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    Nope, it is just the external casing, and it also came with some extras like the touchpad and buttons, an eDP cable and various other things, but the MB and other electronics/heatsinks and fans you need to purchase separately.
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 27, 2019
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    With motherboard etc. That would be a barebone.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 28, 2019
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    Hallo, got answer from Donald: RTX gpus not supporting SLI modus. So theres no sli gpu available. HDCP 2.2 not supporting. Mini Display port is only 1.3. And MXM modules are dying.
     
    Stefan Müller, Jan 28, 2019
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    That's been known about for some time, there is no mobile connector for NVlink.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 28, 2019
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    I only know of one game that supports it (Ashes of the Singularity) but would the Multi GPU function of DX12 work with it if there were two 2080's installed? Maybe HyperSLI?
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 28, 2019
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    Non vendor specific multi gpu would work but with the obvious limitations of game being coded for it and PCI-E bandwidth.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 28, 2019
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    Why is no laptop supporting HDCP 2.2 and new thunderbolt titan ridge card for supporting Mini Display Port 1.4 for 8k :-(
     
    Stefan Müller, Jan 29, 2019
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    Is easy. Because normally user don't use this Funktion and they don't know where he can use this all this new solutions.

    Fastest Customizable Gaming Notebooks & Mobile Workstations | CLEVO System Integrator
     
    clevo-extreme, Jan 29, 2019
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    What do you mean great price. Tell us pls.

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    clevo-extreme, Jan 29, 2019
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    Availability/cost/PCB space/power, those are a few reasons why they may not.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 29, 2019
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    It seems to be not possible to purchase the P870TM-R with HDCP 2.2 and titan ridge. I need hdcp 2.2 for 4k streaming damn it.
     
    Stefan Müller, Jan 29, 2019
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    Of course is without sli. And next gen will be also without sli. Unfortunately this is past. But I have tested yesterday i9-9900k with rtx 2080 made 34000 GPU scores and system with p870dm3-g with i7-9700k and 2x gtx 1080 going up. To 53000 GPU scores. [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    clevo-extreme, Jan 29, 2019
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    i see the sli is faster? Im confused 20542 vs 27722?

    Then old gpu sli is better than new?

    So theres might not be a reason to buy the rtx when sli is faster nor?
     
    Stefan Müller, Jan 29, 2019
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    For me personally is just another test project like gtx 980 desktop from past..
    Nothing special.. Comparison price/performance not good. Cost much more in all possible ways as barebone and as mxm moduls.

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    clevo-extreme, Jan 29, 2019
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    But mxm modules are perfect to change a dead gpu i would needed that in my past notebooks same for changable desktop gpus.
    For me that fixed in soldered crap should generally be forbidden theres no possible way to change dead electronic stuff for longer lifetime of products.

    If a wear product in a device is not replaceable than the overall device itself is a construction failure....
     
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    This is the original model with tweaked firmware and the new gpu so no surprises there.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jan 29, 2019
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    I got it for around 140 shipped.
     
    Nmanfred, Jan 29, 2019
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    Vistar Shook, Feb 1, 2019
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    rtx2080 sli? What i wanna have that nb
     
    Stefan Müller, Feb 1, 2019
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    as seen the P870TM1 with dual 1080 in sli will give better performance compared to the new single rtx 2080 P870TM-R. So better look for the sli 1080
     
    Stefan Müller, Feb 1, 2019
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    3080 it is!
     
    ole!!!, Feb 2, 2019
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    It's not an upgrade path for 1080 SLI, though in games that disagree with SLI the 2080 will come out ahead.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Feb 2, 2019
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    Rtx 2080 just not fit with old heatsinks with all p870 available heatsinks? Where is solution? [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    this card work on your laptop?
     
    Dmitry Zyabko, Feb 2, 2019
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    This card doesn't fit with any heatsinks from CLEVO P870 Series... And i can imagine how could they sell p870tm-R " im thinking about HiD" so...

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    clevo-extreme, Feb 2, 2019
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    They modified the heatsink. Probably need to do some grinding.
     
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    Stefan Müller, Feb 3, 2019
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    All I can say is it's interesting. They really used SLI word

    Sent from my MIX 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes and the price raised to 1999 so i dont think its a typing error. I just send email. Ill let you know when i have answer.

    2080 sli would be great :D

    On the us site its not available with sli 2080

    Curious if i can play diablo 2 on high setting with this config o_O
     
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    Maybe sli works without sli bridge? Like one generation from past. But the question is if they use original CLEVO gpus? I don't thinks so. Maybe some another vendor because this fit is like Msi vendor with modified vbios. Probably 99.99 % :)

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    what does this mean? If it does fit in with Modifications or modified mxm board than i dont see a problem.
     
    Stefan Müller, Feb 3, 2019
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    It's amazing if they really push this as far as making a new GPU unit

    He means there's a possibly to run SLI without using a usual bridge

    Sent from my MIX 3 using Tapatalk
     
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    Will see what answer i get from eurocom. Thank you =)
     
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    They might be advertising it as SLI but it's just two 2080s in mGPU, which wouldn't help in anything.
     
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    Why wouldnd it help? It's still sli if its supported game. I think it's just the P870 with 2 gpu's mxm2080 so not bad at all.
     
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    It's not SLI. It's mGPU, a DX12 feature and as far as I know, no game as of yet supports mGPU.

    SLI is supported in many games.

    Let's wait and see what this "2080 SLI" really is.
     
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