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    *** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by NordicRaven, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. Kaozm

    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    Premevo P870 mmmmmmmm premium evolution
     
  2. GeneralCH

    GeneralCH Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are there any more information about dimensions of the case of the P870DM beyond these ones:
    428(W) x 308(D) x 45(H) mm

    From the look of it, that notebook has a strange shape. Im curious :D
     
  3. XMG

    XMG Company Representative

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    I have one in front of me, which figures do you need?
     
  4. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    aw now ure just showing off @XMG :p :D
     
  5. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Is it possible to share specs of the unit you have?) Run some tests, you know.. :rolleyes:
     
  6. GeneralCH

    GeneralCH Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thx for answering my question, this was fast! :)

    Im interested in the width and height of the front and back:


    I saw in other pics, that the notebook has a strange conical shape if you look at it from the bottom. If you look from the top, it doesnt. Prema has a good photo in the other forum (dunno if im allowed to use it here)

    Edit: Oh wait, i actually found a similar pic from XMG :D

    [​IMG]
     
  7. XMG

    XMG Company Representative

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    Who me, I just have a latop in one hand and a a micrometer in the other ;)

    Of course! We published photos last week, I have it for testing now so I will post up what I get done. Seeing as we have already done NVMe and other stuff, main focus is on GPU (GTX 980 here we come) and overall performance. I'll try and get it online before the weekend!
     
  8. XMG

    XMG Company Representative

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    From desk to top of the front lip is 43mm high, from desk to the back part where the hinge meets the speaker grill is 48.5mm high.

    It is a pretty regular rectangular shape, just tapers in a little at the rear. That photo from techinferno and the XMG U726 one are just warped because of the perspective of the photo!

    P.S. I have a prior engagement tonight, will catch up on any further questions tomorrow and then benchies to follow later.
     
  9. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    You have a hot date? Niiicee...
     
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  10. GeneralCH

    GeneralCH Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sup thx for the infos! :)

    So it just differs 5mm in height from front to back. Does the handwrist scratch the frontlip, when you type?
     
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  11. Chansen-Institute

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    So when can we expect this beast to be available? At Xotic?
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

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    As soon as NDAs let people say they will :)
     
  13. Chansen-Institute

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    Ahhh yes, the unfortunate nda... but Im looking for a guess, like this month or next or 2016... I've been wanting to buy a top of the line sager for 8 months now and I can definitely wait but I'm just curious if it's going to be next year or not.... I have bad eris so what I've really been waiting for is a 17.3" screen in 4K... and the other upgrades are great too like the desktop 980 but will that make my notebook a loud lap heater?
     
  14. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Models with the 980 in it are supposed to have improved cooling, compared to their 980m counterparts, to handle the increased demands from the desktop card. Since they aren't released, there really aren't any numbers out there on it. But I would assume it is going to be hotter, just don't know to what amount.

    As soon as NDA is up, then I'm sure you'll hear people talking about it. Just stick around here or check your preferred vendor's site.
     
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    Wait until November ;)
     
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  16. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    What I can say is that this Owner's Lounge was started way too early....

    However I too am excited about this one! :)
     
  17. hi9580

    hi9580 Notebook Consultant

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    can you even daisy chain the converters?
     
  18. hi9580

    hi9580 Notebook Consultant

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    why not specifically binned fury x2 in sli? then you can have quad fire on a laptop
     
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  19. hi9580

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    Didn't know they were making a 18" model, do you have model name or link to rumours?
     
  20. octiceps

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    Funny, didn't know AMD cards supported SLI. Also, 175W x 4 in a laptop? That's 700W for GPUs alone. Good luck powering and cooling that.
     
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    theyre not, wingnut was just expressing a wish :)

    @octiceps: thats why he said "binned" ;) if youre already a stickler for correct wording, do it right :D

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  22. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Pshh. When has an owner's lounge for a clevo flagship system started on NBR less than a month before release? =D
     
  23. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I am aware of 4 "owner"...only wish that would include myself! :rolleyes:

    @XMG give us some benches already! :D
     
  24. XMG

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    To be fair, the P75xDM owners thread was created way to early, it led to so much anticipation that it almost imploded! The P870DM owners thread was started around the time that Nvidia press released the GTX 980 and they used a Clevo chassis, so yes it's well before the actual sale date but it was already in the public domain :) Maybe they should be only be converted into the "Owners" lounge when the products actually start shipping..
     
  25. mythlogic

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    <tease> Going up right now for pre-order </tease> ;)

    EDIT: Its up, just check out site =)
     
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  26. moviemarketing

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    With a helpful pic of what quad fire on a laptop might look like...
    [​IMG]
     
  27. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    FTFY
     
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  28. STJOHN777

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    What site? I don't see it on Xoticpc.

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  29. mythlogic

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    Ouch that hurts :chatterbox: :bigwink:
    OUR Site =P
     
  30. dhruv2007

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    Mythlogic's site obviously :p Its surprisingly cheap.. I was expecting to pay an arm and a leg.. Only going to cost an arm :p
    @mythlogic Any chance you can give a timeline on when they will start shipping?

    Someone needs to come up with a really cool Phoenix logo/wrap for this laptop.. I am useless as a designer :(
     
  31. mythlogic

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    *Points at the* Late October / Early November ETA ;)
     
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    Hahaha.. I was so excited I immediately scrolled down to the GPU section without even reading anything else :p :oops:

    EDIT : I figure I should get a second opinon here.. I mostly need this as a demo platform for VR.. My current laptop is 8265-s which has Optimus :( So is the desktop GTX 980 going to be enough or should I be going all out and get 980m SLI? Its definitely above the min specs.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    980m sli, or wait for an sli 980 mobile version as suggested by Prema (not the 200w beast, but should be more powerful than 980m).
     
  34. Niwoo

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    I am having the same problem deciding as you. But after checking and reading on benchmarks and OC performance. I am more inclined to get the 980, the 980m sli is about an extra £250.

    More importantly when games do not scale well with sli, having slightly above single card performance would put me off 980m sli vs. 980 OC. I feel like 980 OC is plenty for 1080p and can handle 1440p. I think I also read somewhere that VR does not scale well with SLI, which is another incentive to possibly opt for a powerhouse single card setup and also get a better deal in the process.
     
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    From what I understand the 980 sli version is only coming in the MSI Titan for now. It does look tempting but I am sure it is going to be far more expensive than a 980m sli.

    That's what I had thought before as well but there's several new features in the nvidia drivers for supporting VR. The most important one being that each card will render to a separate screen. That could bring serious performance benefits I think because a 980m will easily keep up at half resolution.
     
  36. Niwoo

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    If that is confirmed then perhaps it would be worth it. However for me I do not think I will be into VR this gen. So for me the conundrum is for strictly single display gaming, most likely at 1080p.

    My current set up with 680m sli last me until now, some games like witcher 3 cannot be maxed anymore, although it is still close to max. I figured it was time for me to upgrade, I want a system that can stay with me for at least 3-4 years once again maxing games at 1080p. So the question is 980 vs 980m sli vs waiting for pascal.
     
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    Sweet!! Any word on QFHD/4K.displays for the Phobos yet?
     
  38. dhruv2007

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    I already have a DK2 which was working pretty well with the 780m until the latest SDK killed it :( Totally worth it in my opinion. And well.. gives me an excuse to upgrade as well :p

    @mythlogic Just to confirm, from what I have read the 980 desktop may or may not be possible to upgrade depending on what nvidia releases, but the 980m sli will be the usual mxm and can be upgraded?
    Also, what does the Power Converter box do in this option - Additional AC Adapter (330W) and Power Converter Box Required for CPU+GPU Overclocking? Do I need it if I have no intention to overclock at all for a 980m SLI + 6700k? I will probably add in both M.2 drives and at-least one hard drive.
     
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  39. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    it gives u the ability to run two 330W psus in parallel, thus giving you 660W total power for overclocking your system :) running everything at stock you should be fine though:

    2x100W 980M SLI + 91W 6700K + ~40W rest of system = 331W

    and thats only if you run applications that MAX OUT every single component in your machine, which pretty much happens....like never :D

    edit: corrected my arithmetics :p
     
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  40. Samot

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    @jaybee83 , you missed 10w on the total amount. ;)
     
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    haha, thx! was writing it while doing some data analysis here, so my head wasnt really in the game :p
     
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    Looks like the P870DM is using the same 15" keyboard.
     
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    Anyone knows if there will be a single gt980m option with a SLI upgrade possibility?
     
  45. jaybee83

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    thatll likely depend on the shop ure buying from, if they include that option in their configurator. otherwise, theres always asking nicely ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  46. jaybee83

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    u mean they only have the lvds instead of the edp?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    They offer the ips screen. Don't know if that is the edp or lvds though...
     
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    Hey, Myth, any word if P775Dm is released during the same time frame?
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    There are moments in life when you say F*** it, roll over, and go back to bed. This morning was one of those! :D o_O :biglaugh:
     
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    No 980 in the 1715s yet though. :(
     
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