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@octiceps pretty much yes. Just to expand, the P870 was primarily designed to be SLI but of course this lends itself to GTX 980 support. The P775 is physically larger internally than the P77xDM hence GTX 980 support.

 

Considering the GT80 is marketed as being an upgrade-able laptop, including BGA options invalidates its marketing and the reason for many (uninformed users) to buy it.

 

Cross your fingers then. "MSI, you're my only hope" (for MXM-B 980 cards that might work with Clevo).

 

Prema and I both expect them in MXM formats though (with lower clockspeeds). I'm not worried.

 

yup, same here. just give it some time and the regular sized clevo mxm boards of the 980 will surface

 

Oh dear! If it becomes 980's SLI then I have to lock myself up in a monastery or so. Because otherwise I'll have to spent lots of bucks to get it!

 

Clevo has been testing a "variant" of the full GM204 in the regular P7x0DM for quiet a while now...so let's see...it may or may not be made available from Clevo directly...

EDIT:

One thing is for sure, whoever is gonna offer a GXX in standard MXM-B package is going to make huge bucks in the upgrade market place.

A single GXX in an SLI system makes little sense if SLI 980M can easily beat it.

EDIT2:

Heck even a single 980M can already be OCed to match or even beat a stock 980:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3685189

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3685371

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4569428

 

BTW, as I am not that familiar with Skylake-Series. Will there be an extreme Edition too or is "K" the new "X"?

 

"extreme" CPUs in mobile have "MX" or "XM" next to their name. There are no more extreme mobile CPUs.

Desktop CPUs have the "X" when they're the "enthusiast" branch. The P7xxZM/P7xxDM/P870DM all use the "mainstream" branch (hence no quad channel memory, only 16 PCI/e lanes, etc). "K" means it's an unlocked multiplier, and nothing more. "X" is cut from the center of the wafer and has best overclocking stability in general. The models that've used the "enthusiast" line in the past are the D900F (my old baby), the X7200, the P270WM and the P570WM (still sold currently; albeit only by Eurocom in NA). There has been no Haswell-E variant announced, and my guess is because Haswell CPUs draw so much extra power and produce so much extra heat compared to Sandy/Ivy bridges that it would be impossible to produce a decent model that used multiple GPUs, and I don't think Clevo wants to revert that model back to single-GPU. The power draw would be more of a pain to deal with than the heat; I believe over 4GHz on a 5960X at some point drew over 400W of power.

 

Well, an i7-5960X, quad channel DDR4, and dual full-fledged 200W GTX 980s in SLI, in a P570WM successor would've been quite the insanity, but I guess that would be absolutely impossible to cool or to power at full load. Oh well, one can dream...

 

I agree, but would also add that it has been so long, Skylake-E will be out before they have had enough time to recoup the amount they would want. Broadwell-E, as of two months ago, was slated for release Q1. As of 4 months ago, Skylake-e was to be released in Q3-4 of 2016. More recent news suggest Purley, the server platform for skylake, will not be available until 2017. But this gives one year and one quarter before the next platform is available. If Clevo had put this out on Haswell release, then it would be longer lived, but I'd suggest they'd wait for Skylake before an enthusiast/server platform is created.

 

never say never...

 

Well, if one will bring it out water cooled and with additional PSU , then.... wait!

That's a Desktop, right?

 

18"??? drool...

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yeah there are some talks about an 18 inch DM recently will it be really x99 mobile chipset with SLI 980s and Dual Psu?? might be.

 

some talk? it was just one single comment which sounded more like a wish rather than stating a fact theres literally NO info on any upcoming 18 inch clevo yet (even tho it was actually HTWingnut who posted that comment )

 

Yeah some ppl are way too gullible. Remember 990M = 980M SLI?

 

well at least in that case we had a chinese CEO putting that info out, and not just one random forum comment

 

There is no new 18" Clevo...maybe in a year or two or three...

 

I can sell my alienware 18 and np9380 now. Lol.....to get this

 

Yeah, 980 M SLI FTW - let the kids clamour over a crippled BGA GTX 980 turdbook, LOL. They can wrap BGA trash in whatever kind of hype and hooplah imaginable and it will still be a hot and steamy deep-dish colon loaf. Even if it works right and performs as well as non-BGA model, it still be an undesirable piece of poop for no reason other than it's BGA and BGA CPU and/or GPU always sucks.

 

lol, my thoughts were along those lines when i saw that 980 BGA equipped aorus

 

Will it have an 120HZ screen? Otherwise I might get lucky with overclocking again, but it would be nice to have 120HZ by default.

 

Bummer. I *really* like my M18x R2. Like, really like it. Really.

But, I would never take in on the factory floor. It's too "gamer-ish" and it's too pretty to mess up in an industrial environment. Come on Clevo! GIMME MY 18 INCHER!

 

hey, wait a minute there!

so a clevo 18 inch would NOT be too pretty to mess up in an industrial environment?!

BLASPHEMY!

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Well, the M18xR2 is like the computer equivalent of a '67 Mustang GT500 "Eleanor" or a '69 Camaro Z28 or a '70 Hemi Cuda. As a cultural icon machine, you don't want to mess them up using them using them as a daily driver, as tempting as it may be. While they once were, they don't have to be the fastest forever to remain amazing.

 

Just wait Mr. Fox; the MXM GTX 980 will be out soon... and then we'll all prema-bios-update and vBIOS update and be happy =D

 

Not that I intentionally mess up my machine, but being in an industrial environment it will happen. Don't want that to happen to My Precious.

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Are there any reviews for the AUO B173ZAN01.0 ?

 

What's the issue with BGA?

 

None I could find, just some specs:

http://www.panelook.com/B173ZAN01.0_AUO_17.3_LCM_parameter_25358.html

100% AdobeRGB? If that's true then I want this...

 

Not a review but I did find this. @XMG Which one of these behemoths P775DM, P870DM is the U716?
http://www.mysn.de/xmg-ultimate-gaming-notebooks/xmg-u706
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Its true and I want this screen, too!

4K, 100% Adobe RGB is exactly what I've been looking for...I just hope they get it g-sync licensed, too.

The U716 is the P870DM

 

FYI all GT80'S are mxm and not bga

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I believe it´s the P775DM.

Edit: strike that out. The config page for the U716 has sli option. It´s the P870DM.

http://mysn.de/xmg-ultimate-gaming-notebooks/xmg-u716

Edit 2: " Ultra-HD Panel AU B173ZAN01.0 is not G-SYNC-compatible"

 

Yeah and with G-SYNC as well it'll be the perfect display.

@GTVEVO Yes the GPUs are MXM but the CPU is BGA(soldered).

 

Two issues.

Historically BGA chips have been artifical locked down compared to the socket based options.

BGA chips are non upgradable/replacable without significant effort and a pin compatible chip.

 

Not g-sync compatible and not g-sync licensed (yet) are two different things.

 

understandable but the question was on the GPU's early in the thread that I didn't see a confirm on so just confirming the GPUs

 

Well I think the P870DM-G will be perfect, damn near.

 

Cookie Monster

 

I am actually hoping for official support down the line...but I guess there is always plan-b.

 

I think the rest of us know it as plan - P... just in case. And having a Mythlogic P770ZM-G, as I understand it, they had the G up the line.

 

any panel with eDP 1.3 is essentially gsync compatible right? that's when VESA's variable refresh came out

 

Modded vbios files BGA chips are harder to find/implement so it applies to both really.

 

4K, 100% AdobeRGB... and possibly G-Sync? Clevo:

 

Looks like you can order barebones versions of this laptop without the CPU, and buy it separately. Considering the GPU is at 200 watts, I think it might be a good idea to get the skylake 6700 at 65w instead of the 6700k at 95w.

Nvidia is really milking Maxwell. I think this suggests that their next graphics iteration will be a huge jump in performance.

Considering this includes the latest iteration of Maxwell, I wonder if it might be possible to SLI another 980 through the thunderbolt connection. That'd be really cool.

 

zamoeba, it's always best to get the best CPU the frame offers, especially if you are getting the best GPU. They need each other

You can always detune the 6700k, but the 6700 is what it is without option for much more. You could replace / upgrade the CPU, but then you have orphaned a 6700, and who wants that when they can get a 6700k?

 

Tis why I said that MSI would be breaking an advertising law by including any BGA GPUs, and that the fact that mobile 980s are in their laptops mean that MXM variants WILL exist.

 

I'd recommend this method too, plus it's hard to say what the best balance point will be before anything comes out.