*** Official Clevo P870DM/Sager NP9870-G Owner's Lounge - Phoenix has arisen! ***

I know that discussion about this laptop was in the air for some time now but I haven't seen dedicated topic to it - so here comes new thread with some pictures.

This model is called the P870DM. There is a G-Sync option available as well called the P870DM-G.



And now some specs:
Procesor
Intel® CoreTM i7-6700K processor (14nm, 4.0GHz, DDR4 2133MHz, 8MB Smart cache,TDP: 95W)

Intel® CoreTM i5-6600K processor (14nm, 3.5GHz, DDR4 2133MHz, 6MB Smart cache,TDP: 95W)

Intel® CoreTM i5-6500 processor (14nm, 3.2GHz, DDR4 2133MHz, 6MB Smart cache,TDP: 65W)

Intel® CoreTM i5-6400 processor (14nm, 2.7GHz, DDR4 2133MHz, 6MB Smart cache,TDP: 65W)

Chipset
Intel® Z170 Express Chipset

Screen
17.3” (43.94cm) QFHD (3840x2160) / FHD (1920x1080) 16:9 panel, 4.0mm

RAM
Dual channel DDR4

Four 260 pins SODIMM sockets, support DDR4 2133 MHz ( Real operation frequency depends on processor)

Expandable memory up to 32GB/64GB, depends on 4GB/8GB/16GB SODIMM module

GPU
• Support 4 active displays

• Support NVIDIA® Surround View via HDMI x1 and miniDP x2



• NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 980M (N16E-GX)

- 8GB GDDR5 Video RAM

- Support PCIe x8

- Microsoft DirectX® 12 compatible

- MXM3.0 Type B

- NVIDIA® PhysX®

- GeForce CUDATM technology

- Support NVIDIA® SLI® Technology


• NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 980 8GB GDDR5 <- desktop card



• NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 970M (N16E-GT)

- 6GB GDDR5 Video RAM

- Support PCIe x8

- Microsoft DirectX® 12 compatible

- MXM3.0 Type B

- NVIDIA®PhysX®

- GeForce CUDATM technology

- Support NVIDIA® SLI® Technology

Hard Drive and Optical Drive
Two changeable 2.5” 7mm/9.5mm(H) HDD/SSD, SATA interface (RAID 0/1)

Two M.2 2280 SSD SATA/PCIe interface (RAID 0/1)

Keyboard and Touchpad
Multi languages full color illuminated full size keyboard with numeric pad and anti-ghost keys

Built in touch pad with multi-gesture and scrolling function

W/A/S/D gaming key

Audio
High Definition Audio

S/PDIF digital output

Built in array microphone

Built in two speakers

Built in one subwoofer speaker

ANSPTM 3D sound technology on headphone output

SOUND BLASTER® X-FI® MB5

External 7.1CH audio output supported by headphone, microphone, Line-in and S/PDIF jack

I/O Ports
5 x USB 3.0 ports (1 x powered USB port, AC/DC)

1 x USB 3.1 (*Type C - Thunderbolt™ 3)

2 x RJ-45 LAN port (Killer Double Shot-3 Pro)

1 x HDMI output port (with HDCP)

2 x Mini Display port 1.2

1 x Headphone jack

1 x Microphone jack

1 x S/PDIF output jack

1 x Line-in jack

1 x DC-in jack

Card Reader
6-in-1 Push-Push Card reader

- MMC / RSMMC

- SD / mini SD / SDHC / SDXC up to UHS-ll

Internal slots
Three M.2 card slots

-1st for WLAN Combo M.2 2230 Card with PCIe and USB interface

-2nd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe Gen3 x4 interface

-3rd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe Gen3 x4 interface

Comunication
Built in Qualcomm® 10/100/1000Mb Base-TX Ethernet LAN

2.0M FHD video camera

Battery and AC Adapter
Full Range AC adapter, AC in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 19.5V, 16.9A, 330W

Embedded 8 cells Smart Lithium-lon battery pack, 89WH

Battery life: 180 minutes (TBC) (with NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 970M single, 89WH Battery)

Security
Kensington® Lock

Finger print

TPM 2.0

Dimension
428(W) x 308(D) x 45(H) mm

Weight
4.8kg

 

THE RISE OF THE PHOENIX!

This is going to be my new dev-system. So expect some "extra love" coming its way!

Some more STUFF.

 

It looks like they're still using the 15" keyboard on their 17" models. Why?

Come on Clevo - you have a bigger chassis, make a keyboard specifically for these larger models.

 

haha, this "issue" has been around forever, same with other brands though

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MSI and Lenovo do this, but other brands don't.

Both ASUS and Alienware create keyboards for each specific model, or at least most of them.

 

Let's hope the 18" gets a full keyboard.

 

some burning questions

as prema mentions gtx 980 card form factor (Standard MXM-B is 105x83mm while this is 115x108mm). lets call it mxm type c maybe.

1. does the clevo p870dm cme with 2 different motherboards for gtx 980m sli and one for gtx 980?

2. is the mxm type c slot backward compatible with mxm type b?

3. is it upgradable for future gpus as well? when a pascal desktop type card releases for this ?

 

whoa there will be an 18inch clevo as well? whats it called??

 

1. no

2. yes

3. physically yes, technically maybe, but that always depends on system / video bios as with every machine and new gpu gen.

reasoning behind this: the connector itself didnt change, just the size of the card (its a bit wider than standard mxm 3.0 B). so it is totally possible to build a mobo that sports two gpu slots, where one of the two allows the installation of a wider card (i.e. a 980), but this solution would at the same time allow two regular sized mxm card to be installed in sli.
with that being said, ud only need to have different heatsink designs (either two regular sized for sli or one giant sink) to accomodate all configurations.

just my take on this @Prema feel free to correct me if im wrong

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The MXM type-B heatsink uses one for Master and another (almost identical, not like in the P3 models) one for the slave GPU. Plus an additional one for the CPU.
None of them are linked in the "PHOENIX" model as they are in the "BATMAN" models.

The heatsink for the 200W MXM module uses 6 wide heatpipes as well as FAN grills towards both sides (T-shaped).

MXM connector are identical and the regular type B cards as well as the 200W card use the same.
But there is an additional power cable for the 200W card a bit like on desktops.

 

phoenix, i like that make sure to put that into the owner's lounge thread title, help it propagate!

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Title? What title?

 

Looks like a desktop 980 is 3/4th the cost of sli 980m's. That seems odd considering a single 980m is nearly double the cost of a desktop 980.

 

Can I trade two Alienware SLI beasts, with lots of spare parts and two Orion backpacks for one of these? Please?

 

That's pretty much what I did

 

I'm just fed up with all of the nonsense. I'm ready to wash my hands and move on. This looks like a good option.

 

Since it either 980M SLI or 980 I've guessing @Prema will be getting 980M SLI then.

Samsung also announced the 950 Pro SSD so things will get interesting for the P870DM.

 

sneaky! good job haha

u kidding? its prema were talking about here... hes just gonna mod the crap outta his P870DM and make TWO full-fledged 980s work

 

LOL!

Problem is the 200W cards don't come with SLI connector (and don't even have any SLI provision)...so even if you get the housing to take them it won't help.
Will probably get 2 of the "lesser powered" NE16-GXX in MXM-B flavor (MSI-18"-ish cards) and drop them in the P870DM. Clevo should actually have an official option like that closer to release...

 

Would you say the "lesser powered" NE16-GXX's will just have a reduced TDP but same clock speeds or the clock speeds will be less as well? A vbios can fix that but just curious

 

im betting on smaller number of power phases first and foremost. couple that with lower vRAM speed they could potentially have the same core clock speed, just with lower overclocking potential and less vRAM bandwidth...

 

All N16E-GXX will be very different from each other...from TDP, to core and vRAM clocks to vRAM capacity...

Just look at the Asus with 2500Mhz vRAM...the MSI SLI won't use 2 x 200W cards and so on...

I wish we could just dump two 200W into the Clevo and be done with it, but there is still the TB3 port to do crazy things like that.

 

Well, man, that really sucks. 980M SLI is already better than a single desktop GTX 980. Not having an SLI option (no port on the GPU for it) with the mobile GTX 980 is not making me too happy. I'm not thrilled with the idea of single GPU. I don't give a rat's butt how much power it draws... like, who cares, LOL. Just get two dual 330W AC adapters and a third AC-100 converter box and you'll have what you need and then some.

 

ull still be able to sli up two of the "regular" mxm 980 puppies oced to the bleeding edge, they should still totally kick any config´s butt out there currently available!

 

True, but still... NVIDIA is still up to no good with this baloney. Leaving an SLI bridge connection off of the GPU is just so dirty. Maybe AMD will have an answer to the mobile GTX 980. with a heart-stopping CF configuration.. Probably not, but it never hurts to hope.

 

fury nano mobile FTW

 

Fury nano x2!!!

 

thats what i was getting at, actually but thx for spelling it out

 

I was meaning single card like the fury x2, binned like fury nano and lowered clock (and whatever other mods were needed), with the cooling of an sli Clevo setup! ;-)

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-fury-x2-dual-gpu/

ooooooh! NOW i get it! havent read about the X2 until now, interesting! AMD revving up!

funny how a dual Fury card would be regular sized length for any "normal" desktop gpu with GDDR5

 

Sorry, couldn't resist!

GTX 980 (stock) vs GTX980 M SLI OC:

http://forum.techinferno.com/clevo/10936-clevo-pxxxdm-skylake-desktop-cpu-series-3.html#post144909

 

Man...can I get this with two R9 Nanos inside? Would be thrilled to own one with those!

 

So, 980M SLI still very soundly stomps a single new mobile GTX 980? I expected that would be the case. It's very tough for a single GPU to compete with dual. That comparison is fairly close to 980M SLI versus desktop with GTX 980.

My concern would be how well it overclocks. If it doesn't do that well, it doesn't interest me. I don't care about stock because it is... well... stock. Stock means ordinary. The desktop Fury really can spank a GTX 980 when both are running stock. Factor in overclocking the GTX 980 steals the show... much better overclocker.

 

Different strokes for different blokes. We just discussed the Specviewperf benchmarks, I would KILL to have a HBM Fury in a laptop for that kind of work. Overclocking is nice, but even stock it should be incredible for (my) purposes.

 

Maybe if the P870DM had gone 18.4" instead, there might be room for two 980 cards

 

Fiji had better crossfire x than Nvidia. This makes a fury nano x2 solution theoretically better, even with limited oc. So this solution, in this machine, would likely trump it (check the fury nano crossfire v 980 v 980 ti benchmarks 4K at stock and oc)

 

Just saw news about Radeon Fury X2. Praying it becomes an option.

 

But CrossFire driver support lags well behind SLI and AMD doesn't have anything like Nvidia Inspector that lets you edit driver profiles. I don't know how many times Inspector saved my behind on my Y500 and enabled IQ well behind anything AMD could do.

 

Not being a good overclocker ruins everything as far as I am concerned. It's doesn't matter if stock it awesome. Everybody gets the pleasure of playing with something stock, and I find zero joy in doing that because it's no longer special... nice, yes... powerful, yes... but still just ordinary. Might as well buy a game console if you're going to be ordinary. At least it's cheaper.

 

Gonna start hitting the gym, fellas. So I can carry this bad boy.

 

Because you like a challenge, this would be one! It took awhile to add overvolt support and hbm oc support. Just because the numbers don't go up in the amount desired doesn't mean no challenge!

 

I CALLED IT

 

There is ALWAYS a catch with NVIDIA because they have a monopoly and don't have to be as awesome as they pretend to be. Knowing the 990M aka mobile GTX 980 doesn't support SLI I no longer care whether it exists... doesn't matter any more.

 

There is an MXM 3.0b version of the 980 ( GT80 has it, GT72 as well I'm assuming) which supports SLI. But it's lower TDP/perf than this single GPU only non MXM-B 980 inside the P870DM. If/when Clevo releases the MXM-B 980 (maybe it's already in P775DM), you should be able to use it, or maybe you can use MSI cards.

 

This is what I probably would be looking towards instead of 980Ms then. Would be better if we don't need to attach VRMs to them this time.

 

For sure it will have less robust power delivery and lower TDP, likely lower clocks and OC headroom as well. But if the GT72 has the MXM-B 980 and it can be OCed to 1421 MHz, that could be promising as long as the Clevo cards are just as robust.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...hoenix-has-arisen.781814/page-3#post-10096237

 

Yeah. I know. That 82c temp throttle though... that's kind of scary for me, since my upgrade plan does involve the worse slave GPU cooling. Hopefully it'll be changed to 92c or something with a modded vBIOS, but I just don't trust nVidia anymore.

 

@Mr. Fox @D2 Ultima never mind, maybe there isn't an MXM-B 980 after all. @XMG confirmed that 980 will only be available in the P775DM and P870DM, not P771DM/P770DM and P75xDM. Which I'm assuming means it's the same oversized PCB again and both P775DM and P870DM are specially designed for it. Perhaps all these notebooks were specially designed around the 980 and are the only ones which will support it:



Not sure what the situation is with the GT72/GT80, maybe it's better there and the 980 cards are actually MXM 3.0b. Or maybe they're BGA.

Temp target isn't 82C. In PCPer's video Ryan was overclocking the GT72 and got up to 86C.

 

It probably just needs some time ot come out, I'm certain.

GT80 has SLI in it it MUST be MXM. We just need to wait for them to come out, eventually.

Interesting. Well for now I assume 92c throttle and we'll have some fun. Now just to wait until they release, and hope they need no extra VRMs, and finally to get them next year after I has a job =D

 

Not necessarily. Aorus is SLI and BGA. Lenovo Y510p/Y500/Y410p/Y400 is BGA+Ultrabay.