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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Vcdechagn

    Vcdechagn Notebook Geek

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    It's not too bad; gamut is a bit limited, but blacks are decent. Also, since it's a TN it can be overclocked to ~100Hz or so (ymmv), something that is not possible with a 60Hz IPS screen.
     
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    Plus being TN the pixel response times can handle that in most scenes too so it can be a nice bump in fluidity.
     
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    And....the screen doesn't fit in the top bezel. ugh. It almost fits, but not quite. The screen itself also did not come with any mounting brackets to screw into the back plastic of the laptop lid like the EDP screen did. I can sort of slide it in there, but it's not held in with anything :(

    Any way to get it to fit or do I need to just shell out another 325 for a motherboard, or see if they'll exchange for a restocking fee?

    I've now been without my laptop for 4 weeks!

    Meaker-Do you sell parts? RJTech doesn't seem to sell a top bezel?

    Edit: I did manage to get it to SORT of fit. I still need a new back bezel and frame to clamp it on to (which looks like it ties into the hinges but I didn't take it apart too much).

    Motherboard was easy enough to replace (for a given value of easy with regards to laptop repairs).

    Still not sure what I'm going to do. I actually like the TN screen better, but of course it doesn't fit properly.

    I would just retire this laptop to being a vmware esx host for my lab but I can't afford a new one right now so I need to figure out what to do....I'll take any suggestions (or anyone who wants an EDP cord, screen and bezel for their LTVS bezel :) )
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Sure; double-sided tape.

    That's actually what all newfangled panels are using when installed in brand new systems. See, without the screw holes it can be made 1mm thinner and that's very, very important ... because ... reasons o_O . Err ... anyway, this TN is an old-fashioned screw type and a bit heavier, but apply a few more strips of tape and it should hold just fine.

    Alternatively; the ZM only has one lid design, so all you're missing is the brackets which your previous eDP didn't use or have (since it had a double-sided tape lcd). So ... source the brackets and you're also good to go. Looks like you can even get away with this $3.39 ersatz as the ZM appears to have a two-part hinge+bracket design, assembled together with two x3 sets of small screws.
     
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    Yeah, because on a DTR laptop 1mm is all that, right? ;)

    Thanks for the good info. I probably need to pull the existing bracket and tape it in or possibly buy the 3.99 brackets. I wasn't sure if tape was ok. Right now the existing bracket adds about a mm of thickness that won't allow it to close. I can pull that easily.

    I have seven children and they homeschool with digital school so I fix a lot of laptops :). But I think all of the ones I've fixed so far have screwed in screens. I've been out of the hardware repair business for anyone but myself and acquaintances for so long I wasn't aware they were taped.

    Now the Asus G73 keyboard...that was taped!
     
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    The DTRs in some ways a slave to the rest of the market often as to what parts are available.
     
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    Well, the parts didn't work. (the asus hinge brackets)

    It looks like all I need are the hinge brackets, though. I can't find a parts list for the 17 inch hinge brackets?

    Anyone on this thread give me the part number? Or a place to order? The brackets in there have a 1mm (ish) piece of metal that makes the whole thing too thick to close properly. Still usable but looks horrible.

    Edit: the hinge/bracket design is 1 part...not two..which I'm sure is the issue. Not too worried about being out 4 bucks but would like to find the right ones.
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    That is unfortunate, since it means replacing the entire hinge (part nrs. 6-33-P701-0L2 and ... -0R2, being 'Left' and 'Right'). And those three screws must be what's keeping the lid affixed to the bracket/hinge, then.

    Tape would be cheaper and easier, though. Or perhaps you could simply dremel off the offending part?
     
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    Yeah. I might just dremel it off. I really, REALLY don't feel like tearing it all the way down again, which is what I'll have to do in order to replace them. And as far as I can tell, there is no place to order them from, either. the only place I found with the part number (which is 7701, not 701, I think) is a place that deals with dealers only.
     
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    Quick question since I´ve been out of the loop lately and haven´t followed discussions regarding this, any chance at all that the 980M in our ZMs can possibly be upgraded, yay or nay?
    Sorry if it´s been discussed to death already.
     
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    Fantastic...so instead of ordering the m.2 Samsung 850 EVO SSD as you gentlemen suggested, I messed up and ordered the normal 2.5" 850 EVO... :oops: :oops:

    Do you anticipate any problem if I have one normal HDD already? Wouldn't like to return it as I need the extra storage space, and it's been sent already so I cannot change it now. HDD is 9mm, understand 850 EVO is 7mm

    Also, I've looking for videos for how to physically install it, as I've never done it before, but found nothing for the P771ZM.

    Thanks for your help!
     
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    No, the performance of both are identical and each SATA device has its own bandwidth (just the total I/O can't exceed the DMI bus as usual).
     
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    Hey all, I've been trying to solve a problem for a the last two days and I haven't been able to, so here I am. I have an NP9773, running premamod and all. This laptop has always been loud, and I had accepted that begrudgingly as the price of owning a unit like this, but I recently discovered that there was a reason why the unit was so loud: cpu_fan fan speed can be changed through hotkey and such, but vga_fan is running at 100% all of the time. This thing is really, really annoying and I can't even use this laptop in public because it's so obnoxiously loud. Has anybody figured out a way to change the speed of the GPU fan? I'm considering just cutting the fan wires and leading them through a 5v PWM controller but this seems stupid. Is there a better way to control it?
     
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    It should not be 100% all the time, try reflashing the bios/ec.
     
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    Unfortunately I just did that a few hours ago; this problem has persisted through multiple BIOS changes :(
     
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    It could be a motherboard issue that the regulator is fixedon max then.
     
  18. jaybee83

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    what are your gpu temps like?
     
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    That's definitely a good possibility. Does FN+1 change both fans for other people, or does it change just the CPU fan? If it's the former then that would have to be the case, otherwise I'm not sure if having access to a working fan controller would fix it.

    I have graphics programs open right now and a secondary monitor plugged in. GPU is at 36C and its maximum temperature is at 38 after 20 minutes of having HWmonitor open. The fan is always at 100%, even if I'm idling. If I turn it on in the morning the fan will immediately jump to 100%. The problem isn't the GPU temperature or the sensor, as far as I can tell.
     
  20. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Have you tried switch around with other power states in Nvidia control panel?
     
  21. rikame

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    I tried the power options in Nvidia control panel and I tried all of the power states in inspector, fan didn't change speed at any point.
     
  22. t456

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    Run HWiNFO and check its rpm readings. If there's no signal then the ec will default to maximum. This can happen due to a loose or broken tachy-wire, which is the third wire on a 3-pin fan (voltage/red and ground/black being the other two).

    The tachometer on the fan itself can also be defective. You might rule out both options by swapping the cpu and gpu fan. No need to screw them down, just connect their cables and leave them dangling or taped down somewhere while you run the system on its side. It'll thermal-throttle after a while, but there's no harm in that.
    That will not work since Clevo uses voltage-controlled fans, not pwm (= 4-pin+) fans. A trim-pot type would do fine, though.
     
  23. IrVan_D_@vaLanc3

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    Hello,
    I want to ask a few question
    about my clevo p770zm.
    Yesterday, I play Berserk and the Band of the Hawk. After around 30 minutes it suddenly crash and shut down. No blue screen, no restart.
    Just simple turn black and done.
    Because I was so sleepy, I don't bother to check about anything.

    Today, when I try to boot my clevo, it didn't turn on. The power icon lamp is only blinking green just like in "sleep mode". It doesn't charge when I plug the ac adaptor. The Ac adapter even making some strange sound.
    It doesn't show the blinking green when I unplug the Ac adapter.
    At first I though my battery is empty, but after realizing the blinking green I though my laptop when to sleep mode. I even try pressing fn+f12 instead of power button.
    Then I try to unplug the ac adapter and battery then hold for 15, 30, 60 sec and even 5 minutes. it's not working.
    I try googling and asking around, they ask me to test my ac adapter. I can't test my ac adapter in my country by try it on another laptop because 4 pin adapter is rare in my country. Some even say it's motherboard malfunction.

    Please Help, if you need me to provide video for better understanding, please say so.

    Thanks
     
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    If you can't test it then it will need to go back to the reseller.
     
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    Thanks for fast respond.
    I guess that's my last option.
     
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    Hi., everyone
    I have encounter a problem with Control Center for not being able to run in startup. I updated my Windows 10 64bit before and the Control Center and Hotkey were able to run at startup, but now it's no longer running anymore, thus it makes the keyboard lit in blue as default. I set the lights off so that the keyboard won't lit everytime I turn on the laptop. Now, I have to manually run the Control Center and also Gamefeet.exe (FlexiKey) to turn off the light and the shortcut Function does not work. I also realized both Control Center and Flexikey are no longer in Taskbar Tray.

    So far, I have tried uninstall the program, reboot, reinstall the Control Center that I still have on PC that I downloaded from Clevo website (Hotkey AP 3.20.35) long ago, but still it won't appear when startup. I did check the list of startup, and HkeyTray appears on the list, but the startup issue still occur.

    I would like to know if I really require to install the latest version of Hotkey for Windows 10, which I need a link for that, or do I have to do some registry tweaking or system settings or installing something else, which I hope I need a proper guide or else I will mess up the system file.
     
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    Have you double checked your windows startup options?
     
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    I checked the startup option and Hkeytray definitely there. I don't know if it has something to do with startup impact which shows "Not measured", but I can't change anything about it.
    [​IMG]

    I have also enable "Run this program as admin" for Hkeytray.exe and the other Control Center and Hotkey, but again it won't run at startup.
     
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    will your gtx1070/gtx1080 cards be compatibile with p770zm?
     
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    Try downloading the latest version if you are still having issues.
     
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    Hey all, two new questions.

    1. I have asked around, including among professional IT folks, and none of them seemed to know the answer to this (in fact, they all still seemed both surprised and confused at the question). Ethernet ports have a physical mechanism (in this case it's shaped aluminum I believe) on the rim of the port that locks the plastic tab on an RJ45 male connector in-place. I managed to rip mine out. Ethernet cables work but do not lock in-place and slip out easily now. Does anybody know how/if I can replace this?

    2. I know that this has been discussed earlier but I'm still confused, regarding upgrading the GPU to Pascal, is there any way to know what is compatible? That is, does anybody know of a good resource for finding diagrams, specifications, etc., of mobile graphic cards? I have a 970M and I'd rather upgrade to a newer-gen card than spend $600 on the Maxwell upgrade.

    Also, I fixed my fan problem, kind of. It's not spinning at max now but I still cannot control it and I don't even know where along the way I got it to spin at a more reasonable speed. I still have good GPU temps (it was the GPU-side fan) when running Fire Strike Extreme so as far as I'm concerned it's good haha.
     
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    It's just shaped piece of plastic in the roof so when you push it in the back bit of the tab sits up and in. You would need to get the port de-soldered and solder in a new one.
     
  34. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    you can use pascal gpus. Eurocom Gtx1070/gtx1080 mxm 3.0b should be available for november.
    Check my signature for more infos
     
  35. akm

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    I have a P770ZM laptop. Since morning, I have been facing a problem with the battery charging. The system continuously shows the battery status as 0% available (plugged in, charging), but the battery is not getting charged. If I disconnect the Power Adapter , the system does not power ON with the battery. Is the battery dead or something wrong with the motherboard? Could anyone suggest if this problem could be solved?
     
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    Try resetting the EC by removing the power and battery.

    Then download a battery health monitor to see if anything odd is being reported.
     
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    Resetting the EC did not help.

    I tried BatteryMon to see the Battery status and it did not show any meaningful information. I also tried running in the command prompt powercfg /batteryreport, to generate a report on the battery, but the command failed.
     
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    When you say it did not show any meaningful information does that mean it's not even detected?
     
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    The system is able to detect the battery as it shows 0% available (plugged in, charging). BatteryMon was able to detect the battery as having 82Wh capacity. It was not showing any live statistics like battery level. I tried BatteryMon and had uninstalled it before I posted here, so I do not have it installed on my system. Otherwise I would have posted a screenshot of the application. I can install it again if you suggest.
     
  40. black007

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    hello, can our clevo p770zm-g support gtx1070/1080 mxm ?
     
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    There aren't tests yet. May be zotac or eurocom cards
     
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    It's hard to say if it's the battery or charging circuit then without testing a 2nd battery.
     
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    By charging circuit, do you mean a problem with the Motherboard or the Power Adapter? If there is any test to check if the charging circuit does not have a problem, then it will be a relief as I'll just have to arrange for a new battery.
     
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    That's what I was trying to get an idea of, with the storms you describe it's likely the battery but I'm not 100% sure.
     
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    sorry, may i know p770zm m.2 slot is b or m or b&m type ngff?
     
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    NGFF = Next generation form factor = M.2

    Read the original post for specs.
     
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    Hello everyone,

    I’m new around so first thing to do is to salute everyone and congratulate you for the hard work and fellowship.

    Now my cry for help!

    I have a Clevo P770ZM since January 2015. When I bought it, the seller, Clevo Center from Porto in Portugal, told me that the laptop could run an M.2 SDD for the system, but I opted for the regular SSD because of the high price them of the M.2 SSD modules. But I always had in mind the upgrade.

    Last June, I finally bought an Samsung SSD M.2 2280 Samsung 960 Evo 250GB TLC V-NAND NVMe, but after struggling for hours trying to make the BIOS to recognize the dam thing, I run into a post in this forum by saturnotaku dated from July 2016 that confirmed that it was possible but I needed a new BIOS by Prema.

    I remembered then that the seller, Clevo Center, did had an upgrade BIOS item in the website so I contacted them to request assistance to do the upgrade of the BIOS and, by the way, request an RAM upgrade and an a full maintenance.

    The first answer from the seller, via chat (you can’t contact them by phone) was that this computer didn’t recognize this M.2 module (note that they sell this exact module on their shop!!), and when I confronted them with the information they gave me 2 years ago and the information on your forum, they told me that they were goanna contact the BIOS programmer (I’m guessing PREMA?!?), to get the BIOS version for my laptop, and them contact me to proceed to the upgrade.

    I didn’t got any news after, and I’ve tried to contact them 3 more times and they simply don’t respond.

    I’ve tried to find the BIOS from PREMA to upgrade the bios myself, but, nowadays its practically impossible.

    All I need is to get in touch with PREMA to request the BIOS, or, if someone in this forum has the BIOS version I need it would make me a very happy girl!!! J J

    Thank all for the patience of reading this long, long post!!!

    Best regards,


    Margarida


    PS: If anyone is thinking of buying a CLEVO from CLEVO Center in Potugal, don’t do it, they have the worst after sale assistance in the world, and they erase the bad reviews in their website.
     
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    It would be @Prema you are looking for. Just be aware he is very busy.
     
  49. Margarida Garcia

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    Thanks Meaker!

    I'm goona try leaving a request on the thread " Prema BIOS questions"

    :)
     
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    hi all
    Laptop lcd got fractured and I am replacing it today. Is there a special way to remove the plastic border around the lcd protector? I have all tabs removed except where the hinges are - it feels like there is a screw there and I do not want to force it. https://imgur.com/a/Og1py
    [​IMG]
     
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