*** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

Specs and images below for this desktop CPU based 17" laptop beast!












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CPU
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4790 Processor (3.6GHz), 8MB L3 Cache
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4790K Processor (4.0GHz), 8MB L3 Cache
Core Logic
Intel® Z97 Express Chipset
Display
17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finished Surface
Memory
Supports Dual Channel DDR3
Four 204Pin SODIMM sockets, support for DDR3L 1600MHz* (Real operation frequency depends on FSB of processor)
Expandable up to 32GB, depends on 4GB/8GB SODIMM module (32 bit OS editions have a memory limitation of 2.8GB.
Other hardware or application limitations may further prevent use of all installed memory.)
Graphics Processor
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 970M GPU with 6GB GDDR5 or
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M GPU with 8GB GDDR5
Microsoft® DirectX® 12 Compatible
Support PCIe x16
MXM3.0 Type B
NVIDIA® PhysX® Technology
NVIDIA® CUDA™ Technology
NVIDIA® Quadro™ K1100M GPU with 2GB GDDR5 or
NVIDIA® Quadro™ K3100M GPU with 4GB GDDR5 or
NVIDIA® Quadro™ K5100M GPU with 8GB GDDR5
Microsoft® DirectX® 11.2 Compatible
Support PCIe x16
MXM3.0 Type B
NVIDIA® PhysX® Technology
NVIDIA® CUDA™ Technology
Storage
Two changeable 2.5” 7mm(H)/9.5mm(H) HDD/SSD, SATA interface (RAID 0/1 support)
(Factory Option) Two M.2 2280 SSD (RAID 0/1 support), SATA interface or Two M.2 2280 SSD, PCIe interface
Sound System
High Definition audio interface
S/PDIF digital output
Built-in Array Microphone
Built-in two 2W Onkyo speakers
Sound Blaster™ X-FI® MB3
External 7.1CH audio output supported by headphone, microphone, Line-in and S/PDIF jack
ANSP™ 3D sound technology on headphone output
Keyboard
Full color illuminated full size keyboard with numeric pad and anti-ghost keys
Fully programmable macro capability – customize individual key as hot key / multiple keystrokes in one key
W/A/S/D gaming key
Pointing Device
Integrated touchpad with multi-gesture and scrolling function
I/O Ports
1 HDMI™ output Port (with HDCP)
2 DisplayPort 1.2 output Ports
4 USB 3.0 Ports (1 x powered USB port, AC/DC)
1 eSATA/USB 3.0 combo Port
1 Headphone Jack
1 Microphone Jack
1 Line-in Jack
1 S/PDIF output jack
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)
Slots
6-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
Three M.2 Card Slots,
- 1st for WLAN Combo M.2 2230 Card with PCIe and USB interface.
- 2nd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe x2/x4 interface.
- 3rd for SSD M.2 2280 Card with SATA / PCIe x2 interface.
Communication
Built-in Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n wireless LAN + Bluetooth™ V4.0 + LE Combo M.2 2230 Card module or
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265, 2x2 AC +BT M.2 2230 (Stone Peak 2) or
Intel® Wireless-N 7265, 2x2 BGN +BT M.2 2230 (Stone Peak 2) or
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160, 1x1 AC +BT M.2 2230 Card modules (Wilkins Peak 1) or
Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC N1525, 2x2 AC + BT M.2 1630 Card modules
Other Features
Rubber Painting
Built-in 2.0M FHD Video Camera
Intel® Rapid Start Technology
Intel® Smart Response Technology
Power
Full Range 230W AC Adapter AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, DC output 19.5V, 11.8A
Removable 8 cell Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 82WH
Security
Kensington® Lock Integrated
Finger print
OS Support
Windows® 8.1 (64-bit)
Certificate
Windows® 8 (64-bit) Logo
HDMI Logo
Dimension
16.46" (w) x 11.10" (d) x 1.52" (h)
8.6 lbs. including Bare bone and Battery Pack

 

Are you going to be reviewing one by chance HT?

 

aaah very nice, good job wingnut! finally the 17inchers have a home to call their own

 

So what do we call this? The "Fat Bat"? Maybe the "Adam West" version? Or Spongebob Mermaidman? lulz

 

Hmmmmmm...this is the Batman, the other 15" the Robin!

Wish they would have a P77xZM3 version!

BTW, like your new Avatar HT.

 

Sadly, I'm probably the one guy left who uses the optical drive almost daily I would love the 4790k for encoding.

 

Exactly my thoughts Jaybee :thumbsup:

 

Is it a TN screen? What about the keyboard? Is it like the old p170em or the new updated one?

 

You can get some really nice external ones.

 

Which doesn't work well for me. 99% of the time I'm using my laptop in my lap on my lapdesk with no where to put an external drive, especially when using it nonstop. I mostly use the laptop when I get out of my wheelchair and into my recliner to relax, otherwise I bust out the tablet. I've tried the external route, it's just not useable, thanks though I want this laptop with no 2.5" drive bays and an optical drive, is that too much to ask for

 

Definitely interested to hear about the quality of the panel in this model. Trying to decide between this version and the 15" version and I am just concerned about the response times of the IPS panels in the 15" models (especially in the FHD LG model)

 

Duct tape one on the back of the display - profit

 

Well, it's been an interesting couple of days. I've been dealing with two Sager resellers re: the NP9772. I noticed a price differential of about $100 between the two for the nearly identical configuration. So I reached out to the cheaper of the two, and asked for some information on the screen...like, which one is it? What are the specs? Because I've noticed that the pre-order screens are very "vanilla" in their descriptions of the screens.

I was told that, because the item is a pre-order, there was no info available on the screen, and that they would be offering what was on hand at the time...and he told me that maybe I should wait until the laptop is actually out of pre-order status. He could not even guarantee that it would not be a 60% gamut screen.

I guess I have no choice, really. The screen is pretty important (after all, it's what you look at when using the darn thing). But I am kind of surprised that the screen model and specs are unknowns.

If there is a vendor out there that knows exactly what it is offering in the way of screens, my money is waiting...if the price is right.

 

Sager are pretty tight lipped as they can source their own parts for machines and it may depend on what is available at launch.

 

Edit: Sorry, info for the wrong model posted earlier.

 

That's a shame, Meaker. I can't see allocating $2K on faith alone.

Also, I just did more searching...and I found are two vendors out there who have multiple screen offering right now. I just researched these vendors, and it seems that they have a reputation for charging a little more than others...but I'm off to their configurators to find out for sure.

Seems you beat me to it, alaskajoel!

 

Mythlogic is offering "17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) Matte 72% NTSC Color Gamut LED Backlit LCD" as an upgrade, not sure if that's what you're after or not

 

Do we anticipate being able to get a 1440p or 2k display on this?

 

AlaskaJoel and SystemXS: The companies you mentioned are the two that I found as well. Let me be clear: I'm not knocking either company, but after I finished my configuration I found that Mythlogic's price was a little bit higher than the original two companies I reached out to, although I feel Mythlogic's may be justified for the screen upgrade...and as for Eurocom...well...let's just say they have enticing options all around, but their price, no matter what screen choice, is not something I could justify paying.

I won't buy a Sager without a 3 year warranty. I learned that lesson, and almost the hard way, by spending $3600 circa 2005 on an NP9860 and having the motherboard fry just before the 1 year warranty was up (many other owners were not so lucky). Even the Dell M6600 that I'm using now had the video card go south on me about 4 months before the 3 year mark...the warranty saved me, and Dell basically replaced the entire internals, including the motherboard. If they had a laptop with a desktop processor I'd go with Dell again...but they don't. Some companies are offering a 3 year warranty on the NP9772 for $199; Mythlogic's is $200; Eurocom's is $344??

Most companies offer the 970 as the base video card...Eurocom's base is a 965M and the 970M is an upgrade? They stay in business for a reason...is it their quality assurance/service? Maybe their abundance of options? Once again, not knockin' 'em...never bought from them...don't know much about them. Maybe it's the exchange rate between $USD and $CAD??

In any event, I'd like to see more screen options, and pay a reasonable price, before I buy. Other recent laptops have had a plethora of screen choices...this one not so much...yet.

 

You are comparing business class machine (M6600) with consumer one, which is not exactly fair. You are not only buying it for the build quality, but the warranty support you were so happy with. Hence they command quite the price premium when new.

 

Wow. Not buying for the build quality or warranty support? Don't get me wrong...I realize my Dell is a business class machine...but I better be getting some damn good build quality out of the new Sager as well, and if I pay for a 3 year warranty, I better be getting some damn good support there, too.

The problem with the Sager 9860 was that they released it with inadequate cooling for the components they put in it. Research it...story after story about how they were dying left and right just after the one year standard warranty period. Sager/Clevo has had a lot of time to learn from that costly (for the consumer) mistake, and from what I have read about the P570WM3 (which I had wanted at one point last year, but was concerned about paying that price for an EOL due to it's incompatibility with Xeon V3's and upcoming processors, and not being sure if it would be able to handle the latest video cards), there haven't been massive motherboard and video card failures due to inadequate cooling issues (like the 9860 suffered). But I digress, because my point was that no matter what laptop I get, my personal experience tells me that a 3 year warranty is non-negotiable.

Back to the NP9772. While I'm not crazy that the cpu will only be upgradeable for one more Intel "tick" cycle (so probably not much will be gained in the way of performance vs. the energy savings from the die shrink), to get this kind of CPU performance from a laptop at this low cpu price...which is superior to the performance of the top extreme mobile processor at a ridiculous cpu price...and with my Dell's 2820QM dragging me down now...is too enticing to pass-up.

 

hi,
i would like to know if there is any difference between the clevo P770ZM and the clevo P771ZM.
thanks in advantage

 

The P771ZM is the "European model" (for lack of a better term), and only differs cosmetically (I read something somewhere about chrome accents on the exhaust grills).

 

hello,
which is better , this model or the NP9377-S ??
one has SLI and the other a desktop CPU, but which one is better for gaming and upgradability ??
I was ready to get the NP9377-S with 980 SLI. but now I am confused.
please help a newb.

 

It is a shame the screen wont be an IPS screen like on the 15" and wont be as good either. Doubt the 17" will have additional screen upgrade like the 4K for example.

 

There are no 17" 4k panels, so...

 

Intel chips have never been upgradeable for more than one tick cycle. Heck you're lucky to get from tock to tick or tick to tock at all any more.

Sager/Clevo has come a long way over the years, but they're still consumer class laptops with consumer class components. It's like with insurance, you either pay up front with minimal/no risk, or you pay cheaply (relatively speaking) and assume the risk. Read the terms of the warranty: Sager Custom Laptops

The cost of the warranty is minimal compared with any other OEM, and considering the potential for failures, highly advisable to buy at least the two year. Sager turnaround is pretty quick and their techs, from my experience, are quite adept at addressing issues.

 

What he said...

 

For a gamer the SLI 980M will out pace the P770ZM. If getting one you may want to consider an external monitor for home use to get the most out of the 980M SLI.

 

Consider this: the P570WM was compatible with everything from a 4 core I7-3820 to a 12 core Xeon E5-2697v2: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2009&cmp[]=8.


Now THAT's cpu upgradeability! Sure...it comes at a price...but the option to greatly boost performance is there. This laptop, like most others, won't give you that option. I'd love to see a P570WM successor...but until I do, the NP9772 is the best option...for me.

 

It helps that it's a server orientated platform rather than desktop or notebook.

 

Well, it came in a server flavor (Xeons) as well as a desktop flavor (4960X). I believe it was classified as a "DTR", just like the 9772. Now I get that there are all other sorts of considerations, like battery life, portability, and weight. To each his own, as they say.

I think that the 9772 is a great concept...in theory (i.e., until it is released and we see some stellar reviews!). But the lack of screen info/options is stopping me from being an early adopter. I'm sensing that if I hold off, more options will become available, and I simply base that on the fact that many other recent Sager 17" laptops have had options.

 

I mean the X79 as a whole is a server platform that happened to be released for desktop users (and in one case a notebook) it has the same expectations as the server market in terms of upgradability and cadence of release that is different from even the regular desktop market.

 

I don't think X79 was once marketed as a "server chipset" by Intel. It was designed and marketed for enthusiasts, heavy media users, and workstations, but that's not the same thing. The C200 series on the other hand, was the socket 2011 server/workstation dedicated chipset.

On that same note, it would be nice to see X99 in a laptop

 

Hi guys!
I'm considering a Clevo P771ZM based system with an Intel Core i7-4790K.
The mainboard chipset is an Intel Z97.
What should I do in order to overclock the 4790K safely?
What RAM should I buy? According to Intel[1] the 4790K was made to run on DDR3-1333/1600.
The mainboard though uses DDR3L SO-DIMM. Yes, that's a desktop CPU on a laptop mainboard.
Will I benefit using a faster memory (DDR3L 1866MHz or 2133MHz)? How much faster will the system get? Any benchmarks?
What temperatures should I expect? Will it meltdown the chassis?

[1] Intel® Core™ i7-4790K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz)

 

yupyup the 7x1 series sport black matte exhaust grills and are mainly available in europe, whereas the 7x0 have chrome exhaust grills and are sold in asia/north america

the p77xZM also supports xeon cpus, but unfortunately they have locked multipliers, so very limited overclocking through the bclk, if at all. also, its nice to know well most likely be able to upgrade to broadwell cpus down the line

 

I'm with you on all of that, SystemXS! You just KNOW it's going to happen...!?! Heck, as for me, and not being as avid a gamer as I gather most of the others reading this thread are, I say ditch the dual gpus and give me dual cpus!!

 

This question is for any XOTIC PC reps that may be here: Your screen "selection" (there is only one choice, so not really a selection) for the NP9772 contains this language: "17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - SSC002)".

That "SKU" must refer to a particular screen (no other reason for it to be there...?)...so...can you give us some specs??

Thanks!

 

Anyone have any idea on how the notebook's cooling will cope with the heat of a desktop 4970k?

 

X79 is a spin off of the c200 chipset and server platform. All releases are tied to it so it behaves and updates like a server platform.

 

based on the data we have thus far id say that with stock thermal paste and no mods ull be more than able to use the 4790k for gaming, but once u want to use it for cpu intensive stuff itll go into the 90s pretty quickly. so best to repaste, prop up laptop, fans on max and delid, off u go into cool performance heaven

 

I've asked Schenker why they don't offer the 4790K (they do have 4790S and 4790T) and they told me it's because the TDP (88W) is too DAMN high!!!-- lol
I'm also curious about what's gonna happen with this particular configuration. Will it meltdown?

 

It may be environment and paste job dependant.

 

schenker themselves do admit that the 4790k does not throttle, although the temps are north of most people's comfort zone. thats why im staying optimistic in being able to tame this beast with some tweaking

 

I think tweaking holds a lot of potential too

 

I look forward to your dry ice mod.

 

I don't see how the heatpipes can possible provide adequate cooling to a 4790k. My 4770k needs serious cooling to stay cool. Delidding will help a lot, 10C-20C can by lost by delidding, but that is not without risks either. I delidded my 3770k without any trouble, but my 4770k doesn't need it. I think the real ticket on these laptops will be undervolting. Run the stock clocks, and undervolt till you get instability. That will probably be more useful than overclocking. The temps are going to be bananas.

Overclock.net has tons of great info on delidding for those who are interested.

 

Someone mod me one of these with no 2.5" drive slots and an optical drive, stat.

 

Use a slim external one via usb they are not big.

 

Can't really delid unless you use a shim of some sort. There would be a gap between the CPU and heatsink.