*** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

No AUO 4k 100%AdobeRGB?

 

Still not a word from Sager on the DM models, the funny thing is I expect their models to be the best priced for my region so maybe their hanging back for that reason and you know I'll wait for them anyway . I was hoping for this laptop already but now with all the other thunderbolt 3 offerings and new OC mobile chips like the super afforfdable value 6820hk perhaps all this is working out in my favor since it will increase competetion. I want the DM but I also want a fair price !

 

thats a big if though...considering non-jedec unidimm 260 pin ddr3 sticks will most probably be rare as heck, i cant fathom them being that cheap... probably more expensive than regular run of the mill ddr4 sodimms

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I just pulled the trigger and ordered the Phobos 1715S (Clevo P770DM) from you guys about 20 minutes ago! Then I jump on here and see a post from you, how cool. I'm so excited.

 

Anyone hear anything about the new Intel 8260 Wireless AC that's coming in my new DM? I can hardly find anything about it in the way of actual reviews but I'm assuming that's because it looks like it just came out a few months ago maybe?

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Its just a follow on to the 7265, just a slightly newer evolution, shouldn't have anything too exciting on it, besides better native Win 10 support, etc. Otherwise its a 2x2 AC card with BT. It'll wirelessly connect to things lol

 

I was disappointed when AC 8260 was announced. I was expecting a 3x3 card I can upgrade to to finally make use of my AC1750 router but it's no improvement over AC 7260/7265.

 

You would have been really disappointed then, if they would have gone 3x3, there isn't in the Clevo spec for the 3rd antenna so wouldn't have done much good anyway.

 

Heard back from a Myth rep... Website configure page has been updated. Refresh the page on your browser if you don't see it.

Looks like they let the forum know, too. Thanks Myth!!

 

My 1715-G (ZM) is wired, so the Killer E2200 LAN on the DM is interesting to me. The day I picked it up from UPS, I saw that the outer box was, slightly creased but everything inside was great. A box in a box in a box. Mythlogic packed it really well, tons of peanuts. . I almost hated cutting the Gargoyle packing tape.

 

Awesome, great to hear another good review from Mythologic. I've had great pre-order customer service in the way of asking them questions about the ZM all the way up to my purchase today of the DM. I'm hoping there aren't any connection breaking wifi issues with the Intel 8260 because I don't have anywhere to plug in so it's wireless for me all the way. I think with it being 3rd Gen I should be in a good spot.

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Hey, Myth) Any news on P870DM laptop? 17" 4K G-Sync panel?)

 

Red Line, I don't know if you've seen this, but jump over to this thread - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...hes-expectations.775918/page-91#post-10089038 where they're discussing the very same thing.

 

yeah, i've seen it, tnx) only hoped Myth can shed some light as a system builder, while they appeared here for a sec, cause no one knows the launch date of this beast just yet...

better switch to the other thread then

 

People knowing and people being able to say are two requirements that usually cancel each other out

 

Yeah,

We only know the P870DM will be first, and then its 4K panel will come "after", when "after" is and when "first" is, we don't have a good idea on that yet, other than we hope it'll be before the end of the year, but thats literally just a guess based on what we know so take it with a massive grain of salt.

 

Alright good folks, I am just about ready to preorder my own P750DM, I'll be going the barebones route from rjtech, the only part that I'll be missing to complete my build will be the Skylake cpu, I'll probably wait for the core i7 variant to come back into stock at Newegg, or if that takes too long I'll just buy the regular core i5, the i5 is cheaper than the i7...

But if someone can help me out, I've been trying to read up on Nvidia g-sync to figure out if I care for it or not...
I understand that typically if I were to build a g-sync enabled desktop computer, I would need a graphics adapter that supports g-sync and then also a monitor that supports it, correct?
Now if I buy a Clevo laptop with the g-sync feature, am I to assume that the lcd panel that is built into the laptop will support Nvidia g-sync?
What about the aftermarket lcd panels that support 4k resolution?
I don't ever recall on my existing laptops or my desktop computer thinking "man, this video game is really fun to play, but the graphical smearing is ruining my experience!"
Maybe it's like when someone listens to a regular mp3 from their smartphone with regular headphones, but then someone who qualifys as a "audiophile" cringes at the poor quality of the mp3 and only uses high quality audio equipment...
If your favorite video game renders just fine, why add more features to try to improve something that works fine without it?
Or will the Clevo P750DM be that much better with the g-sync feature?

 

I wonder how gamers one year before could play without g-sync. Seems to be impossible nowadays...

 

Apart from having a supported internal screen you will also need to order with the g-sync version of the GPU or the feature won't work...

 

That's why I'm trying to figure out if the g-sync version of the P750DM comes with lcd panel that is g-sync enabled...
Or if I buy the P750DM g-sync barebone are they assuming that you will use a separate g-sync monitor?
Because as of this moment I'm not planning on buying another monitor...

 

a gsync barebone would have a gsync enabled panel and a gsync gpu preinstalled. unless the vendor doesnt know what hes doing/advertizing, but i doubt thats the case with rjtech

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Sounds great, except wouldn't this be best served in a laptop that is meant to be more portable and run off battery more often? I mean I'm glad they're doing this finally, but for these new P7xxx models they aren't really meant to run on battery. Hope to see this feature in other upcoming laptops as well though.

 

So I'm reading on the wiki page for g-sync that the lcd panel itself does not need the module because the graphics card is directly connected to the lcd panel.
So otherwise is the feedback on Clevo and g-sync positive?

 

I have had no issue installing Windows on an M.2 drive on ZM or on my desktop. Neither were NVMe however. But it installed without a hitch.

 

Does anyone know if the DM will accept 2x 9.5 mm hard drives? Trying to find a hard drive that I know will fit, but don't know if the DM (and previously the ZM) fit 2 9.5mm drives.

 

Yes, it will just as the ZM did.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=806&lang=en

 

Of course, yes - it is still a useful feature in the P7**DM, but no one is saying that it will be a feature ONLY in this chassis ;-)

 

Yes, but is some one ^^ saying it will be in other models?

 

Thanks, I ordered a P770DM from Mythlogic and asked them to install Windows 10 on the SM951 I ordered so I should be good to go.

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Edit

This is correct.

 

Hrrrm! The m.2, PCIe x4 version? That caught my eye because their configurator stipulates

"(REQUIRES mSATA for Bootable Drive)"

if you don't pick anything in the HDD slots, which suggested to my possibly over-literal mind that if you weren't filling either HDD slot that one of the m.2 slots needed to be an older-school SATA III drive rather than NVMe PCIe x4 to be bootable.

 

I'll take your word for it as an owner. I have the P770ZM. I'd suspect the P750DM would be the same.

 

Wow scratch that, my mistake. I was thinking of the P650.

The Batman does indeed fit 9.5mm drives.

Need to get more sleep.

 

Anyone happen to know when the Mushkin Hyperion will be available?

 

Yeah lots of people have used the 951 as their boot drive, not sure about the NVMe version because it's not widely available but I spoke with someone who was selling them on eBay and he said he had installed Windows 10 on a few of them with no problem, as long as the bios supports it.

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moviemarketing, read speed looks good, but the write speeds are kinda slow, at least I hope there are products with write speed closer matching to the read speeds - if your destination isn't fast enough to write as fast as the source speed, the source speed excess is wasted.

 

Will the cooling solution be able to cool an i7 6700 with a 65W TDP? Or will it overheat a lot?

 

1.2GBps seq / 300,000 IOPS 4k random write is considered slow these days?

In that case, what is a good nvme PCIe drive to shoot for with the DM? Was planning to get two of the 1TB Hyperions, raid them and call it a day.

 

The i5 6500 is going to have 65W TDP, as where the i7 6700k is going to be 91W TPD.

http://ark.intel.com/products/88184/Intel-Core-i5-6500-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz

Even at 91W, it isn't that much more than the 4790k that is being offered now, so it should still be fine. Lowering temps with a better thermal paste, or possibly a cooling pad, is always a good idea though.

 

sequential write is not important, rather look at the 4K speeds at 300.000 iops, thats more than 4 times as much as the sm951

a 65 W cpu wont overheat under any circumstances in the ZM/DM series. my machine came preinstalled with an i5-4460S (65W tdp). i tested the crap out of it before switching it with a 4790K (88W TDP) and i had "trouble" getting it to even break 70C under heavy load in prime95

the DM will be the same, so no worries

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moviemarketing, it's not that 1.2GB/sec Write is particularly slow, it's that the Read speed is 2.33x faster than the Write speed.

So Reading from 1 drive at 2.8GB/sec will block on Writes to another drive at 1.2GB/sec.

When looking to purchase any SSD's we are looking for balanced Read/Write characteristics.

Early SSD's of other interfaces had fast Read speeds with much slower Write speeds, and then more balanced R/W models are introduced.

The M.2 PCIe NVME drive to get may not have been announced yet.

 

Pat, I was wondering about that, it's unlikely Clevo got it wrong listing 95w vs the Intel listed 91w, I wonder if Clevo is shipping them with the TDP boosted to 95w?

Clevo P870DM Specifications
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/p870dm-b_v2-0-without-pdf.127609/

 

Sounds great! However, where I am, ambient temperatures can reach 35C and be considered normal while reviews on the P75xZMs were in 20C temperatures and had some heating issues so, I am a little worried.

 

that i 110% agree with next year should be very interesting in that regard with intel's xpoint premiering in m.2 drives thats what ill be waiting for to swap out my trusty 850 pro

thats a valid point! the ambient temp during my testing was around 20-25C. considering that, ud still only reach around 10-15C higher temps than in my case, thus u could expect a max. of 85C in unrealistically heavy stress situations such as prime95 for prolonged periods of time. and thats with stock paste, auto fans and machine not propped up for improved air flow.

so 85C worst case in my book is totally fine. no worries, buddy!

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We need a generation or two of controllers that wont burn out when operating that fast and the NAND chips capable of keeping up properly.

 

Prema said the target Clevo is looking for with the 6700K is 4.5GHz so it would make sense it has a higher TDP rating.

 

Or it's a simple typo of course, I expect these things to be adjustable by the user so the stock values wont be hugely important to tweakers.

 

It can currently cope with a 88W TDP CPU, so I'm sure it will do just fine with a 65W CPU.

My Batman has a 80W Xeon in it, and it cools it just as well as any other laptops cools its mobile CPU. Very good cooling system in place.

 

Yes that's why this machine is a bit larger and heavier, so it can properly cool it. It's not some throw away acer machine

 

That would make sense in that case if they are trying to get more from it, but I suppose we will have to wait and see until someone can get one hands-on to check it out.