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N970TC



https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1179&lang=en
Key Features

• 9th & 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 17.3” FHD 144Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® Enthusiast Graphics Card
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports(1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

Clevo N970TD

Key Features

• 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 17.3” FHD 144Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 2060 + 6GB GDDR6
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports(1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

N970TF


Key Features

• 9th & 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 17.3” FHD 144Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 2070 + 8GB GDDR6
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-Color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports(1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

VideoReviews

 

Have this notebook a 144hz display? https://www.gamingguru.de/guru-moon-rtx.html#1cedbcae4f6370605f9b9fd5dc7dce71

 

Usually I'd it does not say the refresh rate it is 60Hz, speak to the reseller.

 

Do you know if any larger power supplies are compatible with this laptop?

 

Any reason why? I believe 230w is the maximum size with the barrel type connector.

 

I see. I was debating on buying the RTX 2070 model and some of my work requires CPU and GPU usage at 100% simultaneously

 

The brick is rated to allow that.

 

N970TC
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1179&lang=en
Key Features

• 9th & 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 17.3” FHD 144Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® Enthusiast Graphics Card
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports(1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

 

first chinese video review :


and again a review page in chinese (use google translator)

https://tech.sina.com.cn/n/t/2019-02-21/doc-ihrfqzka7722502.shtml
and their forum for more photos from users laptops & evaluations and chats:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/6025874389

RTX2070 115W Unlocked --> ~70'c :

the display is:
cmn173hhe-g32 and color gamut 100% sRGB, 85% NTSC, 89% AdobeRGB
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the heatsink& pipes used are looks like:

with stress-test for both cpu+gpu, the temps for a 65W cpu,i5 8400 6cores/6threads + RTX 2070 reaches 77'c; the cpu clocks reached 3.9ghz all cores.

 

How loud get this laptop under load?

 

Clevo N970TC / N970TD / N970TF

Key Features

• 9th & 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor (65W TDP)
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 17.3” FHD 144Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 1660Ti + 4GB GDDR6 (N970TC)
• NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 2060 + 6GB GDDR6 (N970TD)
• NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 2070 + 8GB GDDR6 (N970TF)
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-Color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports(1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

Resellers:

• Eluktronics
• CLEVO Computer

Reviews:

• N970TF on YouTube by @B0B

The main advantage of this model to me is the 65W desktop processor setup using hybrid graphics combined with mini-DisplayPort connectors for both the UHD630 GPU and Nvidia dedicated GPU. This allows the machine to function well as a dual purpose work / gaming machine with great alternative OS support and performance. I intend to triple boot Linux / MacOS / Windows 10 and will post feedback on each experience.

 

The 9900 non K will be interesting to see how far 65w gets you.

 

Not sure if it's really important. You can get 9900K and set power limit 1 to 65W and call it a day. At least with K version you can adjust multipliers to what ever the value you want.

Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk

 

Why does that matter in a locked platform? I mean you could test it I suppose but I've not seen the results yet.

 

It's doing no harm. But problem is these locked 9" series will run hotter because STIM (soldered interface) only available with unlocked K cpus.

Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk

 

So far the performance is great. I did both a stock and 95mV undervolt run.

Actually I also have a 9900k, but at the suggestion of Eluktronics I picked up the locked i9-9900 for use in the machine. The bios only enforces the TDP limit specified by the processor, and does not have a setup menu option to override PL1. I am not sure if the VRM can handle the 95W TDP but it would likely thermal throttle before it even gets to that limit.

 

At 65W it should not matter.

 

sorry, this thread is usuless. please delete it

 

Merged both N970Tx threads, that way no posts are lost. Used yours as the base thread since it was the older one.

 

Looking forward to see the thermals on the i7 version

 

WOWWWWWW i9-9900 stress test at low 80? Seems too good to be true!!!

 

Yeah, thats correct. I had one with an i9-9900 and it had no trouble cooling the 65W CPU.

 

Nice big die with the same TDP so it's still good

 

Does anyone have a unlocked bios, or the latest bios by chance?

 

The latest will be from your reseller. No unlocked ones that I know of as there would be little point.

 

Indeed, only older bios's out there. Reseller has no interest in supplying bios.

Why "little point"? Can list quite a few disabled settings that would greatly enhance the system.

 

What sort of settings?

 

Xmp is by far the most annoying option not to have. Forcing me to use Xtu to set my profile is absurd.

I overclock as a hobby over at hwbot. Laptops prove to be the greatest challenge, due to tdp limitations, and just the sheer amount of cooling available. Hell had the laptop 30 minutes before I voided the warranty by putting liquid metal on the gpu hs.

Funny to gather points you have to balance the system as a whole, instead of brute force like the desktop counterparts. For those interested my hwbot hwbot.org/user/deanomax/

So imo buying a desktop replacement should follow the same path as if it was a traditional system, when it comes to settings within the bios.

Would you accept a neutered bios on your gaming desktop motherboard? Due to the vast majority of users, being practically braindead when it comes to bios's? No, because that would be absurd.

I mean there is absolutely nothing enabled for user control in this system. Its insane. I even called eluktronics, and told them Id waive any liability towards them for an unlocked bios. Sure you know where that went. They didnt even have a driver page for my model, and instead directed me to clevos download repository.

Dont get me started on trying to find software to adjust and manipulate my system via windows.

Then again for 1,099 bucks shipped to my door with a rtx2070 maxq that runs at 1600mhz + comfortably at under 70c, is well worth the aggravation imo. Plus I will be recieving an unlocked bios from the bios gods thankfully.

Glad I didnt have to wait on my deadbeat reseller lmao.

 

It's the value model with a locked desktop CPU which tend to be more locked down than the mobile chips even so there wont be too much to tweak AFAIK.

 

I just bought the barebones, and populated it myself.

Got sorted out with a bios as well.

 

I'd be interested what options work tweaking wise.

 

Not sure I follow, exaclty what your asking?

 

You say you got a modified bios, did you get anywhere with it?

 

Lot of irl stuff atm. But from initial testing very much so. Prema is a god!

 

It has been a while since I've seen the locked desktop machines tweaked so when you get a chance, please share.

 

Keep an eye on the bot. Were on the same team

 

Good luck, just watch that vrm if you have power control.

 

Thanks for the pointers, no stranger to air. Getting that 7700k up to 5.4 xtu stable on aio was a pain. This time custom waters going on all . So should be very interesting

 

So how does this laptop stay so cool with a 65w desktop chip? It looks like only 2 heat pipes on the CPU. Other laptops have 4-5 heat pipes and have trouble cooling a 35w mobile chip. Is it because the desktop chip physically larger?

 

Heatpipes are one side of the equation, but fin area and fan size also matter.

 

Debating between this unit and the Mech-15. Like the size and weight of the M-15, but the horsepower of the N970TF sure is an attention getter.

I guess my question would be how is the battery if a person is just using the integrated graphics for browsing?

Looking for a replacement for my Dell Precision M-6700. I will get a spare battery for backup. Just would like to have some idea if one spare is enough.

 

Well, bit the bullet and ordered a N970TF from Amazon. Didn't think $1,499.00 was too bad for a i5-9400, 512gb SSD, and 16gb dual channel RAM to start out with. Can always upgrade later.

 

This is not a bad laptop. That 9900 non K looked pretty good in R20 at over 4,200 score with only 65-75 watts? Wow.

It is amazing what it actually takes to get a 8700K or 8086K near these numbers. And the power draw we are putting out on 6 cores to manage over 4,000 in R20.

I wonder how the 9900 non k would compare to a 8700K at around 5Ghz in 1080P gaming in BFV.

I’m super interested.

 

I thought about getting a N970TF through Eluktronics directly with the 9900, but the wallet had other ideas.

Darn food and utilities. Lol. But anyway, figured the i5-9400 is a good start, and now I have something to ask for my birthday next November.

 

Here are my Linux notes. With the RTX 2070 disabled and brightness at 30% power consumption is only 12W or so, not bad for a DTR with an i9!

https://gist.github.com/fleaplus/6d9396076a6b275f0a4389a7bf3cedad

 

Put on a jumper and rat noodles, go the student route

 

Yeah, doubt my wife would go for that too well. Lol

51 years old, and still I like to game some evenings when I get home from work. Now with this beast, I can finally spend some time learning Blender and play some major World of Tanks.

Now just need to convince my wife to give up our current DSL line, which we have simply for her fax which she uses once or twice a year, so I can get us a fiber optic Net connection.

 

COOL! Thanks for the info. Was going to dual boot with Linux Mint 19.3 to try out Proton. If I could get the games I play to work on Proton, I would have no use for Windoz 10.