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    *** Official Clevo N960TP6 / N960TD / N960TF Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by sicily428, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. Misant

    Misant Newbie

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    Mmm I hope it's possible to do this without soldering things, every time I have had to solder something, things goes rly bad...
    I actually have huge regret of buying this laptop, I feel like I have power but laptop is castrated -_-.

    I have no clue on how to handle "overclocking" on this... Increase CPU power decrease GPU power and vice versa... Things are even worst when I stress test with avx... FurMark + Prime95 shutdown laptop in less than 1mn or put power supply in security and laptop goes on battery

    Currently I do 8031 in time spy... don't even know if it's good, normal or if it suck. Pretty sure laptop with laptop cpu and 2070 do same score :/

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. 95bat

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    Your CPU score looks higher than most of the 8750H and 9750H scores I've seen. The few I saw in the MSI threads were over 1,000 points lower on CPU. The graphics scores were closer. Some were higher, some were lower.

    I like this laptop so far, hopefully it works out well. I dont understand how its priced so well!
     
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  3. Meaker@Sager

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    Don't run power virus software on any laptop...
     
  4. Misant

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    Yeah, price is good, I paid 1600€ and only added 16 gb memory stick for dual channel and 250GB SSD for system (laptop already come with 1TB SSD).
    Maybe I expect too much for this price. I digged much in benchmark results and it looks like it's ok. (but I'm sure it can be better with 330w PSU, vga bios unlock and better ram stick).

    I'm a "desktop pc guy". In general I do huge tower with watercooling and I always do "heavy" overclock on CPU/ram/GPU...
    Testing for stability and heat was always 12-24h non stop OCCT AVX/OCCT GPU/Prime95/Furmark/memtest/... and always each component solo then everything at the sametime (yes It's near 1 week nonstop to test everything and you cry when it fail in the last test on a random memory error)
    Maybe it's stupid to expect same result with a laptop and maybe my testing process is totaly unadapted to laptop (And I know for many ppl it's an overkill even on desktop but I never had stability issue after OC validation with this process)

    You mean testing laptop with avx instruction is stupid? or furmark ?
    Is there a good protocol to test for stability with laptop when undervolting ? Maybe 12h Aida64 stress test without FPU stress test (AVX) ? Or maybe I should play with AVX offset in bios ?
     
  5. Meaker@Sager

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    Furmark and Prime95 at the same time is asking for trouble.
     
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    What if you put one stick in the 2nd slot but not the first?
     
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    If I put ram only to second slot(first is empty), laptop starts, keybord lights are on, but it is stuck here. I can not even go to Bios (same thing happens if both slots are occupied). I can go to bios only if first slot is occupied and second is empty(in this case all works correctly).
     
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    Sounds like it could be an issue with the slot, reach out to your reseller. You could do a visual inspection and see if anything is obvious with the soldering/contacts.
     
  10. eviliu

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    Hi,

    I recently bought a second hand N960TD, but whenever I boot it I get a:
    "CMOS Message
    A first boot or NVRAM reset condition has been detected (If you continue to see this messages, consult the system user's guide...)"
    How do I stop it from reseting the NVRAM on each boot?
     
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    Check the CMOS battery is not flat. 3.3v is nominal and 2.7v is flat.
     
  12. eviliu

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    How do I check that?
    Also... I'm suspecting that maybe installed the wrong drivers and have the wrong BIOS (I have "insyde h2bios" right now)?
     
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    A multimeter or simply try a fresh cell.

    The wrong bios would mean your machine would be a door stop right now.
     
  14. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    That battery is cheap enough you could also test by getting another at a drugstore and replacing it. I don't think it's one of the foil wrapped ones in any version of that model.
     
  15. eviliu

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    Thank you, I will get a new battery!
    ____

    Now I have another issue though..
    I'm trying to use two stand-alone monitors on the laptop but only one of the mini-DP outputs seems to work.
    I think that maybe it's not getting any power?

    Confirmed that:
    Both Mini-DP to DVI cables work on the output that works.
    The output doesn't work even when it's the only one plugged in.
    Tried all combinations of screens and cables, they all work.
    The screens that are plugged into the output that doesn't work, are not found on intelgraphics nor Nvidia control settings.
    The output isn't visibly broken or anything like that.
    I get no reaction anywhere from plugging something into it.
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    One is from the dgpu and one is from the integrated graphics. Check your manual for which is not working.
     
  17. eviliu

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    It's the one that doesn't have the small D on top of the Displayport icon that looks like IOI.
    [​IMG]

    I bought it used so I don't have the manual, and I couldn't find it online either.
     
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    Pretty sure the one circled there goes to the dGPU.
     
  19. Kujamasaru

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    Hey guys, ive bought an N960TF and installed:
    i7 9700
    2x8GB Kingston HyperX DDR4-2666 CL15-17-17
    1TB Intel SSD 660p
    Intel Wifi 6 AX200

    What ive done so far:
    repasted CPU and GPU with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
    Throttlestop: CPU Core / Cache Voltage Offset - 85mv
    MSI Afterburner: Curve capped at 750mv@1600mhz
    installed RLECViewer to control the fans

    My problem is, without RLECViewer are the fans to noisy, with RLECViewer i run into temperature cap and the GPU downclocks
    RLECViewer seems to go for cpu temp, instead of GPU temp... :/
    Control Center 3.0 is total garbage because it wont safe the settings nor it wont autostart...
    And auto fans are no option...

    Second: how can i unlock my bios? i tried H2OUVE from a few posts earlier, but when i click File: load runtime, nothing happens.
    My bios version 1.07.09

    do u have any advices for me?

    + my score of superposition @4k

    Edit: another run with hwinfo and RLECViewer with Target Temp at 70°C
     

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  20. Meaker@Sager

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    It's not the sort of model I would look to be doing power unlocking on.
     
  21. Kujamasaru

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    what do u mean?
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    It's a system designed with a specific power target in mind when it comes to VRMs and the like. There is a reason Prema did not do unlocked BIOS files for these notebooks.
     
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