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Clevo N950TP6/ N957TP6
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1076&lang=en



Internals


Key Features

• 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 15.6” FHD 144Hz/120Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 32GB (depends on RAM module)
• Built in the NVIDIA® GTX 1060 graphics card + 6GB GDDR5
• 4 simultaneous display
• Expand to MAX. Dual M.2 SSD SATA or PCIe Gen3 x4
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 3
• Full color keyboard with numeric pad (Optional)
• White-LED illuminated keyboard
• 2 x USB 3.1 Gen2 (1 x Type A + 1 x Type C, Optional)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)
• Microsoft Mixed Reality Compatible

Clevo N950TC/ N957TC
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1176&lang=en
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1177&lang=en


Key Features

• 9th & 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 15.6” FHD 144Hz/60Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® Enthusiast Graphics Card
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports (1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

Clevo N950TD/N957TD
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1144&lang=en
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1145&lang=en

Key Features

• 8th generation Intel® Core™ processor
• High performance Desktop CPU in mobile chassis
• 15.6” FHD 144Hz/60Hz Refresh Rate Panel
• Expandable DDR4 memory up to 64GB (depends on RAM module)
• NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 2060 + 6GB GDDR6
• 4 simultaneous display
• Two M.2 SSDs PCIe Gen 3x4 or One PCIe Gen3x4 and One SATA
• Sound Blaster™ Cinema 5
• Multi-color backlit keyboard with numeric pad
• LED per Key full color illuminated with numeric pad (Optional)
• Two USB 3.1 Gen2 Ports (1 x Type A + 1 x Type C)
• Virtual Reality ready supported (depends on CPU SKU)

Reviews

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-Apex-15-Clevo-N950TP6-Laptop-Review.301664.0.html









Usefull videos








https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-DCicVG_Y

resellers
https://www.xmg.gg/xmg-apex15
https://www.ceg-hardcorecustom.com/product/clevo-n957tp6-lga1151-ddr4-nvidia-gtx-1060-vr
https://aps-informatica.it/prodotto/aps-n950-tp6-pro/


Mods
Linux Instructions https://github.com/Fincer/clevo_n950tp6

 

I was just looking into today and planning to buy it. I was wondering if it durable? Because of differnet heat and power requirement of 7700HQ and 8700?

 

here some infos about the old n950kp6 with kabylake desktop cpus
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-n950kp6.808942/

i7-8700 has a TDP of 65W and it is the same of a i7-7700
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i7-processors/i7-8700.html
https://www.intel.it/content/www/it/it/products/processors/core/i7-processors/i7-7700.html

i7-7700hq is a mobile cpu and it has a TDP of 45W
https://ark.intel.com/products/97185/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

 

I'm stupid. I thought earlier version used 7700HQ rather than 7700. Makes sense. Going to hit the buy button now today

 

N950KP6 or N957KP6 uses a desktop cpu too
i5-7400
i5-7500
i5-7600k
i7-7700t
i7-7700
i7-7700K

 

KP6 had a very good cooling system, and really quiet as well

 

there aren't photos of the gpu cooling system for that model

 

I think I have, I will look.

 

some photos...

 

Very glad what I'm missed N957KP6 with Kaby Lake for the same price in December

Thanks! Can you provide some tests with thermal results?

And another big question for me, is it LG LP156WF6-SPB1 use PWM or not? I found only two reviews with opposite results for this display.

 

seems like they don't have PWM, according to many notebookcheck reviews

 

Here is SPB1 20kHz PWM
http://laptopmedia.com/review/acer-...t-keeps-whats-good-from-the-previous-version/

LP156WF6- SPK3 - 20kHz
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sager-NP5852-Clevo-N850HL-i7-7700HQ-MX150-Laptop-Review.248544.0.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-Sabre-15-i7-7700HQ-GTX-1050-Laptop-Review.235772.0.html

LP156WF6, but without exact model - 20kHz
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-Media-15-i7-7700HQ-MX150-Laptop-Review.272118.0.html

But for SPB1 model I found only two reviews with opposite results.

 

At 20Khz you should not notice any flicker.

 

I've never heard of this ceg-hardware, can I trust it? And one more thing, do you guys know about the thermals? I'm about to buy a p750tp but this would be a way cheaper while still having the lga cpu.

Thanks in advance

 

Hi

Do you mean tha P750TM?If so then these are two different types of chassis and so the thermals aren't that comparable because they take different components. I can give you a comparison though, if you confirm the P75xxx model you're looking at.

We have been testing sample N950TP6 chassis from Clevo since early December, but mass production stock for resale isn't shipping yet.

 

No,the thermals for the N950TP6.

Do you have an ETA for the N950TP6? I can wait until march for it, otherwise I will grab an P750TM now

 

I know when our stock is arriving, but I don't have a launch date at the moment - it should definitely be before March though.

Thermals - it does ok! Bear in mind that it only supports up to 65W CPUs, so i7-8700 maximum. With this (standard, not delidded i7-8700) and a GTX 1060, you're looking at mid-high 80Cs for CPU and GPU in a Game Benchmark such as Unigine - but this is pushing the CPU up to 4.3GHz+ and the GPU to full boost clock speeds. For more intensive burning in tests the temps aren't really noticably higher but of course you'll see lower clock speeds as with other chassis. External chassis temperatures from IR thermal testing are comparable to other chassis with similar specification.

NOTE - these (synthetic benchmark) figures are from our fist testing last year and as such are only an indicator of the product to come. There will have been updates between then and the mass production models which I don't have full test results on yet. So take the above figures with a pinch of salt, as the final released products may run a bit cooler.

 

The 65w will give it a nice boost over the mobile versions.

 

i buy this barbone from https://www.mydealz.de/deals/clevo-...d-ips-notebookguru-mit-i3-8100-999eur-1110861

it has only a ips 60 hz panel. Is it possible for a " normalo " like me to buy a 120 hz tn ( or ips ) and switch it with the old panel. Only if it is not so hard with good manual from the internet

 

Usually 120hz panels have a different connector, you could try overclocking the first panel and see what it can do.

 

You don't afraid because of lot complains about gamingguru service?
It is very small company with only 3 employers and they ignore costumers issues very often.

 

thx 4 advice .. it was a good price and i am in contect with the support ... they got better ... they said themshelf the made mistakes in the past .. is ok i want to try

support saided it is no problem .. the only thing is that the display should not be so " fat " und and the connector must be on the right side ...

How can i search for 120 hz panels now which fit in my case ? the barbone is very jung not much post in the internet. Would be nice if you advice me how i can search in the www for the panels.

 

Do you received it?
Can you share some thermal results?

 

http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1076&lang=en

 

Have mine since 3 days with the i5 8400.
Runs good

If someone has questions feel free to ask!

 

could you test it with aida64 extreme (stability test cpu+gpu) for 30 minutes? what temperatures?

 

Good lord a 8700 in that chasis. I'm completely cringing right now.

Wow, only CEG is stupid enough to offer an I7 8700 in that notebook.

 

Wow, @clevo-extreme is stupid? Please see my post from page 2 of this thread and then reconsider:

 

Yes they are.
Also I sure as hell am not gonna trust a single handpicked unit that you have tested.

Not only is their feedback here in the forums terrible but I had the displeasure to deal with them myself a couple of months back.

 

That's fine, on GEG and if you think we handpicked one golden sample unit to test and post results from - you're welcome to your subjective opinion.

 

No, you recieved a golden handpicked one. For good reasons obviously.

 

Ok, whatever...as I said, you're entitled to your opinion even if it's completely factually incorrect. I didn't even say that those figures were from a test of one chassis, which btw they were not. If you're in any way interested, we receive multiple sample chassis of each model before the mass production (MP) ones arrive. The samples ALWAYS perform worse that the MP version, simply because they are samples.

There's no such thing as a golden sample chassis, the mere idea of such a thing defeats all logic.

Fin.

 

I bought my machine from @clevo-extreme (Commercially named CEG). Communication was super smooth, my requests were met, shipping was fast as fast could be (1 working day domestically inside Germany) and the machine is running perfect.

What was your issue with them?

 

The same as everybody elses issue. Bad communication, being ignored, bad hardware etc.

Bad prices as well, I imported hardware from US in a better condition for a cheaper price, that's pretty insane tbh.

 

What condition is better than new?
Or do CEG sell used hardware?

 

They do also sell used hardware. Higher priced than new sometimes, not even joking.

 

They are insane to offer a 65W TDP chip in a chassis that previously sold with a 65W chip....

That's certainly an interesting view to take, can't say I agree with that analysis.

 

Well ... My experience was the complete opposite.

 

In this thread: blasts CEG for offering a chassis with a CPU it's designed for (check Clevo's website product page)... Absurd... I'm assuming it's the usual fact free anti-fanboyism 'LGA is hot' trolling.

Then moves on to blast CEG's customer service, in a hardware thread where it's completely out of place, for whatever reason, with no details, claiming broad nonspecific support from "everybody"

Which is a claim of false authority, I haven't had any issues with CEG, they've been responsive, quick, and effective when I've dealt with them, and I'm not the only one (even in this thread)

Grow up kiddo

Don't feed the troll

Or as the Romans used to say, noli cibum ad troglodytum dare

 

And that's why such a thing like throttling doesn't exist because we have so many notebooks designed for their respective TDP and never ever seen anything go on high temps. AMIRITE? If anyone ever complains about high throttling temps, I'll make sure that they are kids and need to grow up because they are imagining the throttling, since apparently according to you it's designed perfecly.

A 45W TDP (specified as 65TDP, but runs at 45W max on stock) processror namely the I5 - 7400 ran on 75-80c on gaming on that same cooling system and you exepct me to believe a 8700non K will run at full speed on acceptable temps? If clevo limits the TDP to 65W then the CPU will only run around 3.6 - 3.8ghz depending on silicon at best and reach 90s at high loads (crysis 3, stresstest etc.), and if they don't, then thermal throttle awaits, because the non K version needs around 100-110Watt to run at full turbo speed.

But hey, show me more of your ignorance of the power consumption of the 8700 non k.

Also here is an article about the scummy thing intel did:
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-12/intel-core-i7-8700-turbo-takt-oem-pc/

It's on german but it's a test about what an actual 65W TDP limit would mean for the 8700 non K.

And since you might not understand german from the arcitle, I'm sure @XMG will be able to confirm after reading the article, that 65W TDP will never let the 8700 non K run at full speed.

So ya, spread your ignorance some more.

This is apparently how intel defines their TDP:
Original from Test

English translation:

So in a nutshell, lets go and build some 8700 non Ks into 65W TDP "designed" cases (yeah, clevo's amazing "fitting" is here again, the cooling solution has terrible fit due to piss poor design, similair to the GPU heatsinks from the P1xx series, yay), so that we can make sure the CPU runs with 90c and 3.6ish ghz or we go for the unlocked TDP and run into thermal throttle and melt the whole thing.

yeah, this is smart, would recommend. Let's not read how intel specifies TDP on their base clock and instead just claim a 8700 non K runs on 65 TDP, instead lets rave about how awesome LGA is and completely disregard how we don't get full speed or run a notebook as hot as a furnace, because we love our messy heatsink fits and thermal issues. Can't live without em.


@XMG
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-11...chnitt_leistungsaufnahme_gestiegene_effizienz

Sure looks like 65 TDP on full speed. Oh wait we are in the 100s. Ohwell, lets run it at 65 TDP and see how the 3ghz do. Let's scam the hell out of our customers, because idiots totally wouldn't do that, amirite?

Yeah insane. I can't believe how bad informed you guys are.

I find it hilarious, that absolutely nobody of you ever questioned how on earth a CPU with 6 cores and 12 threads at 4.3 ghz with the same architecture as kaby lake would be able to run at 65W, that you never did some digging and never figured out that intel is a piece of crap for misleading people.

 

To be wrong is human.

To be rude when calling the rest of the world wrong, without wondering if *you're* actually the one who's wrong, shows many things

The Intel CPUs are being run beyond spec by OEM MOTHERBOARD FEATURES

The CPUs themselves or Intel are NOT AT FAULT (here)

And if the P950 runs its 8700 in a similar way, which it doesn't, it'll be shown in a review. Regardless of any hardware feature a reseller would themselves be nuts to allow a 100W+ CPU in a 2-pipe aluminium heatsink in a slim chassis!!!

Your fundamental ignorance is betrayed http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/real-meaning-behind-turbo-and-tdp.813209/#post-10672046

 

Frankly, I'm amazed at the insanely low opinion you have of us, considering you're just making random statements with no justification at all.

I NEVER NEVER said that the 8700 wouild run at those speeds and at that TDP. The 8700 is a 65W TDP CPU, that's what intel call it and so that's what I will RIGHTLY refer to it as. Clevo support 65W CPUs in the chassis, this is based on what Intel call a 65W CPU.

Full core load performance in TP6 chassis with 8700 gives a 45% performance gain over 7700 KP6 chassis, it's as simple as that. I didn't make any unsubstantiated claims but I am not about to start posting all our internal testing documentation under any conditions, let alone for a product which we haven't even actually launched yet. You wouldn't trust those figures anyway as apparently we are ignorant, incompetent and only test with "Golden Sample" chassis without realising so.


If you want to start ripping apart Intel's marketing then by all means go for it, but don't dare drag me down into that hole by putting words into my mouth or worse still suggesting I am ignorant.

@t456 @Charles P. Jefferies - pls consider this thread as having gone slightly off topic !

 

Our chassis follow Intel spec too a 65W chip will be set to 65W, remember the die is larger than the quad core helping to spread the heat.

 

So where i can get the full spec of this machine guys?

 

Is this meant as a Joke? Have you ever heard about PCG 2015C ? And have you ever read Intel's Technical Resources datasheet for: Intel® Core™ Processors ? About time you should STOP post misleading info!!

 

Bearing in mind in multi threaded tasks you are still dominating the Quad core chip and keeping to 65W I think that's the main thing. There are reviews out there showing the true 65W performance now, I don't agree with reviewers getting them running at 95W but it's still a decent step up for those who need threads.

 

Here's the Aida 64 stress test.

Sent from my XT1562 using Tapatalk

 

Can i ask a question guys, this one have any thunderbolt 3?

 

No

TimeSpy:


Fire Strike:

 

No, it's a type-C USB port, not thunderbolt 3.