How to improve the performance without breaking any warranty conditions?

I just bought a Sager NP9772 / Clevo P770ZM from reflexnotebooks.ca. I'm wondering if I can remove those useless "hot warnings, and strew numbers" for better thermal performance without breaching the warranty restrictions:



I'm very concerned about those heat pipes sharing the heat from CPU+GPU+chipSet. May be the 980M 150 w + monster is pretty much a time bomb for all the other components. I'm planing to buy a decent cooling pad and may be putting some thin aluminum heat sinks on top of the GPU chipset because the heatpipe over it do not goes any where, is just transferring more heat from the CPU... I do not know guys... I love this brand for its performance not for some horny lines... On the other hand I don't want to void my 2-year warranty. The solutions offered else where... do not make much sense either (putting more copper) because it may be even worse (i.e. having 4mm+ thick copper layer in sandwich with two layer of thermal adhesive over the GPU chipset). I know I'm going to play a lot on this laptop but I bought it under the pretext of using it for some work too... and with this sharing-heat config. I don't really want to reduce the life of both processors to a half... so please, if anyone really knows about the warranty please let me know... Does anyone knows about the life expectancy for those components?? It should be crystal clear in curve: temp vs life hours and may be with some correction factors by fatigue due to excessive thermal-stress cycling or something like that. I do not really know the temp threshold in which the components start to accumulate damage...

But, if someone wants too read more, here is my best guess:

Let say that the components start to fail at 110 C. which is more or less the actual limit for most processors. As a rule of thumb, less that 80% of that stress should be fine for a long life span (5 years). so, if some component reaches 85 +-3C it will star reducing it's life span very rapidly. I saw benchmarks online and this system can go up to 90C in demanding tasks...

I think is not very hard to achieve a 10C temp reduction by means of using a cooling pad, removing those tapes (may be they are designed to remove the whole copper sink or whatever but they are bad and ugly =P), and placing some aluminum heat sinks to enjoy a solid gaming platform for 3-4 years!

sorry about my English and tank you for your answers!

 

Contacting reflexnotebooks.ca directly will be your best choice for warranty information. No one else can really speak on their behalf.

 

I don't get what you are actually trying to ask about improving cooling except for the part where you wish to remove the paper.

The machine will be properly cooled in basically any situation unless you have bad thermal paste or a bad heatsink or you abuse Prime95 etc. The CPU's TJMax is 100 degC and it appears to thermally throttle at 90C in this notebook, so that's pretty much fine.

You can use better thermal paste, such as Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra to cut down temperatures even more. Propping the back of the notebook up will also help quite a bit, regardless of paste. A cooling pad might help too, but mainly for the increased airflow rather than the actual fans, unless you grab a notepal U3 or something and do a little modding.

Please be aware that unless you're going to be using extremely intensive CPU tasks/programs you should not really take stress test temperatures to heart.

 

This, they may be happy with you removing the heatsinks and doing a repaste but only they can confirm something like that.

 

Thank you for your advise. I'll write those guys from reflex, once they ship my order at least, it has been 10 days and they still processing. Xotic has more options in my opinion, but with the taxes (over the total, item + delivery + insurance) and the currency falling... reflex is the choice for Canadians, they have free delivery...

just a few comments:

First, I cannot use Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra, since all conductive thermal paste or tapes automatically cancel out any warranty. It may be MX-4 which is the second best know to me. I have bought a U3, and a 200mm bitfenix fan... but somehow I found is better just to add more 90mm fans, it makes a difference of 3C...May be is because of the size of holes in the aluminium plate. Also, larger fans uses 12v to run full speed so my solution was to connect the 200mm to an AC converter instead and it gets louder with similar performance.

Second, I just have the idea of cutting some old aluminum RAM heatsinks (Fig 1) and put them over GPU copper chipset, using thermal adhesive tape creating a patter like shown in Fig 2. The bad thing about using copper heatsinks is that it may create "hot spots"...because the copper can adsorb just too much heat... using aluminum could be safer in this regard. Xotic offers extra copper, I do not know how they apply it, but since my model has both GPU and CPU blocks welded in a very long unit... I'm afraid that "hot spots" may work for worse.


Figure 1. Aluminum Heatsinks

Figure 2 extra copper heatsink

 

You should be able to use Gelid GC Extreme.. it's not conductive.. MX-4 is junk and won't work at all.. It just degrades..

 

Unless you cut the case and add airflow simply adding in more metal will not help.

 

TY!!

 

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Never buying from Reflex Notebooks I can tell ya that... if it's one thing about my warranty it doesn't cancel out if I use CLU or tape mods or anything like that. Or modify my GPU vBIOS. Or pretty much anything that doesn't instantly brick it.