HTWingNut's Sager NP6110 / Clevo W110ER First Look & Review

That only affects desktop processors. Mobile processors do not have the heat spreader.

 

I'm perfectly aware of that, but that doesn't stop the fact that the Ivy runs hotter than Sandy when OC.

Also there's no point to overclock a quadcore CPU on a laptop anyways.. especially not on one of these

 

Battery life is just OK. I am coming from an ATOM based netbook my wife and I both use. We would charge that every 2 days or so with average net based usage. With this machine we have to plug it in every night.

Overall I would say between 3 - 4 hours of net usage. last night I played arma2 for 50 minutes on battery from full charge. I had about 12% when I was done.

Given the power of this machine, I'm not complaining.

 

Good find. But I'm afraid to order from them since it's a no-name store, no resellerrating listed.

 

After reading about your unfortunate results with the screen replacement I am so glad I had the matte screen installed by someone other than me becuase I know I'd screw it up somehow. I feel for ya bro!

 

Lies! You don't need a point, just a need.

 

point taken hehe

 

Well, I was being a little naive, anxious, and curious (i.e. stupid). When I saw there was no bracket on the new LCD, it was a side mount, I should have stopped there. But looking at the existing LCD, the mounting locations are top and bottom off a flange, and that bracket had tape running around the perimeter of the LCD. I thought I could just cut the tape, remove a couple of screws, and slap it on the other LCD. I've done that with other LCD's before, but before it was just a couple of screwed on brackets, not around the entire perimeter. But it's been years since I've replaced one and also on much larger larger laptops.

But for those interested, I can do a short write up on how to remove the LCD, it isn't that hard. In a nutshell, you have to remove the four bumpers on the bezel, remove the four screws (you'll need a fine philips head). Carefully pry the bezel off. Then there are four screws holding the LCD to the hinge bracket. Then two more screws (one per side) at the hinge.

In case anyone is curious the LCD is the M116NWR1 I referenced earlier. Here's some images in spoiler tag...

Spoiler

Just set the new LCD on the current screen to check for bezel size.


Bezel removed


LCD removed

 

It's pretty inspiring when people dare opening their laptops and start doing these types of projects! Mad respects to HtWingNut

 

yeah, those pics are so cooool. I love it when ppl doing this

 

It's the new transparent screen edition...

 

You have my sympathies. Nice try though.

 

so whats up the new screen didnt fit or did you break something?

And are there any reports on the matte screen or even th matte screen compared to the glossy one?

 

Hi i couldn't find the question (Search field shows me an error ) so i ask (maybe again) with this post.

I bought a Clevo W110ER.
What is your suggestion, which ram should i buy.
With how many Mhz can the notebook handle with: 2133, 1866 or only 1600 Mhz? I bought the i7 Ivy Bridge.
Also which brand ? Corsair Vegeance?
And the last question: how many RAM are enought?

My goal: performance. I am don't interessted in Batterylife, i only want a fast notebook with power.
I dont know..

Best regards,
your new Member Bikerboy030


PS:
the vegeance exist in 2 different versions:
1866 mhz with "worser latence"
and
1600 with faster latence...

If the notebook can handle 1866 mhz, it should be the best option, or not?
But than i "only" can get 8gb of ram...

 

scrolling back, does indeed look like things ended badly

 

The CPU and Chipset only support 1600. Unless you want to overclock the cpu/bus by a large margin (not good in this laptop or any laptop) then I'd stick with the 1600.

 

1866Mhz RAM is no problem on the W110ER...the extra Mhz will boost the HD4000 graphics performance by a good margin...

 

I wonder, would resellers void the warrany if we end up using prema's bios?

Went through my old stack of computers to rip apart some heat sinks and copper shims. How dangerous would it be to add some more copper? I also wanna add some more holes for more air. Will the reduction of heat be worth the effort, or, am i going to see 2 degree drop.

oh the possibilities. lol

 

I put six small heatsinks on my CPU heatsink and it dropped peak temps by about 4C with no extra air moving over it.

 

Hi,

Can you point out what you used to stick the heatsinks? brandname of the thermal tape, etc....

Also, what type of heatsink? copper from ebay? or aluminum?

Do you guys recommend this

HP DV2000 DV6000 V3000 DV9000 F500 F700 TX1000 Heatsink Copper Pad Shim 20/2.0 | eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Copper-Ram-...?pt=US_CPU_Fans_Heatsinks&hash=item1c1e75354f


I just submitted an order with XoticPC for this little beast (cancelled the 150em due to backorder of the 7970m). Cannot wait to stick my ssd into it

 

I just had some copper heatsinks from a previous project, but amazon or ebay is where I usually buy it. You can get it cheap if you order from a place that ships from China, but will take a few weeks to ship. Otherwise you pay a premium for domestic product.

And yes, Prema's BIOS will allow for RAM overclock. Going to do some testing, so far running at 1866MHz no problem with stock Samsung CAS 11 RAM.

 

which answer is the right one?
Can the ivy bridge handle more than 1600 mhz ram or not?
Because if the more mhz are only important for oc, than i would prefer the 1600mhz with better lantence...

and if the 4000 has better performance, than it would be interessted...i think

 

Running benchmarks on HD 4000 at 1600, 1866, and 2000 if my RAM can manage it.

 

Thanks a lot


if the heat reduction methode works for you....may you could add an "how to" for us

 

Agree with this. Even if it seems too easy, I'm very prone to accidents I'm taking advice, watching others.

 

the search isnt working right now. Have there been any benchmarks with diablo 3 on 1080p?

 

i too would like to see this mod you've done, and how you've done it if it isn't much trouble

 

Mobile Intel® Express Chipset HM76: Product Brief

1600 with no overclocking. Don't plan on OC the CPU. If anything I'd be OC the GPU or the GPU memory.

 

Ahem:

High Performance Idle with RAM @ 1866MHz (notice 100FSB still)


High Performance 100% load Prime95 RAM @ 1866 (notice 100FSB still)


RAM Speed @ 1866



I admit overclocking RAM doesn't do much for daily tasks, but definitely improves gaming with HD 4000. I'm running similar benches as with my AMD 6620G and will compare results with it as well.

Keep in mind that this is with the modded BIOS by Prema, but settings are there to clock RAM higher or load XMP profiles. I am hoping to get ahold of a pair of 1866 RAM, preferably 2133 if they are ever made available. Kingston kept promising but never delivered.

 

diablo runs perfectly on 1080p max settings dw about it. i know cuz i just spent the whole day playing

 

So how's the new screen HT?

 

I like it. The matte finish helps a lot. Viewing angles are about the same. Brightness is a little less from what I recall, but plenty bright. I did use it yesterday in the shade but sunny out and 50% brightness was plenty. No distracting reflections or anything. It's a good option IMHO.

 

I order the NP6110, the delivery date is June.

my options

3ª Geração Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM Processor (2.3GHz Turbo Boost 3.3GHz, 4MB L3 Cache)
IC Diamond 7 Thermal CPU E GPU
Tela 11.6" (16:9) HD+ LED Glossy Surface (1366x768)
Nvidia GeForce GT 650M GPU with 2GB GDDR3 Video Memory
8GB DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz (2 X 4GB)
500 GB 7200 RPM Hybrid SSD 4GB SATA 300
USB Externo 6X Blu-ray Reader/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Atheros 802.11 B+G+N Wireless Lan + Bluetooth Combo
Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Inglês

Is this a good choose ?

Tkz,

BR

 

Hmm.. my current Glossy screen on the M1530 is driving me crazy these summer evenings.. dying

 

result: gaming / browsing would improved with this ram, but if the nvidea geforce works, it doesn't do anything. ANd i think 1600 mhz ram are enought for browsing because i always will play with the geforce

 

Right, faster RAM does help system performance a bit, I did notice things moving a bit faster or maybe just placebo, I don't know. But absolutely no point in buying faster RAM if you will never use it for the HD 4000. Very few apps take advantage of faster RAM either. But I'm looking at gaming on battery with the HD 4000 to save battery, and so far it seems it can play BF3 on low/med at 30+ fps most of the time.

 

Hope you paste details of your screen adventure over on the initial post. These two threads move too fast to keep track of.

 

Nice, I might have to upgrade to this down the road.

 

Thing that sucks is that that HD 4000 is downclocked/fixed at 650MHz so don't expect to game on battery with the HD 4000 which is a great disappointment. What's the point in having an IGP and on battery it can't run full speed on demand?

 

Ahem...indeed

 

Plugged in, especially with the HD 4000 overclocked and 1866MHz RAM, games like BF3 are more than playable over 30FPS. But on battery it's only about 15FPS. I would like to think this could be circumvented with a BIOS update, but from the "suicide" BIOS I got from Prema (basically ALL settings exposed) it doesn't seem that's even possible. But I'm hopeful this can be circumvented somehow. If it can run CPU + 650m on battery why not CPU with IGP?

 

do you try in nvidia control center set the VGA for a GT650m in batery and set to performance ?

[]'s

 

Could it be related to the CPU not turboing on battery? I'm going to have another look at the Intel Datasheets next week and see if I can find anything about not turboing on the battery to keep power usage down.

 

I turned off Speedstep and it runs full speed now. It's in BIOS, but not sure if in stock BIOS or if one of the beta Prema BIOS I've been testing. In any case it will be available soon. We are going as fast as we can. It's ultimately up to Prema since he's the programmer. I'm just the guinea pig. He should receive his W110ER soon so he can validate everything I've done before it gets released.

 

Hopefully the BIOS Prema is working on will fix a lot of these problems we're seeing. Must be kind of hard to work on BIOS while not even having the machine.

 

*I* am the machine... That's why it's taking so long. Back and forth, 6 hour time difference I believe, real life schedules, etc. He's imposed an NDA somewhat so don't want to say anything unless he says ok. Some stuff will likely require more work or actual updates from Sager themselves if we want it to work. Unless Prema has some stuff up his sleeve. Likely once he gets his machine he'll be able to do more detailed testing.

 

Will release all tested features before I receive my own machine.
We can allways improve later on

 

You have too much faith in me.

 

I noticed that you said you overclocked the HD4000 and the ram. Can you give a quick guide on which program to download/operate, and what limits we can overclock it to?

 

Does anyone know about intel quality sample (the ones sent to OEMs and can be identified by cpu-z, not the engineering sample which can not be indentified by cpu-z) chips? I am tired waiting for a laptop that might never come and I'm in china right now and can get a w110er with a i7 3612 quality sample/8gb ram/no hdd for $850usd. I am thinking of going for it.

Any thoughts?