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    Eurocom Shark 4 (Clevo N150SD) Quick Review

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ramzay, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Introduction

    The Clevo N150SD is the entry-level 15” model from Clevo, replacing the older W355SS (which I reviewed here). It’s clearly taken some design cues from the Clevo P650SE/SG series, and shares the exact same keyboard.

    This model was purchased from Eurocom. You can find images and the full list of specifications here. This model has now been replaced by the Shark 5 (Skylake model).


    Specifications

    Seeing as this is a BGA laptop (with the CPU and GPU being soldered directly to the motherboard) you have no options to customize those.

    Intel Core i7-4720HQ
    NVIDIA GTX 960M 2GB
    8GB (2x4) DDR3 1600 RAM
    500GB 7200rpm HDD
    15.6” 1920x1080 LG IPS matte display panel
    DVD-RW optical drive (can be swapped out for an extra 2.5” HDD/SDD bay)
    Intel 7265 Stone Peak 2 wifi card (A/C/B/G/N) + Bluetooth 4.0


    Style/build/design

    This machine definitely looks the part. A muted stylish look that I definitely like, and much better than the older W355SS. In fact, I dare say I prefer this chassis to that of the Eurocom M5 Pro (Clevo P650SE) I had, though that’s obviously a matter of personal opinion. It’s clean-looking, the soft-touch plastic feels good, it is very light and easy to handle, yet still feels stiff/sturdy enough that I’m not worried about warping/damaging it.

    The palm rests don’t attract smudges and fingerprints as easily as other machines do, which is a nice bonus. The display lid seems a tad bit sturdier than the P650SE, but still much flimsier than I’d like. Overall the design and build quality is just fine, especially considering the price, though you can often get an ASUS G551 on sale for about the same price, and that has a sexier, more stylish finish to it.


    Screen

    This is a nice screen man. All the recent 15” Eurocom machines I’ve had have come with the excellent AUO B156HAN0.2 panel, but this time I’ve gotten the LG LP156WF6-SPB1. It’s very bright, more so than the AUO. Viewing angles are nice, colours are vibrant, contrast is good. Calibrating it with a Sypder4Express, I get the following values.

    sRGB:92%
    AdobeRGB:71%
    NTSC:69%

    While it is a bit inferior to the good AUO I had been using, to the naked eye the difference is non-existent, and I appreciate the high levels of brightness.

    Overall, this is an excellent display, especially at this price point. You’ll be hard pressed to find a comparably-specced/priced laptop with a display this good. It is definitely a selling point for this laptop. You also have the option of telling Eurocom which panel (AUO or LG) you’d prefer, so you can then choose between slightly better colour-space coverage or a brighter screen. Choice is good.

    Here's a link to the ICC profile I used. Be aware that even if you have the exact same display panel, this may not produce good results, since each panel is different. It's possible this will make your display worse, in which case you can just delete it and revert to your default colour profile.

    Keyboard/trackpad

    No surprises here - it’s the exact same keyboard found on the Clevo P650SE/SG/RE/RG, and it works just fine. It has the same issues too - namely the keys feel just a bit flimsy, and sometimes a few of them can be loud. But spacing and size is good, it has a mostly full-sized num pad (none of this ¾ size num pad crap - I’m looking at you, Dell/ASUS/MSI), and I appreciate the good array of Fn combo keys. The travel is decent too, shallower than better keyboards like those found on the ASUS G751 or Alienware laptops, but deeper than other laptops like the Dell Inspiron line. I just wish the material the keys are made of (plastic) wasn’t quite as shiny/slick, but that’s just me.

    The trackpad is smooth, fairly large, and I love those large dedicated buttons. No gaming laptop (or any laptop for that matter) should suffer the horror of integrated mouse buttons on the track pad. The fingerprint reader works pretty well, and is a nice feature on a laptop of this price. Trackpad performance is acceptable, though you probably want to use a mouse if you can.

    Overall, it’s a very good keyboard at this price range, though you can find better.


    Performance

    Well, it’s a Core i7-4720HQ with a GTX 960M, so performance is about where you’d expect it to be.

    3DMARK11
    P5740
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10334754

    3DMARK
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8697545


    Heat/noise

    Ah, we now come to the Achilles Heel of the machine. Given that both the GPU and CPU each have their own dedicated heatsink/fan combo, I expected some pretty darn good thermals. I mean, the Clevo P650SE I reviewed runs the same CPU and a more powerful GPU (albeit with a larger cooling solution), so you’d think this would be a cool and quiet machine right? The answer is both yes and no.

    When idle, the machine is practically silent and cool to the touch. Good stuff. However, when under load, things get ugly fast.

    All testing done at an ambient temperature of around 22C, and all results are listed in degrees Celsius. These are max temps, and I was running a -75mV undervolt in XTU.

    Intel XTU Stress test
    CPU: 85C

    Unigine Valley
    GPU: 82
    CPU: 70

    3DMark11
    CPU:81
    GPU:80

    3DMark
    CPU:81
    GPU:82

    Diablo 3
    CPU:74
    GPU:74

    The keyboard hit a max of 46C under load, near the Y key.

    I’m not too sure what the problem is, as these results are just flat-out unacceptable for a machine with these specs and cooling solution. I mean, the Clevo W230SD with similar specs manages to cool its components better, yet that machine has a single heatsink/fan cooling both the CPU & GPU.

    I did notice that most of the grilles in the bottom panel are purposefully sealed off, which is weird. Restricting airflow like that will obviously hurt the thermals. I’m wondering if I just have bad heatsinks, as Foxconn is known to sometimes make bad ones.


    Speakers/sound

    I have nothing much to say about the speakers - they’re about as good as you’d expect from a machine in this price range. Much better than previous Clevo models I tried (such as the older Shark 3/W355SS) but not as good as those found on machines such as the MSI GT72. You’ll still probably want to use a good pair of headphones for gaming, but you can watch youtube and music with the speakers.


    Conclusion

    There’s a lot to like about this machine. I personally like the styling, sleek and subdued. It is light, yet feels sturdy enough (though I would’ve liked a sturdier screen hinge). Good keyboard, good screen, and all for a very reasonable price. Performance is spot-on, and battery life is respectable.

    Where things fall apart are with the thermals and noise. The machine is silent and cool to the touch when idle, but things heat up significantly under load, while getting loud. The CPU and GPU get much hotter than they should, which kills any hope of over-clocking the GPU. This is a shame, as the GTX 960M has been shown to overclock really well.

    Maybe I’m just unlucky and got a bad CPU, GPU and defective heatsinks. But as it stands, I’m displeased, as the gaming experience suffers, and it’s annoying knowing smaller machines with the same specs but worse cooling solutions are cooler and quieter.

    Beyond the thermal and noise issues my particular unit had (not sure if it's defective or if that’s just the way this machine is) it’s a solid buy for the money.
     
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  2. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Thanks for taking the time to review and post it. I always appreciate info on models that might not get as much love as some of the others. Were you going to see if you could get the temps lower at all?
     
  3. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    I tried doing a re-paste, didn't really help much. Using the cooling pad did help a bit, but nothing great.

    I get the feeling all those closed-off vents on the bottom panel might be a culprit, and maybe opening them up could help. But I've already sold this machine, so I can't test that. Those closed vents force the fans to draw air over other components, which would indeed help cool the other components at the expense of the CPU/GPU.
     
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    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    vegetaeater Notebook Evangelist

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    Stumbled across this machine and thought I was onto a real winner. Temps don't bother me so much, but noise does. Unbelievably, sounds like this is even louder than the P650SE.
    Madness!

    Hasn't anyone made a quiet 15" Skylake gaming laptop yet (960m).
     
  6. ngotiendat

    ngotiendat Notebook Consultant

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    The bottom cover really makes me crying :)))) I mean they blocked all the airflows into the laptop.
     
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    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Yeah, not sure why.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

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    I have to admit the bottom cover design is very odd on this machine.
     
  9. splashy

    splashy Notebook Consultant

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    this is the older version, right?
     
  10. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Seems to be a typical Clevo problem.. Even stuff like this in P870...
     
  11. ngotiendat

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    anyone who has this laptop or the later version with skylake could you make some benchmarks with your laptop: Intel XTU Stress test with the bottom cover under the laptop and Intel XTU Stress test without the bottom cover under the laptop?