Droidmahn's Clevo P775DM3/Sager NP9172 Review

I forgot to snap a pic of the liquid metal but here's the old paste

 

That does not look like the best contact, no.

 

I have put a -200mv undervolt on my cpu today through the clevo software and will see how the temps go. If the laptop cant keep cool its going back .

 

Some samples do come with a higher stock voltage but will take a larger under volt.

 

I'm able to UV to -225mv on both the core and cache at stock clocks. Very stable and keeps things nice and cool.

Run OCCT for 30 minutes. If it passes, then you should be in the clear. When testing UV values I let mine run for 1+ hour for the heck of it.

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20 min occt all cores large data set is sufficient for 100% rockstable performance

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In reality yes

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That's for 4.2ghz or 4ghz ?

 

Probably 4.. Doubt 4.2 will hold with such an UV...

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What do you guys run to undervolt the cpu and do you use the clevo command centre and the clevo cpu and gpu overclocking software?.

Throttlestop is not supported on my I7 6700k. And intel xtu is coming up saying it cant install.

 

Stock clocks. If not I think he had won the whole silicon lottery

@wolfmenseyes Grab latest TS 8.30 from @unclewebb 's signature.

 

Is there another name or word for stock clocks? Maybe "default" clock? It's the same thing.

...yall know what the stock multipliers are yes? There's only one stock value.

I've posted screen shots of this already. Not sure what there's to doubt? I'm confused now.

Happy UV'ING....

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Almost forgot how high stock clock is on 6700K. Almost never used this speed, LOL
Maybe I used stock clockspeed the first time I booted up my machine after the purchase?

 

LOL same. Havent used the system at stock for ages.

 

Having such a reality and possibility is music to the ears and soul....

Stock in my world is 4.6GHz as it runs flawlessly at -55mv on Core and Cache.

 

Pretty much. All my apps feel slow at anything around 4.4ghz. specially simulations and renders. Even though the difference is minimal, once you get used to higher clocks, you feel the difference.
Cant go under 4.5-4.6ghz.

 

Amen to that! Right?! I completely agree...for me 4.5GHz is where I can start noticing a difference.

 

And you still defend BGA in laptops, LOL. Time for a better text under your Avatar. For example <INTEL's BGA IS CRAP> Or <Azor should leave the post> HAHA
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6820hk-for-undervolting.796533/#post-10358077

 

And you still continue to stir up dust that doesn't need to be stirred up? Pointless comments. Your suggestions are a bit childish as well.

Why? Are you that bored? There is no need to create confrontation....all it's doing is displaying your lack of character.

 

I will always recommend use of socket processors in any laptops(15 inches and up). Better binned, + BGA i7 will probably never overclock such as socket processors... Aka socket i7 will give you better performance. BGA is designed for use in thinnest possible laptops. Performance is forgotten. Form before performance!! Intel knows it!! And with that ... Forces upgrade before you want/need. And OEM's jump on that train

 

We all know this and I am implying that you're barking up the wrong tree. What has been happening is cancerous that has spread throughout the industry. Bga serves a purpose in slim profile devices such as tablets, phones and ultra thin laptops, buy they do not belong in desktop replacements or gaming laptops. However, the form factor is important to most people so sadly they'll still continue to buy what's available. Think of it like mainstream vs underground where the real stuff is usually under the radar away from what the masses adopt.

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If all of us had warned possible new buyers against buying gaming laptops / DTR with soldered hardware, would the sale of such unwanted hardware halt. ODM / OEM's and hardware manufacturers needed to start thinking differently. Very low sales of such hardware would mean changes. They can't survive and earn enough money on cheap junkware. For the better for everyone... This is also in line with what @Mr. Fox and many other hardcore performance enthusiasts say and mean. Higher sales of BGA machines means stop for desktop machines later down the road. Everybody should work so this never can happen!! You also!!

 

Yes, we all need to stick together as brothers against BGA filth. There should be a stigma and a sense of shame associated with owning BGA trashbooks that were pitched as powerful gaming machines. Our mission should be to do everything we can to cause severe financial harm to the companies that sell this pitiful and worthless filth to gullible people and pretend it is awesome.

 

Me also? Listen, I'm going to be nice here and not go on a rampage, but I ask that you tone it down a little or you know I'll throw back and there is no need for that.

I agree and that's the intent here in protecting the integrity of true power houses and to derail any false claims being made out there in the mainstream market. I remember the first time I've seen the 960M being advertised as a powerful gaming chipset....SMH....what a joke!

 

No need to rattle with the knives. What I meant... It is not possible to ride two horses at once!! The only thing that can lead to the more preferred socket machines(power houses)are buying them, and totally stop buying / not support gaming machines with soldered hardware. Quite simple!!

 

That's surely a matter of opinion. To each his own. This subject is a lost cause.

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Even though i DO NOT SUPPORT BGA systems, that is not exactly true my friend.
I own a Razer Blade as well, and that laptop serves me a lot in a lot of different scenarios. Specially where im not able to carry my P870DM-G around. Or where i dont need all the horse power.
The sad truth right now, is that, the industry is waking up a little too late.
Even though i support BGA systems, my mom or my sister or my dad, dont want a heavy system. They prefer my Blade / or the Thinkpad i got my dad / or the AW13 i got my sister, over my P870DM-G. And not because they look better, but because they are convenient and serve their purpose.

 

There is a big difference between a laptop in 13/14 inches design vs +15" laptops(same as it's a big difference to shave you, than cutting off your head ). I understand that a desktop i7 will be problematic in such a small design... But not in laptops in bigger sizes like 15/17/18 inches!! BGA is unwanted in those sizes and should be totally removed as options. Especially in laptops intended to replace desktops/gaming rigs. And BGA into a 21 inches AcerBook is catastrophic. TRAGIC!!

 

The Predator 21X is still the most ridiculous piece of bling I have ever seen. It has "I am a wanker" written all over .

 

I could easily purchased this Bling Bling BGA machine, if it had proper cooling, fully unlocked firmware and of course socket hardware. Design and brand isn't so important. You can't get proper performance from Design I hope Acer price this disaster so high... That no one will buy it

 

Exactly. They should have went with function over form.

 

"B-but I can prove I'm cool! I have 5 fans!" "Yeah, and you better keep'em close, cause that's all the fans you'll ever have."

 

IMO that Acer was such a waste of R&D and money....Maybe R&D stands for Reckless + Disaster in this case?

The thing weighs a ton. Literally. Unless one lives in a 1x1 cubical and really needs every ounce of space that they can get, I just don't see any practicality in that "thing," really. Sure it's neat...no doubt about that, but honestly building a desktop and lugging that around would actually be lighter LOL.

 

I'll still be curious to look at a tear down of it.

 

Tbh it's more along the lines of " I am a wanker and a rich stupid ****" written all over..

 

Maybe that Acer has its uses.

What it doesn't have is wicked hardware. At that price and size though...

Based on acers past, its probably best to wait l. If it's under 2k-2.5k for single GPU , it might me worth it.

 

To be fair, the curved display is pretty damn swaggeriffic, but it makes as much sense on a laptop as tits on a bull; plus, it's implemented in a ridiculously bad way that leaves huge gaps between the lid and the body.

 

How would the GTX 1060 equipped version perform with a 4K screen in games? Should I cash out and get a 1070 one? I'm considering giving it to my girlfriend in a few months and buy a newer SLI version in spring 2017.

I'm getting it from PCSpeciliast but with 4gb ram and upgrading it myself to 32gb 2400mhz. Will be using for games, development and graphics design.

 

The 1060 is a 1080p card while the 1070 is a 1440p card. It's a big difference.

 

Hi everyone!

I am new here but been reading this thread for some time.
Got the Clevo P775DM3 with a 1080p display and the i7 6700K, GTX1080.
I use my system for gaming and as a desktop replacement hence the decision to go for a desktop CPUwith a powerful GFX card.
The system was bought from Scan in the UK, under their re-brand 3XS (its scan.co.uk owned brand).
For the first few weeks it was running fine. But now after it "burned in" I am having issues, notably, random restarts, black screens (with the sound stuck in a loop) and BSOD's.
I used to build my own PC systems and tinkering with PC's is my thing, but this time I can't really do that because of the warranty.
My CPU was running on 1.25V, but when I went to the command center it often bumped into the 1.3V area and above.
I was wondering if this might be the cause of issues & running on 4.2GHz seems to be a pain.
Currently down-clocked to 4GHz and set the voltage in BIOS to 1.2V with an offset of -160mW.
Systems seems to run ok for now but haven't done any stress testing yet on CPU.

When I got the system first time I ran Furmaark for 15 minutes on GPU without a BSOD, it was running hot though in the 90C¬92C temps.
I tried to run Furmark again lately after I had several BSOD's and ran it for approx. 5 minutes and the whole system just froze, the temp was 91C on the GPUthen restarted by itself (black screen).
Didn't attempted to run it again after this.

I reported this to Scan where I bought the machine from and they said GTX1080 had some issues with thermal pads (i reckon around the VRM area), but IDK how relevant this is to the "Mobile Platform" versions!? They also clarified that the cooling solution in this laptop is powerful enough to handle the heat output and that the CPU is definetely not the root cause! Not really convinced atm. I am very tempted to send it back .
Did any of you suffer from similar issues with the same spec?
I can't delid the system, because I want to keep the warranty.
It would be helpful if you could give me some insight and maybe help me decide the next step.

Cheers for any help!
Steve

 

ADvice:

Don't run Furmark - run firestrike at worst.

Don't go with such a large under voltage, leave it default, set the multiplier to 4.1 on all cores, leave everything else default for CPU.

Don't OC the GPU

Go in CCC and set fans profile to overclock, power to performance. Run with Fn + F1 when running any stress test.

After trying those steps, it should be fine.

I get 1.5V sometimes while on auto, but no crashes, no BSODs, it works like a charm!

EDIT::: I also had some random restarts a while ago. Reinstall windows, reinstall drivers and run with the above settings fixed it on P775 DM3

 

Cheers !
Will try this out!

 

Undervolting should be done like overclocking in small steps.

 

Hi Steve. The solution to your situation might be a simple one. If the GPU driver version has changed since you purchased the machine, you might want to go back to the original driver that was working correctly. The Green Goblin (NVIDIA) is notorious for pushing out half-baked garbage to the public to see what happens. And, as already mentioned, don't use Furmark. The burn-in test has been known to kill GPUs.

 

Cheers guys!

 

Hi everyone!

Back again with another issue!
As Georgel adviced I used his settings.

Now when I run games the fans tend to spin on maximum, but here comes an issue after a while the fan's turn down even though the game is still running and it can't keep up cooling down the laptop and in the end cause overheat.
I have tried every control panel there is available for the Clevo but no help.
Every time I run an intensive game (after all thats why you buy such a laptop) it fails either just random blue screen or just turns the fans down even I am pressing the Fn+1 combo, no help.
The fan's stop running on Max.

Any advice would be appreciated?

I might end up returning this laptop and getting one from an estabilished brand like MSI with good cooling solutions.
I would be really sad to do so because the HW in the CLEVO is just great, the only thing bothering me is the fact it can't keep up with the cooling being insufficient.
Would have expected from such a powerhouse to have better cooling. After all it is a 2.5k £ Laptop, Desktop Replacement and one would expect it to run flawless without any hickups from the get go without deliding and all modifications...

 

Increase the distance from the laptop and table and it's back and wall.

This might help.

But fans on FN+1 should run on Max fans for indefinite, I left mine to render and it was still running after more than 2 hours, if your fans don't run at full speed, on FN+1 it might mean that you have a defective unit and that you need to either return or repair it.

Or maybe it's a EC / Bios problem.

 

Easiest solution. Get rid of Clevo Control centre and XTU.
RESET BIOS.
Use the Automatic fan profile.

If you really have to , then undervolt the processor from the BIOS.

 

Ok guys so to clarify,
I am playing on a notebook base with 2 fans for start to make everything cooler.
I do not run XTU by default, not installed on my system.
I tried with and without Hotkey/Control Panel, tried all versions.
No change it is still doing the same.
Once I start the game the fans blow on max (100%), for a random duration, sometimes all day sometimes it's just after 15min of play when my fan just drops RPM and goes to the default max which I believe is 80% (I suspect this not confirmed) of fan speed. I notice the drop in RPM immediately, the MAX speed hum is gone.
OFC while in game this means the temperatures from the normal 70C go as high as 95C.
I cannot sustainably play like this and whenever I press Fn+1 again the fans kinda restart but not to the max. RPM just the actual, which is 80% (I suspect).

Another thing to note when the machine is not under load (game) it can run on max fan speed as long I want (tested).

After this happens I exit the game, wait for a bit a voila I can put the fans on max by pressing Fn+1 again...
It is mind boggling and would appreciate if someone could tell me what can cause this!?

I will be getting rid of this laptop and switching to a weaker config with mobile CPU, from MSI if I can't fix the issue.

I was wondering if this is a hardware fault or a driver error. I keep all my drivers up to date from the clevo website.
But it doesnt matter which drivers combination I have tried so far, the issue pressists and I believe this was happening since the get go with this laptop.

I am really frustrated handing out so much cash for a laptop and then it just doesn't work how it supposed to...
Very disappointed with the Clevo atm.

 

Do you have CCC Installed?

Also if you do, you need to uninstall that and do a BIOS/NVRAM reset.