The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Clevo W870CU Review With ATI 5870m

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by The_Moo?, Mar 5, 2010.

  1. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    [​IMG]


    The_Moo™'s Clevo W870CU Review
    Also Known as Sager NP8760
    My machine was purchased from Gentech PC .


    || UnBoxing || Pictures || Screen || Keyboard || Touchpad || Temps || Benchmarks ||

    <marquee class='html-marquee' direction="left" behavior="scroll" scrollamount="12" >Welcome to the Review. Feel free to request any test.</marquee>
    boxing


    UnBoxing​

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    pictures
    * Pictures [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    screen
    * Screen
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    The screen is GREAT. The screen viewing angles are amazing as you can see in the pictures. The screen itself is the BEST LED I have ever used. It beats the G73, Alienware M15x, and Dell inspiron 1545. The screen is VERY bright and perfectly fine for a classroom or outside on the bench. It is no RGB LED which I owned on the Alienware M17x R-2 but I think this one is better since it doesn't burn my retinas.

    keyboard
    * Keyboard
    [​IMG]

    I have owned a MacBook 13 inch and an Asus G73 and i have found chiclet keyboards to be nice but it varies greatly on the quality of the keyboard. I have to say this Clevo W870CU keyboard is sturdy and has no flex from typing. All the keys are responsive and perfectly spaced. I find myself never having to glance down to find a key because my finger slipped. The only thing that could make this keyboard better would be a backlight keyboard. Also a non-trucated number pad would be nice

    4/5
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    touchpad
    * Touch pad
    [​IMG]
    I have owned MANY laptops in the past year and this touch-pad is nice and is near the top of my list. The touch-pad itself is slick, its smooth to the touch right out of the box. It's not like the touch-pads that are slick and your fingers stick and it takes 2 months to build up residue to help the process. Right out of the box with clean hands its ready to go which is a very nice touch. Its also very responsive, responding to the slightest touch.

    5/5
    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]


    * Noise


    temps


    Temps and Cooling​


    [​IMG]


    Prime 95 Small TFT + Xtreme Burning on Furmark STOCK PASTE

    [​IMG]


    Reapplying of Paste

    [​IMG]

    CPU Synthetic Test


    OCCT Results:

    Intel Burn test:


    3d Mark 06:


    3d Mark Vantage:


    GPU Synthetic Test




    3d Mark 06:


    3d Mark Vantage:





    Actual Game Temps​


    Crysis @ Very High 3x Loops [​IMG]


    Resident Evil 5

    [​IMG]

    GTA 4






    benchmarks


    Synthetic Benchmarks​



    3d Mark 06:

    3d Mark Vantage:
    [​IMG]









    Actual Game Performance​


    [​IMG]

    Devil May Cry 4

    ALL high NO AA

    [​IMG]


    Resident Evil 5

    [​IMG]

    Conclusion






    Pros :
    Cheap
    Great Cooling
    Plain
    Gentech PC was great
    Allows customization
    Fast

    Cons :
    Plain
    No formal OC abilitys
    Short battery
    No illuminated keyboard









    <form method="post" action="Mailto:[email protected]"><textarea name="comments" cols="50" rows="10" class='html-text-box'>Add a comment to here to speak to me directly</textarea>
    <input type="submit" value="Email me" class='html-text-box'><input type="reset" value="Start Over" class='html-text-box'></form> [​IMG]
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 8, 2015
  2. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Test with a 920Xm


    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 5, 2015
  3. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,140
    Messages:
    6,547
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Nice pictures. Good point about the keyboard. You can disable the touchpad with Fn + F1. Benchmarks look pretty low.
     
  4. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Its here :)
     
  5. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    waiting patiently. ;)
     
  6. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    i am waiting as well, come on HURRY UP! :)
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    No OS .... Be a little bit
     
  8. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    any pics yet? Especially of the 5870.
     
  9. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    I have some they are uploading .... My upload is only 128
     
  10. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Cant wait for the pics of the system, as well as in game maybe some videos at some point as well? and of course Benchmarks :)
     
  11. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    couple pictures

    Inside pictures will be up later

    These are just quick shots while windows is installing
     
  12. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    thanks for the pics, what do you think of the plastic case?
    as i was thinking about getting a custom paint job on mine but wondering if i should knowing that it has a plastic case
    have you have the NP9262? if so how does the back of the case compare to it?
     
  13. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    The ati is green. :eek: :p

    Also if you can test the multipliers with evga and the 920. See how far it will go on all 4 cores.
     
  14. Judicator

    Judicator Judged and found wanting.

    Reputations:
    1,098
    Messages:
    2,594
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    56
    So being plain is both a pro and a con?
     
  15. k9hydr4

    k9hydr4 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    202
    Messages:
    1,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
  16. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    its plain which is nice but at the same time i like style and a few flair ;)
     
  17. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    How about some vinyl stickers. Maybe one of an Alien head and you can confuse the crap out of people. ;)
     
  18. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    Not up to me.

    updated a bit more
     
  19. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    thanks for the more pics, could i get a pic of the back of the screen without the plastic on it? is it dark/black? or a bit brighter - thinking of getting a custom lid design on it :)
     
  20. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

    Reputations:
    3,952
    Messages:
    3,580
    Likes Received:
    283
    Trophy Points:
    151
    Green? Yeah, that's weird, are you sure it's an ATI? :eek: I thought it looked like this... [​IMG]
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 29, 2015
  21. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    The cards are only red if ATI makes them

    They can be purple ... Its up to the card makers which color they will be
     
  22. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

    Reputations:
    3,952
    Messages:
    3,580
    Likes Received:
    283
    Trophy Points:
    151
    I guess Clevo wants them to match the nvidia ones, which I thought were all kinda greenish.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 29, 2015
  23. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

    Reputations:
    7,074
    Messages:
    8,376
    Likes Received:
    94
    Trophy Points:
    216
    So far the few games i have run are ALOT faster with the 920 then they were in the G73 so this has exceeded my expectations already :)... Not sure what was going on with the 920 in the G73 i had though ....

    My 920 is an ES btw but it was given to me FREE for helping someone out and i wanted to find a good machine to put it in, this seems to be it :D...
     
  24. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Still no bin OC'ing in the bios?
     
  25. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

    Reputations:
    7,074
    Messages:
    8,376
    Likes Received:
    94
    Trophy Points:
    216
    I didnt even look yet but i will in a bit... i was dumping all my stuff over to the secondary drive so i have the machine taken apart ATM.... Ill let ya know in a few...
     
  26. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    None for me ;)

    PBE Mandrake ;)
     
  27. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    is that a dent i see above the trackpad?
     
  28. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    no that is the microphone

    there is a little microphone there to indicate it ...kinda dumb
     
  29. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Ah okay i thought that it might have been, just wanted to check :)
    what colour is the Back of the lid? is it a kind of dark that this pic would work well with HERE ?
     
  30. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    1,073
    Messages:
    6,171
    Likes Received:
    535
    Trophy Points:
    281
    Great pics Moo.
    This one looks like a keeper.
    Scrolling ticker on top is awesome.
     
  31. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    The Black on the lid is a flat black. Its the same black as the palmrest and my MS Habu mouse
     
  32. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    is it a dark black colour? or more lighter?
     
  33. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    dark

    I posted temps please check them
     
  34. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    the GPU got quite hot, you worried by that?
    what specs did you get? is it the 15 or 17inch model?
     
  35. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    17 inch, The GDDR5 RAM hit 90 but the Core was only at 70c
     
  36. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

    Reputations:
    1,870
    Messages:
    7,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Yeah, did it really hit 90C?

    That is too hot, IMO. I want to see temps during a long gaming sessions.
     
  37. k9hydr4

    k9hydr4 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    202
    Messages:
    1,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    73C on the GPU. Did you just run a benchmark? What is the idle temp?
     
  38. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    The GDDR5 RUNS ALOT HOTTER THEN GDDR3.

    All 5870's will be like this

    idles in the 40's to low 50's
     
  39. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

    Reputations:
    1,870
    Messages:
    7,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Ok, well we have the same issue as the G73.

    How do we know which temp is which out of the 3?
     
  40. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    maybe the:

    ShaderIO is the Shader
    MemIO is Memory
    Thermal Diode is the core
     
  41. k9hydr4

    k9hydr4 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    202
    Messages:
    1,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Dang. I was hoping for much better temps than the 285.
     
  42. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Yeah that is VERY hot :(
     
  43. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

    Reputations:
    2,766
    Messages:
    4,106
    Likes Received:
    3,942
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Having had 2x RGBLED machines in the past (M6400's) and constantly laughing/servicing my boy's 1737 with RGBLED while WoW just tanks on the 3650 w/ a T9900 @ 1920x1200, it is overkill brightness wise and the off reds and constant icc profiles depending on applications was annoying.

    Many pics/videos just looked unnatural to me and were situational depending on the numerous calibrations/icc's required, IMHO.

    This thing looks beastly, but like I said, after the M17/Whitebook noise levels of death, I'm gun shy about the noise levels while gaming.
     
  44. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

    Reputations:
    1,870
    Messages:
    7,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    205
    That is what I thought, but after much debate in the G73 boards no one is for sure that hwinfo32 is reporting the correct temp for the core.

    And if what you say is true, then the diode is the temp that got to 90C right?

    It mirrored my MemIO temps IIRC.

    Stress again and report back with your findings.
     
  45. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    i now have to rethink my decision again, i was planning on getting the 15inch
    model but with temps like that the thing could melt, so its getting this and maybe causing a nuclear explosion or getting the slightly less powerful Envy but not create a Nuclear explosion
     
  46. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

    Reputations:
    3,973
    Messages:
    13,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    455
    People keep in mind that was firmark.

    The sky is not falling

    HWinfo reports the highest temps which is ALWAYS the GDDR5 like all you ignored once again the core only hit 72c

    Very quite compared to the M15x and M17x and specially the Whitebook

    Ask Quadzilla
     
  47. k9hydr4

    k9hydr4 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    202
    Messages:
    1,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    There has been no record of nuclear explosion on shipping laptops, even the high end gaming ones- Less powerful GPUs are capable, but tend to be boring.
     
  48. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

    Reputations:
    428
    Messages:
    3,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    You Never Now It Could Happen, I Am That Unlucky :(
     
  49. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

    Reputations:
    7,074
    Messages:
    8,376
    Likes Received:
    94
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Yeah its very quiet and the only fan i hear running albeit constantly is the GPU fan ..

    Im very happy overall :)...

    No OC in the bios at all ...
     
  50. k9hydr4

    k9hydr4 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    202
    Messages:
    1,321
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Spoken by someone who owns a 9262. Furmark is one of the most taxing test out there. I doubt you'll hit those temps playing Crysis, more like 74C at most.
     
 Next page →