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    Clevo N960kr owners thread

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by foresterx, Apr 14, 2021.

  1. foresterx

    foresterx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have bought this model with a 3070 gpu which is 115w+15 , the temps are sky high with an i7 10700 and i cant undervolt it, can you reccomend and tricks.
    Drivers are obsolent on clevo site
     
  2. BrightSmith

    BrightSmith Notebook Evangelist

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    • Please post exact temperatures of cpu and gpu and the user cases (gaming, stress test, etc)
    • Which paste do you use?
    • Have you tried undervolting with Throttlestop instead of Bios/CC?
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    MSI afterburner should be able to modify the GPU voltage.
     
  4. LaptopLife

    LaptopLife Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have this model also with the 10700 and 3070 and my temperatures are fine with repasting both, CPU and GPU, and adjusting my GPU curve to a maximum of 1725 MHz @ 0.818 V. It's a pity we're not able to undervolt the CPU on this system. For the previous model (N960TF), the Insyde BIOS tool could be used to unlock hidden BIOS functions (see here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0tf-owners-lounge.826484/page-5#post-10948877) but I'm not sure if it works with the N960KR as well (BIOS is even more crippled with this model). So far I didn't dare to use it as I don't want to brick my machine 3 weeks after I bought it and temps are acceptable. And I don't know if unlocking the hidden functions will allow us to unlock undervolting capability…
     
  5. N2ishun

    N2ishun Notebook Evangelist

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    Have you tried Intel XTU for undervolting the cpu ?
    Works fine on mine.
     
  6. LaptopLife

    LaptopLife Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, undervolting options are not shown; the same goes for ThrottleStop, undervolting is locked. Likely due to plundervolt. Both worked fine on my N960TF (i9-9900 + RTX2070) before. However, Intels thermal improvements for the i7-10700 (it's a 10900 with 2 cores deactivated) pay off for me, it actually runs cooler than the i9-9900 with –80 mV. With a little help from the undervolted GPU.
     
  7. chudoument

    chudoument Newbie

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    Hey! Can you please tell me if it is possible to unlock the BIOS on the clevo N960KR model? Also is it possible to lower the voltage on the processor using THROTTLESTOP or XTU? Thank you.
     
  8. LaptopLife

    LaptopLife Notebook Enthusiast

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    It may be possible using the Insyde BIOS tool which was working fine with the N960TF (same chassis with RTX2070), however, I haven't tried it yet. For more info, see this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0tf-owners-lounge.826484/page-5#post-10948877

    Undervolting is not possible but it might be with an unlocked BIOS.
     
  9. LaptopLife

    LaptopLife Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was able to unlock the BIOS following the instructions in this video:
    However, do it at yout own risk; for me, everything was working perfectly fine. As far as I know, there is only 1 BIOS version, however, you should double check because overwriting your BIOS with the one you unlock without them having matching version numbers might brick your machine. Also some resellers might put their own BIOS on the machine.

    Things that happened to me:
    * I had to do the procedure two times, the first time the flash worked perfectly, however, the BIOS was not unlocked.
    * After the second flash with the same BIOS file, the BIOS was unlocked
    * After flashing you will experience several reboots; this is normal (had this also on the N960TF after resetting the BIOS by removing the battery).
    * My system wasn't recognizing the NVMe drives anymore (I have two in RAID 0); setting the mode to AHCI, rebooting, switching back to RAID 0 and rebooting again helped and Windows was loading normally.

    I DID NOT overclock anything and I don't recommend doing so; I just enabled the overclocking menu which in turn makes it possible to undervolt using ThrottleStop. Also you cann now use XMP profiles (but 1.2 V RAM only).
     
  10. txcpaul

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    What BIOS do you have? Mine is .06 his in the video is .04. I dumped my Bios, and used this, but no luck it's not unlocked.
     
  11. LaptopLife

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    Mine is 1.07.04, didn't know there was a newer version available. Did the flash of your modified BIOS work? As I've mentioned, I had to flash the same BIOS twice before the unlock was successful (I did not change the BIOS in between the flashes). I don't see any reason while it shouldn't work with your BIOS if you can open and modify it with the tool.

    BTW, for me it was a little disappointing, any more than -30 mV and the system became unstable. Seems like the 11900 is already pushed to its limits by Intel. Anyway, I can now build in faster RAM with XMP enabled :D
     
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    Intel really are squeezing the chips for everything they have.
     
  13. LaptopLife

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    Does anyone else have WHEA "event 17" (corrected hardware error) in the Windows event log? It's referring to device ID 4C01 which is Intel PEG10. Connected to this is the RTX 3070. It happens every few minutes but the system works normally…Intel 11900.
     
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    I can only see generic advice about that error of updating the chipset drivers, BIOS etc. Have you spoken to your reseller?
     
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    Thanks for your reply. Based on your answer I remembered I've updated the chipset driver recently. I reverted back to the original one on the DVD that came with the laptop and "event 17" did not occur anymore (laptop was running for several hours). However, I've noticed sth. Today I'm working on the internal screen meaning optimus is active and the WHEA warning is back. But when I have an external screen connected to the dGPU (internal screen deactivated), the warning does not occur anymore with the original chipset driver.

    So:
    updated chipset driver: "Event 17" with both, internal and external screen
    original chipset driver: "Event 17" only with internal screen/optimus active, not with external screen connected to dGPU.
     
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    So long as the system behaves it should be ok to ignore.
     
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    Update: Event 17 is completely gone for more than 24 h now (both in dGPU and optimus mode). This includes a ~5 h long gaming session. I've deactivated PCI Express Power Saving in the Windows power settings. Many people seem to have problems with this on 11th Gen Intel :/
     
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    Nice find, I guess it's not handling the speed changes on the PCI-E interface gracefully. That could impact your power consumption.