CLEVO NH77DPQ Owner's Lounge

Discuss Here Guys. In my opinion it is the most value option laptop. What do you guys think.

In europe some offers for a barebone with 10870h going for 1100 euro.

I would like to know which lcd panel is it using? Some sites saying

17.3" FHD 144Hz 72% NTSC. Some saying 144hz and 240 hz.

Any Idea which panel is it and how many nits is the Brightness and is it 100 /Percent SrGB.

Please discuss. I am really thinking buying it.

 

I purchased through rjtech (I am in the United States) and I didn't see any displays with 240 Hz. Also unsure of the nits but I generally hear good things about Clevo screens. Also my order is still in the mail and I have a sort of silly question. I know the i7-10870H is a mobile chip so I'm assuming it will be soldered to the motherboard. But I have heard discussions of Clevo/Sager laptops with upgradeable CPU's. Is this exclusively for models with desktop CPU's? Or do they use CPU modules similar to the GPU modules?

 

the upgradability is now only for desktop chips. mobile chips cannot be anymore. When you receiv it please go to device manager and check which display panel it is

 

Hwinfo and the like can be a bit more specific on the panel in use rather than the hardware I'd code.

 

I checked the display info. Says this is the panel in my unit https://laptopmedia.com/screen/lg-lp173wfg-spb3-lgd065b/ It looks great in my opinion. The maximum brightness can even get too bright for me in certain situations. Haven't tried using it outside or anything like that though. I have noticed one other potential issue with the laptop though. Under load, my temperatures seem a little bit high. My unit was sent with aftermarket thermal paste applied and I haven't checked it or tried reapplying yet, but my CPU temps are 85-90 Celsius and my GPU temps are pretty constant at 86 Celsius under full load. I know these components in particular have a tendency to run very hot and I haven't seen many people discussing safe operating range for the temps on these components probably because they're relatively new. Should I be worried about these temps?

 

I have the NH77DDW which is last years model of the same.
Mine has the 10875H and a 2060....and I got it from RJtech also.
It's a 144hz screen, and it is quite nice.

Undervolt it....I have a -.100 and it is not noticeable in operation but helps with temps.
I usually keep mine in entertainment mode in control center...fans stay quiet and temps stay low (cpu in the 35-40 range always).
It's been rock solid in every aspect except wireless...
It has the AX201 and *sometimes* it doesn't like to connect at bootup and requires a bit of fudging.
I have 3-4 different wireless cards that will slip right in to try but it's not enough of a problem to bother taking the back off again.
Stuff in sig line.

 

Mine has been pretty good overall with wireless. It's got the AX1650x. Under some very specific circumstances, it seems to lose network connection but it's hard for me to say that the card is the suspect because I also run an always-on VPN with firewall enabled. Also the only times I have had weird network drops is when I am using the laptop to mine crypto using NiceHash (which I know is not advised but I like to tempt fate). This is probably also the reason for my high temps because I'm not sure if I should be expecting the laptop to maintain a decent temp under a constant load like that. I just had high expectations since I was getting the aftermarket thermal paste and the laptop seemed to have an excellent cooling system. Also I use the ethernet port whenever the wireless is acting up.

 

Hello guys. I have this same laptop, and mine is running at the same temps as Julz337's machine even with aftermarket thermal paste having been applied.

I'm curious to know which program you're using to undervolt, please? I used to use Throttlestop on my prior machine, but it doesn't seem to be working for this CPU? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: I should add that I've attempted to enable undervolting in the BIOS, but I didn't see an option to do so. In addition I was under the impression that undervolting wasn't possible with this particular CPU? I'd be very happy to know that it is if that's the case.



Edit 2: After doing more searching I don't think undervolting this CPU is possible due to microcode updates due to the plundervolt issue without a UEFITool, and Universal UFR Extractor which would remove Intel's update to the BIOS. Which to me the lack of user freedom, and control is ridiculous considering this plundervolt exploit requires physical access to the machine itself.

I have to say that I'm very disappointed in Intel, and after being an Intel user for 30+ years I'll be looking to AMD moving forward. I game quite a bit, and for this CPU to run at 87 celsius for hours on end it WILL burn out faster than if I were able to undervolt.

Anyway, c'est la vie I guess.

 

I use Intels XTU to undervolt and it works perfectly.....as long as you use an older version, the latest out seems to not work on my lappy.
Look at the yellowed area in this HWinfo shot.
It's a unlocked processor, no voltage limits, etc etc.
Now I dunno if yours is the same, but mines a keeper.
BTW, 37*C while I just ran photoshop to do this screengrab so it can't be that bad.

 

I appreciate the info, and reply. Much appreciated. I'll check into it.

I'd just add that aside from the heat, and potential lack of ability to undervolt this CPU; I love this laptop though it is my 3rd Sager in a row, and I've continually been pleased with them. The Intel CPU issue is a whole other beast.

 

So, I've had a look with HWInfo, and it shows mine as being unlocked as well, but still not able to change the voltage. That said I've been unable to find an old version of XTU, and an old version of Throttlestop didn't help.

On that note the version of my bios is the only one that exists; at least on the Clevo site. It's looking more and more like I'm going to have to go with the temps I get, and/or disable the Turbo.

Thanks again for the reply, and assistance.

 

http://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/
L: repo
P: repo

BTW keep it in entertainment mode in your control center app, fans on auto.
I dunno why I get such good temps as I've never repasted, it's as it came from Clevo (thru RJTech).

Be careful flashing the bios, it's not as straightforward as you might think.
There's plenty of tutorials out there so it's useless me typing out the whole dealio...just google it up.

 

BTW, here

 

I appreciate all the help I've received in this thread. I've supposedly had a better thermal paste added, and a graphite pad, etc etc. This is with fans on highest setting, ambient temps in my home around 70 degrees fahrenheit (21 C), and the laptop under a full load during gameplay. See below for my temps.

I'd just add that as an average user I'm really not concerned about some "plundervolt" vulnerability. Whether it's possible to perform remotely, or not. The fact that I can't undervolt this CPU is ridiculous; especially considering these temps. Again, as I mentioned before it WILL cause this CPU to die early.

SO this will be my last Intel product, and I've been using them since the early 90s. I'm very disappointed in Intel for setting, and forgetting this issue.

FOR ANYONE READING THIS CONSIDERING THIS LAPTOP!

***Do NOT buy this laptop. Save yourself the trouble, and buy an AMD powered laptop if you can. Sager/Clevo isn't the problem; Intel is the problem.***

Edit: I took this screenshot while the CPU was cooling down. It sits idle at anywhere from 39-44 C typically.

 

Thank you for this. Unfortunately the oldest BIOS version on there would likely already include the microcode update as that was pushed out to manufacturers sometime last year, and the oldest one available is Jan of 2021.

 

The kicker being you go and buy an AMD Ryzen laptop and realize you also can't undervolt it. Beyond that, you go to change some CPU/Power settings and download RyzenMaster; but it's unsupported on Mobile Ryzen. You're just as limited as with Intel.

This is a scenario in which even if you buy a processor that allows what you want, a microcode update in future can take those settings away. Unless you have some RollBack/safety features in place. The user actually has to aggressively safeguard their hardware these days to prevent malicious tampering from the manufacturer.

 

That is sadly very true. The only thing I'd mention is that the AMD Ryzen CPUs operate at a lower voltage, and tend to have better temps from the light reading that I've done on the subject. I may well be misinformed though as I admittedly haven't read much on subject as I don't own one.

It's quite a shame that these manufacturers feel the need to save us from ourselves. If I want to allow my system to be vulnerable to the plundervolt vulnerability I should be afforded that right. Let the user make the determination for the hardware they purchased, and assume any risk associated with the security vulnerability.

 

I'd like to see it as an option too, but that has risks to those who have it locked down too (as it can be disabled).

 

You're of course correct. Ultimately though as the end user I'm left with a subpar mobile CPU solution; by a company who while seeming to care for their customers has actually created a perfectly legitimate reason to be required to purchase a new CPU more frequently than in past generations. That of course being due to a heat problem that I nor Sager can properly manage due to how hot these CPUs inherently run coupled with the lack of an undervolting capability.

I will definitely find my solution elsewhere even if it means I have to compromise. One way or another. Maybe the laptop days are coming to an end for me after over 10 years, and a desktop will return as being the proper solution for gaming where cooling can more easily be managed, and I'd gladly build it myself. All in all it's a shame we're at this point, and I say that as an Intel owner since 1989, or 1990.

I'd just add that there are no hard feelings toward Sager, or XOTIC PC. You all have done precisely what you set out to do, and you've done it well enough that this is my 3rd or 4th laptop from you all, and I've been pleased every time. This is solely an Intel issue, and I truly hope that moving forward the COO, or CIO, or whomever has the ability to make that decision at Sager takes a long hard look at the possibility of AMD mobile CPU solutions; if they are better in the heat mitigation realm of course.

 

I do hope their next process is a winner, though it seems unlikely.

 

Is anyone else having an issue with the auto-dim feature? I've turned it off in Intel's Graphics Command Center, and it seems to persist in auto-dimming the screen when whats being displayed is darker. Apparently it's an energy saving feature though I can't imagine why it's being engaged with the computer on AC power.

Anyone else having this issue, or perhaps know of any fix?

 

Have you updated/re-installed the intel IGP driver?

 

This worked. Thank you much Meaker!

 

No problem

 

Hello again guys.

I'm having an issue now with the following error in event viewer "Failed to initialize LanternRock SDK: 0x00040201. Reason: S_NO_OPTIN (telemetry not opted-in), Event ID 258, which was logged after I had just booted maybe 45 seconds to a minute before. In addition the screen went black, and I could hear beeps anytime I'd move the mouse. I had to cut power, and reboot to fix it.

Any ideas what may have caused the aforementioned error, or what it may be indicative of? There isn't much out there on that particular error when googling.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

It's an Intel software issue.
Try here ?
https://community.intel.com/t5/Item...et-Intel-DSA-up-and-running-again/td-p/681877

 

Odd that that would cause a crash.

 

Nice find there. I actually have recently installed the Intel DSA. I'll make sure I'm fully updated, and uninstall it. Maybe that'll help?

I agree. I thought maybe it was anecdotal, and the crash was caused by something else, but it was the only odd looking entry in event viewer around that time frame.


Thank you for the replies guys!

 

These newer systems are real finicky about installing drivers in a certain order, if it isn't just so all sorts of weird crap goes on.
Did you do a fresh install of winderz on your system ?
If so, follow the EXACT order to install the drivers as they are laid out on your driver disk.
I'd have to really do some digging to find my disk right now or I'd lay it out for you.
After that initial driver install it doesn't seem to matter as much when you update drivers what order they are in.
Since you've had an intel driver issue two different times I'm starting to think that this is probably your issue.
I have what could be construed as the exact same system and I have never had a single issue like you've described.

 

Out of curiosity, I went ahead and installed Intels DSA and ran it.
Works fine here and you can also see the hardware *almost* the same as yours.
No issues at all.

 

I always find the driver assistant type apps just annoying.

 

Feel free to ignore/delete

 

Hello All!!

I just received this and i am AMAZED at it's portability and there's only one drawback..
Here's the story:

I was looking for a new laptop on amazon and found one that i "ehh liked" then i found this beauty on ebay for parts and not working without the screen and no post or boot let alone any lights like they said and all that bad stuff..

I decided to give it a shot and bid on it accordingly,

Thinking that i will be out bid any moment at the last 10 seconds at $99 US (my maximum was 180 lol i know i am a cheapo lol)
I turned out winning!!!!!!!!!

180 on THE DOT! 0_0

total was 219.34 with shipping it and tax and all..

SO!!!

I received it just today along with also my POWER ADAPTER for it!?????

LoL

WHAT ARE THE ODDS i thought!

SOO!!!!
I started doing basic stuff and easy diagnostics on it and well...BAM!!!!! Video on the TV!!
I thought wtf are the odds of a near 1,500 dollar laptop from 2020 with a 10th generation i7, 16GB RAM, AND not to mention a 1660ti 6gb work for me!? Now, forgive me if i seem to boast this but I am still floored..???? Now the bad part and it's not really that bad at all.. as it works perfectly..

But the ONLY draw-back i have is that it doesn't have a screen... does ANYONE know where i can get a screen for this without paying an arm and a leg for it??

I have another 17.3 inch (same size screen)
But the screen is an Innolux N173FGE-E23 REV C3 that i already own..
Would something like this even work???

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133839686255

With all of this positiveness that is happening to me do you think i should try it???

I am an amateur techie and have fixed MULTIPLE laptops for friends and family numerous times but i just don't want to screw up a good thing lol you know what i mean?

The Innolux N173FGE-E23 REV C3 is a 30 pin and the clevo nh77dpq is a 40 pin...obviously right there it will not work that way but is there an adapter of some sort i can get to fix this onto the clevo nh77dpq??

ANY help is very appreciated!!

-David

 

Just A Friendly Bump... Help Please.

 

Hey, notebookcheck always list panels in the units they review, but something like a 120hz plus 1080p panel will be 40pin.

 

What is the EXACT model # ?
Perhaps with that someone can help find a suitable panel.
I know it's not a NH77DPQ because those didn't come with a 1660ti.....but came with a RTX 3060 and up.
There should also be a sticker on the back of the panel....post a pic or type out the numbers.
https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1385&lang=en

 

(facepalm) lol
My bad it is this

https://xoticpc.com/products/sager-np6877cq-clevo-nh77dcq?_pos=4&_sid=9f4d0db81&_ss=r

sorry!

 

Hey Meaker!

Yeah but the screen i have from another laptop is a 30 pin..
Is there some sort of adapter is what i was asking i'm sorry i am not good at explaining things lol

Because i have seen this adapter and was wondering if it would work to convert it from 40 to 30 pin..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133839686255

 

Hi,
The exact model number is the clevo NH77DCQ


Sorry about that I will post in the appropriate forum!

 

My NH77DDW shows
Monitor Name (Manuf): LG Display LP173WFG-SPB1
https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/LP173WFG(SP)(B1)/

That adapter won't work very well....get a reasonably close display with the correct pin number.

 

Something like the above would be perfect. 30 pins will be 60hz 1080p only.

 

Would the screen resolution really matter??

I see a lot on the internet like a 40 pin lcd 1600x900

I am trying to spend the LEAST amount of money on this too lol

as long as I get display on the screen I am a happy camper!!! Haha

 

More than that they use an extra lane for bandwidth. You can have more than needed of course.

 

So the adapter may work you mean??

(this adapter: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133839686255)

Because i also found this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373602642570

and a 40 to 30 pin too...

I know I KNOW I am a cheap ass lol

I just cannot spend that much on JUST a screen when i can try and use the one i own even though it's a 30 pin.. but that's just my honest opinion i am frugal..

I get these parts today and will let you guys know if YAY or Nay.. wish me luck! lol
And it may not work anyways and may have to break down and buy one anyways... oh well..

 

Welllllll....sure you can cheap out, but, big but (sir mix a lot big but).
The display has to fit the dang laptop doesn't it ?

 

It’s a 17.3 too

 

Same exact width and height ?
And thickness ?
Lotsa different specs for a 17.3" so be aware of that.

 

Oh ok,

i'll have to double check but it fit in the chassis pretty well...

Thanks BTW.

 

your right!
The LCD is too big.. (damn!)
So i guess i'll have to spend 150 AT LEAST???

for a new screen??

Thanks Again,

-David

 

Well,
My "experiment" didn't work lol

Oh well i found a screen with a 40 pin connection with the same size etc..

We shall see if it was worth it.. ;D