Personally I'd just save my money and grab a 120Hz 22" monitor to game on, using the 60Hz one with better colors for watching movies on the go and whatnot.
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Ordering mine from HID this upcoming week, as soon as Donald sends me my quote. Phoenix, you sold me on the company.
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one thing I didn't check, to what angle can the lid open to, 180? tried to find that in other reviews, couldn't find it.
edit one more question this one for op was "stock" with ic diamond (as most resellers offer that)Last edited: Feb 19, 2017 -
@Meaker@Sager Can you please clarify once and for all what happens when we purchase these laptops with the following configuration:
M.2 Slot 1: samsung 960 Pro 4x pcie nvme (1TB)
M.2 Slot 2": 1tb standard m.2 SATA stick
1.Is this a supported configuration? (XOTIC and GentechPC are offering)
2.If configured this way, what happens to the speed of 960 Pro? does it slow down?
3. Or.. Is it true that if you use 960 Pro 4x pcie in slot one, then m.2 slot 2 becomes useless. If so, why is XOTIC and GentechPC offering this? I am unable to find anything definitive neither in SAGER site, or anywhere else.
Even on this review, it is implied that slot 2 is useless once 960 Pro sits in Slot 1. Which is contradictory to what the vendors are offering.
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Really liking this machine, and thank you @HTWingNut for this review. It really helped my decision.
I'm on the default 60 Hz IPS. It's generally good, but I'm experiencing a screen door effect on mid-blues and a few other colors. The picture linked below actually looks normal on my screen until I zoom out a bit—then the screen door effect I'm seeing in normal usage appears in the picture. Has anyone else experienced this effect on the default panel?
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http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10468251
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So my understanding is, to make sure I've finally got it right you can have option a or b:
a) 1 or 2 x sata m2's and any number of sata 2.5's
b) 1 x pcie m2 and any number of sata 2.5's ( the sata m2 slot is disabled when you do this).
If I got that wrong please correct me.
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1x PCI-E M2 + 2x 2.5" SATA (btw you can get 2.5" to SATA M.2 converters and run it that way)
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On a hunch, I went ahead and purchased Evo 960 Pro (512GB), and Evo 850 M.2 Sata stick (1TB). And used my previous 2.5inch SSDs.
Here is my current configuration:
-Slot 1 / PCIe x4 : 512GB Samsung EVO 960 Pro NVMe
-Slot 2 / SATA stick 1TB (Samsung 850 EVO - 1TB - M.2 SATA SSD stick
-2.5 inch SATA slot 1: Samsung EVO 840 1TB 2.5 inch SSD drive
-2.5 inch SATA slot 2: Samsung EVO 840 1TB 2.5 inch SSD drive
combined total: 3.5TB. l working, and all drives showing.
When you put in a PCIe x 4 Samsung 960 Pro slot one, m.2 slot 2 does NOT deactivate. I am confirming that all drives show up fine and the channels are independent.
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Well, I haven't been here in a while. Good to be back in NBR. Also good to see @HTWingNut (Or Mr. Wingnut) is still alive and kicking. In case you're wondering who the hell this guy is and why I seem to know you, I'm Forge from like... 3 years ago. Damn it's been a hot minute since I've been here on NBR.
Aaaanyway, I finally jumped on the Sager train and have had this machine for about a week.
As you can see, big crack near the power button. Definitely plastic.
(And to those wondering, the repair process thanks to Ken at Gentech and Alan at Sager was painless. Yes, I was disappointed that my machine came to me cracked, but at least the whole fix was completed within a week)
I have an NVME OCZ RD400 256GB installed in one m.2 slot (the main one?) and some SATAIII 128GB Samsung whose model escapes me PM851.
The OCZ gave me
Code:----------------------------------------------------------------------- CrystalDiskMark 5.2.1 Shizuku Edition x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s] * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2468.865 MB/s Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1067.644 MB/s Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 736.451 MB/s [179797.6 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 544.738 MB/s [132992.7 IOPS] Sequential Read (T= 1) : 1347.767 MB/s Sequential Write (T= 1) : 966.960 MB/s Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 42.897 MB/s [ 10472.9 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 163.182 MB/s [ 39839.4 IOPS] Test : 1024 MiB [C: 86.0% (204.5/237.8 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec] Date : 2017/03/02 20:22:34 OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 14393] (x64)
Code:----------------------------------------------------------------------- CrystalDiskMark 5.2.1 Shizuku Edition x64 (C) 2007-2017 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s] * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 527.863 MB/s Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 141.186 MB/s Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 283.770 MB/s [ 69279.8 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 139.746 MB/s [ 34117.7 IOPS] Sequential Read (T= 1) : 501.217 MB/s Sequential Write (T= 1) : 140.927 MB/s Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 23.358 MB/s [ 5702.6 IOPS] Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 114.446 MB/s [ 27940.9 IOPS] Test : 1024 MiB [D: 0.1% (0.1/110.5 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec] Date : 2017/03/02 20:28:44 OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 14393] (x64)
All in all, I'm liking this machine so far, and thanks again to Mr. Wingnut for helping me make the leap to Sager.Last edited: Mar 3, 2017ROMAD27, TomJGX, MSI_Lover and 1 other person like this. -
Do you notice much light bleed with this screen?
I was looking at getting this same laptop except with the 1080P 60Hz IPS screen.
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I have the stock 60hz 1080p screen, and I do notice some slight bleeding along the top (left side) and a little near the top of the right side. I personally don't notice it much, even on a black screen, but your mileage will vary if you pay attention to those kinds of things
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None of it affects when the screen is bright. I notice only when the whole screen becomes pitch black.
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My current 2013 model Sony Vaio S15 came with a 15.5 inch 1080p IPS screen, it has great colours and I never once noticed any light bleed on it. Because of this I cannot stand seeing the slightest amount of light bleed.
I have been reading about a light bleed being common on the 1080p 60Hz IPS screen.
Would there be any difference if I went with the 4K Samsung or 4K Sharp (Eurocomm has it I think on their Clevo 650 minus G-SYNC) IPS panel with this laptop? I'm not a big fan of the 120Hz screen as its a TN not IPS, I have been spoiled with the vibrant IPS colours.
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I believe this is the same one used in the Dell XPS 15, from what I seen based off the Dells it seems to be a solid high quality screen. I don't really care much for the 4k but it seems now there aren't as many good 1080p IPS screens to use. Other users have stated this screen does have excellent vibrant colours and viewing angles. I am still trying to find more info on this panel before pulling the trigger. -
Is the gpu factory overclocked compared to 650RS? I see that 3D performance is around 10% higher give or take. The very modest speedincrease due to Kaby lake shouldnt make thatuch difference.
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Drivers have changed since launch, the clocks are set the same however.
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Planning on getting this soon. Is there any benefit for getting 7820hk vs the 7700hq if im just probably just going to be gaming? Also would 8gb ram be enough?
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How hot does it usually get, would i need a cooler in general?
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How do you guys feel about this machine? I really wanted to get a Tornado F5 for the replaceable desktop parts inside and the Thunderbolt 3 port on it however I think it will be just a little too big and heavy for what I will be doing with it and carrying it around with me everywhere plus a bit more expensive. I am considering this laptop now instead but torn on if I should give up a TB3 port going forward as I feel it will have a lot of use especially if I plan on keeping the laptop for a while. Is the 7820k worth getting if I don't necessarily plan on overclocking if the cooling is not good enough (is there any other benefits or performance increases over the 7700HQ aside from OC? Undervolting?). I know it's been asked but is the cooling fairly good and reliable in this machine or will you have to baby it and really keep an eye on everything and tweak things to make it run at reasonable temps while gaming all the time?
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Hi. It will be first time to buy a sager laptop. Planning to get the 8157 model with 120hz. How is the build quality of this laptop? On the fence on this one vs the new Razer blade 14. Slimmer and reputable brand.
Will the build of the laptop last 5 years? Planning to take it out for mild traveling.
Planning to use this laptop for all around. Work, gaming, watching tv series, downloading etc. Gonna move to a condo unit so looking for something compact compared to a desktop.
I wouldn't consider myself a heavy game user. I play FF13 and other rpgs in steam. Most graphic intensive will probably be nba2k17 unless I see a game that I like next time.
By the way willit be alright to reformat it into a windows 10 pro that is not original?
Really appreciate if someone can help me decide. Thanks! btw only sager is available in my country no HIID so no prema biosLast edited: Mar 26, 2017 -
So the normal TIM sucks !!!!
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Forgot to mention that the temps with the stock tim where with fan in fullspeed and the ones with IC7 is with auto speed
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Anyway, lol Razer is awful. They are reputable in that we've heard of them, but there performance, quality control, and support is literally the worst in the business. Like comically awful.
The P650HS build quality is very sturdy except for the lid which has some flex. The rest is pretty rock solid.
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The desktop parts are nice but you wont be able to upgrade past the 7xxx series and there is no such thing as a standard MXM design any more.
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You have displayport and USB 3.1 which are the main devices that thunderbolt emulates.
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The author though does state that igpu tolerances are lower so you need to be conservative when setting your numbers. I've tried including the igpu undervolts and have had my system freeze twice while playing bf1.
Wondering if undervolting works just as well on battery vs being plugged in. Also what are the parameters when using a hybrid vs. Discrete profile?
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Thank you so much for the reply. I think I have made my mind to order. Never owned a high end laptop before so I was skeptical about the build quality of sager.
Has any of you encountered backlight bleed? is it noticeable? Been hearing it a lot on this model. Thanks!
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For gaming stick with the 1080p or 120hz 1080p
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