[Review] Sager NP6852 :: Clevo N850HK1 Review [GTX 1050Ti]

I got to mess around with Sager's NP6852 (Clevo N850HK1) this week and did a little review on it with my thoughts as a consumer. I was really impressed with the power of the Ti version over the standard and I'll admit I didn't think the performance gain would be as significant as it was. This is an excellent laptop for people looking into affordable 1080P solutions that won't have to worry about the problems a 2GB frame buffer will cause now or down the road as it did with RE7 and For Honor. I hope you like it.

 

Nice video

 

Thanks Meaker

 

@Equatis At timestamp 4:16 you called a chip the "Intel HD 630 chip." This is actually the HM175 Platform Controller Hub (PCH) chipset. Graphics is done on the CPU die.

 

Ahhh OK good catch. I'll throw an update in the description since Youtube is saying goodbye to annotations.

 

@Equatis Thanks for the review! I've been going back and forth between this and the NP8155 and this is the first really extensive review of this specific model that I've seen. I've been having to go off of videos for the NP5855 but there are just so many differences between the two- the chassis is the same but the screen, keyboard, and more are completely different so reviews on the heat, fans, etc is a huge help. This is a really welcome review!

 

@felaptop No problem sir. I'm glad you found it useful for your purchasing decision. The 6852 chassis is listed as "model a" in the user manual while the 5855 was "model b" and it felt great versus the 5855 and my tank-like 8153

Anyhow, I hope you enjoy the laptop.

 

@Equatis How would you compare it to the NP8153? I know the NP8153 uses the Skylake, has a shinier 1070 (whereas I'm just looking at the 1060 in the NP8155), and a battery draining G-SYNC (the gaming is less important for me as I'm mainly using it for an everyday laptop and light video and photo editing). But I'm pretty sure it's the same chassis as the NP8155.

I'm checking out your NP8153 review video right now but how would you compare them head-to-head? For instance, how do you feel about the keyboard (same?), temps and heat distribution, fan noise, audio, and just general feel for things like weight (specs are similar but how about feel), durability, etc? For instance, I love the removable battery in the NP6852 and the $300 I'd save but the build quality on the NP8155 looks a bit nicer.

 

I stayed up too late last night playing Wildlands so my brain is running a bit slow. Are you asking those questions regarding the 6852 vs 8153?

 

@Equatis It's more of a "could you compare the 6852 to your 8153 in those areas" as I'm considering the 8155, which is pretty similar to the 8153 (1060 vs 1070 and non-gsync monitor aside).

 

Excellent review! And yeah that thing with the 4gb vs 2gb vram is a must-have. Even if it's only the non-Ti version of the 1050.

 

Ok got it.

Keys feel identical. I never did a decibel reading on the 8153 since I hadn't investing in that tool at the time, but the 8153 seems a little louder than the 6852. Durability is great on both and the 6852 feels like a feather by comparison. I think the 8153 was almost 2.65kg compared to the 6852 that is 2.26kg.

If you're going to use it just for light video and photo editing the 6852 would be great, but if there's any chance you'll start playing modern games in the future it would be nice to have that GTX 1060.

 

Hmmm... how comes that? In your review, you wrote that the Sager 6852 has 332 grams for the battery. But that would make 2.26kg+0.332kg=2.592kg. Not much different to the 2.65kg of the Sager 8153???

 

The laptop weight in video includes charger. People requested battery and charger as separate weights so that's how I've been doing it.

 

Uh, what the 2.26kg has already included the battery weight??? Damn, that's an amazing weight. Now you also solved my nagging question about how much the weight really is (shops always listed either 2.3kg, 2.4kg, 2.5kg). Thanks again!

 

Quick tip: this is one of those models where you can have better performance by getting a more powerful PSU.

 

No problem. If I ever do any more videos I'll make it a point to mention that the laptop weight includes the battery.

 

Crazy. I would have never thought of that.

 

Like using the 200W brick from the NP815x series?

 

Use the 180W AC and fine tune the system.

 

They should be pretty easy to get hold of.

 

Thank you @213NSX.

The laptop I used in that review is somewhere between Texas and California in the back of a UPS truck Maybe the Sager sales team could help you with that one?

 

@213NSX That looks really awesome. My wife and I have had a strong desire to move to the Northwest for years since we visited my sister that moved her family to Edmond's. If we ever do make it, I'd definitely come join you. Never played LOL, but I could certainly learn.

 

I should be getting my N850HK on Friday from Metabox, Australia's Clevo reseller/builder.
Very excited as it is my first new PC in 10yrs, been using an old 14inch Sager and a desktop also about to be completely rebuilt, both on XP. and 10yo.
AAARGGGHHHHH!! LOL

I will post up my thoughts and impressions along with the builders test scores/temps which I asked them to provide.

Apart from Equatis's video review off you tube (Well Done!) there are numerous European PC site reviews available which were all mainly very positive., especially compared to other brands models in same class.
All gave a recommended and Best Value rating. Price/performance ratio was rated best in class but of course that depends on how you configure it and the quality of the components.
(Google translate needed to read the reviews).

Mine will be i7700, 16gb DDR4 2400 RAM and a Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD.500 Gb(very highly recommended on many PC tech sites)
No other HDD required.

The Auto video switching between on board graphics and the 1050Ti ( done thru Optimus I believe) should help a lot with temps and fan noise as I will be using this for general and multimedia use rather than gaming initially.
Fan noise and speaker quality were of particular concern given my bad experience with the old Sager dual core. Had poor speakers and a loud whining fan that turned on almost on startup and it was a very basic build, on board graphics only.
An initial inspection before ordering at Metabox left a good impression of speaker loudness and sound and fans when it was running a graphics benchmark on battery only .
More to come when I have it and experimented with settings etc.......

 

Yes the GPU will shut off when on the desktop and so the 2nd fan should stay off.

 

Some reviews for anyone interested--

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/origin-pc-eon-15-s

Laptop Mag just voted it best budget gaming notebook under $1000USD. See here-
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/sub-1000-gaming-laptops

More Reviews-

http://mogztech.com/eluktronics-n850hk1-pro-premium-gaming-laptop/

Also a New review from Toms Hardware-

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sager-np6852-gaming-laptop-review,4955.html

A few of my own observations that differ from the Toms review-
The first of these is that my CPU and GPU are not getting as hot as they did in their tests.

In a 23C room, running separately several times, Prime 95 stress test saw my CPU go to a Max of 85C and Furmark had my GPU at a Max of 80C.
This was with fan speed on Auto, switching manually to 100% fan speed and the temps were slightly less.
If you add 10C to the room temp to make it a very hot 33C then Add the same to the above temps then 90-95C in a very hot environment.
The max TDP for the i7700HQ CPU according to Intel specs is 100C.
So I dont think with normal gaming and multimedia use the cooling is really a worrying issue.

Your results may of course vary.

Regarding build quality, I don't think it is quite as bad as they describe it -

The main hand rest and trackpad area is very firm , the area has only a very slight flex IF you press very firmly with your fingertips at certain points and try to deliberately flex it.
The keyboard in a few spots has a very slight flex IF you push abnormally hard on the keys and hold them down with that hard pressure.
Unless your stab at the keys individually very hard when typing you wont notice any with normal key press pressure.
I dont touch type but henpeck at keyboard with 2 fingers and a light touch and dont notice any flexing whatsoever with normal usage.

Yes it does flex if you push on the screen cover or try to open the screen against the firm hinge pressure on on side only instead of in the middle. Yes this could have been made out of thicker stronger plastic.
If you were very rough with the screen or hit the closed cover very hard with something very solid then you may do some damage to the screen but again with normal care in handling a PC it shouldn't be an issue.
I'm sure the same could be said of some Aluminium covers too.
Most of the mid and higher end Clevo PCs have an Al chassis so that is always a different buying option.
This is the entry level range.
The plastic is very resistant everywhere to fingerprint smudges which is great .

I am having an issue with the colour display as I have described in detail in my posts in this thread-

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-n850hk-keyboard-q-need-help-please.803287/

Any feed back re whether your keyboard is behaving as mine is in incorrectly displaying certain colours in the entire front row of keys would be appreciated in that thread as I am trying to see if this is a global problem with this model PC (or just a badly engineered and quality keyboard design) so I can provide feedback to my Australian reseller.

I will update this post with a few more observations as time permits.
Any Q feel free to msg me.

 

Picked up a n850hk1 from http://www.metabox.com.au/

Intel i7-7700HQ Quad Core
NVIDIA 1050
256Gb SSD
2Tb HDD
RGB Keyboard

Coming from from Alienware m18xR2 - 675m GTX SLI - 2960xm cpu i am amazed at the performance of this new clevo laptop. Itt was meant to be a 1050 2gb model
but shows up in all test apps and games as a 4gb model so scored there!!



only thing i wish is they had metal chassis

 

That would drive the price up a lot.

 

Hi, I just ordered the xoticpc version of their Sager NP6852 today!! I did swap out the 1T 5400rpm for the 7200rpm and kept their configured 128g m.2
Added os back-up on usb stick.

Free notebook cooler, IC diamond paste, and mouse pad . $1206.00 I forgot to get a extetnal DVD drive. Will latter!!

I want to play Battlefield1 first!!

http://www.xoticpc.com/g55-excalibur-15-6.html

 

External disk players are really common so that's certainly not an issue, enjoy the machine Battlefield 1 should be a very nice introduction.

 

Is there any Unlock Bios out like Prema yet for these newer models?

 

I received my Xotic G55 Excalibur (NP6852) through Xoticpc on May 12th. So far, so good. Mine came with a m.2 128g ssd and a I upgraded the 1T sata 3 to a 7200rpm. It says the m.2 supports both sata or pci-e nvm.(One M.2 SSD SATA or PCIe Gen3 x4) So, can I replace the m.2. With a pci-e x4 ?? It says it supports it. Not sure if what type of m.2 card is using for the 128g drive on my NP6852 from Xoticpc?

Also, I'm confused, are all the blue usb ports 3.0 or 3.1 and the C port? Xotic has listed the C-port as 3.1 online in their specs under the G55 Excalibur the one I ordered. SAGER Has listed as 3.0 for the usb C-port on their site.

Really confusing on the M.2 drive options and USB.

Thanks, if you can chime in.

Pat from Xotic has been very helpful also.

Duane

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Your users guide will tell you about the ports I suggest giving it a good read and familiarising yourself with the system.

Yes you can put in a PCI-E M.2 instead of the drive, if you want to be sure of the type look in device manager.

 

Read this my post and thread above - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...72-owners-lounge.801290/page-10#post-10520224