So who is buying the GTX 680M?

Not me. Maybe get one in a year if the performance is proven and if I need it.

 

The 680m is what I've been waiting for. I'm hoping it will be able to dual serve me as a gaming and CAD solution until I get to a level that necessitates a Quadro card due to the size of the drawings/assemblies. By then I'm hoping to be able to score a good deal on a 5010m or at least a 4000m. That way I can truly have my cake and eat it too.

 

Given that you already have the 7970M I understand.

But overvolting this beast should be one hell of a ride

 

nah, im not a gamer I need GPGPU Compute performance and OpenCL/GL, and im afraid that since its essentially a desktop 670 it is not going to be suitable in those areas

( goes back and waits for a 110 die )

 

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If I can't get my laptop with a 7970M before my trip, I probably will get a 680M. Nothing wrong with the 7970, obviously as I've ordered one, but I do like nVidia cards a bit better. I have a GTX680 in my desktop and I just love the thing, so I'd be inclined to have the same thing in my laptop. However I have no problems with AMD cards, have one in my current laptop, and since I wanted a computer sooner I figured I'd get it.

In terms of compute performance, depends on what kind you need. The 600 series are all kinds of fast at single precision FP performance, over 2 Tflops in the real world on my testing. No surprise, single precision FP is what games use. If you need double precision or integer, then ya you are going to want a Quadro (or maybe FireGL, I haven't looked at AMD's performance on things).

 

Awesome news, people! 1344 NVIDIA CUDA Cores that's insane) Hope the resellers will offer these cards right after computex!

 

most newer pro apps are using double integer, including CS6, where 600 series kepler gforce cards are getting raped. im hoping we get something later but for now we had to stuff 7970's in a few laptops and 7900's in desktops for this years production units ( CUDA is now no longer applicable in CS6 or AVID and no new quadros or tesla cards estimated until october )

for now a 7970 desktop is about thrice as fast as quadro 5000, and a bit more up on the gtx680 in real world app performance = large cost saving in hardware and labor

 

I may pick one up after we see some numbers and if I can find a retailer that sells the card stand-alone. It may be a good replacement for my GTX 485M in my NP8150.

If this truly is on par with the desktop GTX 570 I will be picking it up as long as the cost isn't truly absurd. (I'm expecting very freakin expensive, by absurd I mean that it would make more sense to buy a new laptop with the card in, which I don't think should happen)

 

GTX 680M is a downclocked 670. You know, that is 3% below the performance of GTX 680. We will almost have a downclocked 680 in our notebooks soon

 

If you're in for GPGPU performance you're better of with a 7970m, it has a superb OpenCL performance, also double precision peformance of Kepler is horrible.
A 7970m will be a lot cheaper than a 5010m and still perform better.

 

Ahh. I use Sony Vegas and that is all 32-bit FP (per channel), which is pretty common in video. Same reason as why you'd do it for game graphics applies to pro video as well. So pretty much a gaming card does the trick real well. Also it has a CUDA path and an OpenCL path so fast on either card.

 

Is it going to be compatible with a Clevo X7200?

 

7970M CrossFire works, proof: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/658796-clevo-x7200-7970m-crossfire.html

No doubt the 680M should work too.

 

hmmm ive never thought of vegas as pro video , but if it has an openCL path i may try it on both a 7970 and 680 desktop in cuda vs CL performance

 

Lets hope

Any 580m SLI users here? or any other xxxM SLI? I'd like to know if you had much trouble with your multi gpu setup, concerning microstuttering and stuff. With my 6970m's I had nothing but microstuttering in BF3 despite having 80+ fps. Never felt smooth.
So would you go SLI again?

 

Wow, who'd of thought the 680M would be a downclocked 670. That's impressive! I hope that when Sager starts offering it, it isn't too expensive. I like to think of myself as a gamer but on PC not really too much. Maybe I would more often if I had a computer that could handle it more. I'd probably suffice with a 650M to be honest. But now, since I'm looking to future proof myself with my next laptop to last me 5+ years (this has lasted me 4 now but the performance sure hasn't).

My dream setup: i7-3720QM, 680M, 16GB 1600MHz RAM, Intel 6300, SATA III SSD with at least 180GB storage. I'm not buying until September so we'll see how much I have.

 

I'm pretty scared of the price of this...

 

Price does seem ridiculous, but we really need proper benchmarks.

 

Depends on what you mean as pro. I don't do anything for broadcast, just for the university I work for. It is pretty heavy hitting though, movies have been cut on it, and Nightline is cut with it. One thing it has up on some other NLEs is it works on native formats, it doesn't use intermediaries. Now that does mean it hits the CPU/GPU harder for decoding, but on the other hand it takes less disk space and there's no generation loss. I much prefer it (mainly for space).

I got in to it back in the day because I'd used it when it was just a pro audio program. I find its timeline real easy to use. I found Premiere strange (now remember this was years ago).

At any rate my point in general was just that if your GPGPU stuff is 32-bit FP, the 600 series are great because that is what games use. If not, not so much. Reason I point it out is that a lot of GPGPU stuff is since that was all you could do back when it first started. I've seen a lot of people get worked up over the poor DP performance and then when I've asked what they do it turns out to be nothing that uses it, they are just whining for the sake of it .

I don't have a 600 series at work so I haven't done much testing with it, just at home and there it is used only for games.

 

Yeah no kidding....OriginPC has it listed as $286 more expensive than the 7970m.

I know a lot of people will buy it regardless, but I have a hard time stomaching 100% price increase over the 7970m for 10-20% performance increase. (and those are nvidia marketing numbers according to that graph in the original post)

 

O.O JESUS! ok now im not regretting not waiting for the 680M... that would've been too pricey for me.

 

In this case price will make the difference for most. I honestly am a little bit of an AMD fanboy so I'd go with the 7970M even if the 680M was only $100 more.

 

admittedly, origin tends to be on the expensive side for their upgrades, but even 60% of that price increase is too much for me.

 

Admittedly, price is going to a concern for most unless the buyer demands the absolute best in performance or of they are a diehard fan of one company over the other.

There are those out there still that have delayed their purchase until the nVidia card is released and they may be able to rejoice soon as their patience may pay off.

 

If I can find someone running Solidworks, Inventor, or something of the sort that will vouch for it - I'll gladly explore the option. But until then, I'm not just going to rely on performance numbers to ensure compatibility with these applications. It could very well come down to the fact the drivers AMD produces, just dont jive with these programs - thus hindering the performance it may truly be capable of. Something I'm just not willing to risk. I'd rather spend the money on the Quadro, and know its going to work -without question.

 

I don't think you will be able to get a 680m before the 7970m's are ready to go...

Mythlogic sells GPU's, but you should read the bios update petition before counting on any upgrades.

Silly fearmongers. Just like W+E+space, not everyone actually uses that but it still caused mass order cancellations.

 

I can vouch for OpenCL performance in CS6 in the desktop radeon 7970 vs gtx 680. the gtx 680 is about 35-40% as fast. and matches up with a benchmark from THG. ( mercury render engine in photoshop and premire pro )

secondly pro apps that use double point FP ( some high end video editing apps for example are 4 times faster than gforce kepler. the only one I personally use yet is a beta of the new MASSIVE

go hang out at creativecow.com in video editing, CAD/CAM and prepress design forums, weve been discussing it for a few months

right now a 7970 in an m17x is about 145% faster on renders in some apps as my q5010 in elitebook 8760W. New quadros could be different when they come out ( at high cost )

 

as for pricing, nothing really new here folks. the 7970M stand-alone goes for about 450-550$, and taking the already known upgrade prices into consideration, the 680M stand-alone should be around 750-850$. juuust like the previous gens, no surprise there

 

No it is an if-then kind of situation. I have an order in right now for a 7970M system, I have since May 11. If I get a ship date fairly soon, I'll let the order stand because I'll get it before I leave, which was my goal. If I don't, if it looks like it'll be delayed until after I'm gone, I'll cancel. I don't want the laptop sitting in the receiving room at work while I'm away, might not be there on return.

In that case, I'll wait some time before I order. I'll wait for the 680M to be ready, and also maybe reevaluate my vendor choice.

 

well I do want to point out that this time around nvidia priced their desktop components more competitively so we may get a treat. MAY! I wouldn't get your hopes up or anything.

 

I doubt it.

 

I'll wait and see how it goes, I'm gonna wait until next year, sometime between 8 and 10 months from now, maybe even latter after the 700 mobile series comes out, if the price drops some I'll buy it.

For now I can live with the 670M of the P151EM1 I'm buying...

(Hoping for compatibility with the P151EM1. )

 

Really? It looks more to me like AMD priced there's less competitively. 580 -> 680: same price. 6950 -> 7950: +$100. 6970 -> 7970: +$200. Granted some 580 have dropped in price a little now that the 680m is here.

 

so notebookcheck has some first 3dmark benches with the 680M and it looks pretty much on par with the 7970M: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M - Notebookcheck.com Technik/FAQ

scroll down for the results

theyre exchanging blows at like +/- 5% or so

 

Using X7200 with GTX 485m (OC at GTX 580m clocks) WITHOUT any issues.
Never had one!
Before that I had the 6970m Xfire in the unit, and it really had many issues... though I think it had to do more with the combination of X7200 and the 6970m, because Alienware M18x users didn´t have that many problems.
Will go for GTX 680m SLI if it turns out they will work in X7200!

 

long time no see, tirenz

still a bit disappointed, a flagship card is a trimmed down core-1344sp, though it have the best performance per watt........

maybe 680m have the oc potential like 580m!?
580m oc to 560ti which 170w tdp
680m oc to 670 which also 170w tdp
(though talking "tdp", but nowdays power draw to the card almost 100% transfer to heat)

 

Looks interesting... Let's see how it plays out!

 

Pretty sure I will be, hopefully availability isn't as late as was being said (Aug/Sept). I have never personally used an AMD GPU, but I feel like nVidia has better drivers, Optimus support, CUDA, etc. I know it will be more expensive, but should be worth it.

And anyone who thinks the 680M will not be faster than the 7970M, lol. nVidia isn't stupid.

 

Well, I Wonder Who Could Have Predicted That???
Seriously, someone needs to shake things up a little, this is getting old. Maybe 7990m and 685m (someone will want to break the tie) will come out and change things.

I see you have a new sig. Did you leave due to the 7970m's, too?

 

Yes, hurtfully so. You see, I have a 16th June laptop arrival deadline, that cannot be budget even slightly.

 

Who cares if they are constantly within the same range, its actually typical of a competitive business environment. Why would Nvidia release something with like 40% performance, which would likely cause them significantly more to make only hurting their profit margin.

As long as they are having to produce results every year like ATI already has, than competition is working and the only real winner here is the consumer!

 

I'm not in the market for one, but if I was, I wouldn't pay the premium for the unproven 680M. On top of that, the 7970M with it's current performance and it's OC'ing ability plus it's low price is just too good to trade up IMO, cash is king and the 7970M leaves you more of it while still giving you epic performance with OC headroom for even more.

 

Switching the moment it becomes possible.. ATi has a nice price to performance range but its the only gpu thats bricked on me and has given me so much driver trouble. Cant wait for the nvidia TBH especially since it allows me to use nvidias 3D now, can't wait for that honestly.

 

Comparing:
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Alienware-M17x-R4-Notebook.74805.0.html
and
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/5914/nvidia-gtx-680m-performance-new_575px.png

Battlefield 3:
7970M 34.7FPS
680M 47.4FPS
680M is 36.7% faster

Dirt 3:
7970M 64.1FPS
680M 69.5FPS
680M is 8.4% faster

Skyrim:
7970M 55.6FPS
680M 59.4
680M is 6.8% faster

Diablo 3
7970M 100.8FPS
680M 90.1FPS
680M is 10.7% slower

F1
7970M 65FPS
680M 67FPS
680M is 3% faster

Metro 2033
7970M 26.9FPS
680M 39.5FPS
680M is 46.8% faster

GTX 680M is 15.2% faster than 7970M.
Take a good look at Metro 2033 and Battlefield.

 

This doesn't make sense, according to Nvidias chart, BF3 doesn't run that much better...
Also Dirt3 should perform way better on the Nvidia card.

 

For those of us with the 3D version of the HM series, is our 580M even user-upgradeable to the 680M, or would we have to send it in to our builder? What I mean is: I think I read somewhere that 3D-Vision required soldering. I hope I'm wrong. Even for 2D games, I'd be able to take advantage of it for those games that now can reach near and above 120FPS...

 

The wait is over (pre order anyway)

 

Wow 2.5 times the price at xotic? Guess nvidia thinks quite highly of themselves....

The sad thing is if the 7970m gets delayed any further, I would be tempted to buy it if late June is the expected date for 680m. The waiting game isn't any fun.