PA71HP6-G

@Jason Novak If it's not too much trouble, I third that request. We would all love to hear what you have to say

 

@Jason Novak Make it forth, I'm looking at this one currently, need a review too

Btw does this notebook come in GTX1080?

 

No, there is no 1080 option.

 

I was thinking about buying this new model but just didn't like the design of it. Looks like Batman's personal laptop which I'm sure a lot of people would like but I would think I'd find the gap between the bezel and keyboard a bit annoying. I'm sure it's fantastic performance wise though. I was going to get the previous Clevo P67x series from one of the European resellers but I was just too late so I've bought the Medion Erazer instead.

It's actually the same Clevo P670HP6-G-Sync model with just a slightly different design that has led lights around the trackpad but no fingerprint reader and also has quite a premium look with a different rubberized black finish to the chassis. Otherwise everything is exactly the same apart from the fact I couldn't choose my own hard drives or request thermal paste etc, but as it's easily upgradable that wasn't a deal breaker. Extremely cheap as well which was another factor and has saved me a bucket load of cash but I must admit the warranty isn't great just being one year. Seems to be great so far though, as although I have heard this chassis does have thermal issues but so far the CPU and GPU have not exceeded 86C and 67C respectively under load. Fingers crossed I've been lucky.

 

What kind of loads have you thrown at it?

 

Well, I haven't as yet played any of the newest titles but have played EA's Star Wars Battlefront in ultra settings for about a couple of hours with G-Sync enabled. Other than that I've played Skyrim Special Edition and Rage which aren't really that taxing. I haven't done any benchmarks either as I don't know the software to use.

 

3dmark is still a good go to

 

Here's my 3DMark Time Spy 1.0 result if anyone is interested:
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/2655102

CPU max temp 82C
GPU max temp 57C

 

GPU temps tend to need longer loads to get good temperature readings but the CPU heats up a lot quicker so should be reasonable.

 

The design reminds strongly about asus rog notebooks. I like it.

Now the question is, how are the temps and how is the screen? We probably know speakers will be meh, which 95% of the people don't care about either way.

Could you maybe make a picture of the bottom case when it's opened? I'd be interested in the cooling system and the overall build of the board. Temps seem pretty good considering the case, which is rare (if these temps are really on load temps)

 

The screen is HD IPS matt type I believe. It also goes up from 60Hz refresh rate in MSHybrid mode to 75Hz in discrete mode with G-Sync. It's very nice. Idle temps are around 42C for the CPU and 34C for the GPU when surfing the web etc. So far during gaming the CPU hasn't gone over 89C and 69C for the GPU. I've only had it since last Thursday though so that may change.

I'm pretty sure the inside of the Medion Erazer is exactly the same as the Clevo P670HP6-G and P670RS-G as the bottom case is identical. You can see a picture of it on the 4th post here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...sager-np8176-8177-owners-lounge.804188/page-3

 

Might be true, I think the latest medion erazer series are simply rebranded clevos, earlier they were all MSI.

 

You can try undervolting CPU if you want to keep CPU temperatures lower !

 

It's just the brand they use for the barebones they have gone for yes.

 

I got this notebook too. I will make a short review today or in the next few days, if you have any question feel free to ask...

 

Thanks for the advice. After using Intel XTU I under volted the CPU from 0.000mV to -0.110mV that has gone from 89C down to 77C max in Star Wars Battlefront and 84C in Prime95.

This CPU undervolt is completely stable and I didn't get any error messages in Prime95 after three hours of testing. Intel Turbo Boost was enabled but I had to increase Turbo Boost Short Power Max and Turbo Boost Power Max to 60.00W and 55.00W respectively otherwise I would get a Power Limit Throttling issue.

 

I would like to know about the palmrest temps (given that you palm is right above the HDD), and about the sound.
What laptop did you upgrade from?
Thank you

 

First of all I have to apologize if my english will be not perfect, that's not my main language

Before this I had an Asus G752VT for one year and then an Asus GL702VM for a couple of weeks, wich I returned due to high temperatures....

I buyed the laptop from an European reseller, with this configuration:

Processor (CPU): Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM): 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 - 6.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Hard Disk: 1TB SLIM SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 128MB CACHE (5,400rpm)
M.2 SSD Drive: 256GB SAMSUNG SM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3100MB/R, 1400MB/W)
Thermal Paste: EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card: 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + Sound BlasterX® Pro-Gaming 720˚
Bluetooth & Wireless: GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-8265 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC) +BT 4.0

Appearance

The notebook appears more elegant than in photos. I was worried that a black notebook would became a fingerprint magnet, but it's not.... you can see where you put your hands, but it's not too bad... Of course it's more visibile compared to a silver notebook. The chassis seems to be sturdy and well assembled, the hinges are ok, nothing to complain! The touchpad is ok to me, and the fingerprint sensor works very well.
I like a lot the keyboard, it's a little spongy, but I like it. I also like it's appearance, it looks good, at half road between a gaming and a professional notebook. The space bar has not the same illumination of the other keys, it's not "surrounded" by light... I say this only to warn other persons that it's made like this...
My only complain is with the power button, it needs "strong" pressure to activate.... if you push it with light pressure it seems to have click it right, but it does nothing... so you need to push it again with a bit stronger pression ! It's not a big problem, it's only a bit strange, you only have to get used to it.

Temperatures:

The notebook seems good to me, at least in normal use. I've downvolted the CPU (-0,120) to reduce temperatures.
I played For Honor for half an hour and these were the temperatures:

If the notebook lays on the table:
CPU: average 75°C, max 80°C
GPU: average 77°C, max 80°C
If I put something under the notebook to raise the rear a bit:
CPU: average 67°C, max 73°C
GPU: average 67°C, max 69°C
(to make a comparison, with the Asus GL702VM in this situation I reached 84-85°C on both CPU and GPU)

I also made a stress test with AIDA64 and those are the result:

Notebook lays on the table (and with downvolting)


Notebook raised on the rear (and with downvolting)



Notebook lays on the table (and without downvolting)



These are the worst scenarios, I think the notebook will never reach those temperatures in normal use. The temperatures while playing For Honor seems more reliable to me!

By the way, even if the internal components reach those temperatures during the stress tests, the chassis remain cooler. The palmrest remain cold, the keyboard become a bit warm on the left part, but it's ok, I easily get used to it. I was most worried of the temperatures above the keyboard and on the left above the exhaust, but they are ok. It becomes hot in those parts, but nothing to be worried, it doesn't "hurt", it's only hot. You can put your hands over those parts to warm them if it's cold, lol

I think that the vents curve needs to be adjusted... The vents start running at quite low temperatures (lower than 50°C, which is low to me), and they become annoying... While under stress they become more noisy, but it's normal...

Sound

The speakers seems to be nothing special to me... they are not bad, but also not top notch... they sound loud, but the quality is not so high.... I think the sound is a little bit "metallic", not so much, but a little bit... At highest volume the quality will decrease... They could be ok for gaming, but I won't recommend to listen to music with high expectations. By the way, they are not too bad.

Display

My notebook came with a 120Hz TN Panel. This one, which is used also on the MSI GS73VR :

http://www.panelook.com/N173HHE-G32_Innolux_17.3_LCM_overview_28924.html

This is the sore point... I immediately noticed that the screen was not correctly calibrated, the colours were "fluorescent".. I found an ICC profile in a review of the MSI GS73 and applied it... the colours became better, but I think they still are not perfect... But this is not the worst thing... the panel looks grainy, expecially on white screens... I really can't stand this thing... I read that this can happen on some TN panels, and I'm quite disappointed... unfortunately it wasn't possible to chose an IPS configuration in the store where I buyed it...
I think I will return the notebook due to this panel, becouse I really don't like it... I don't know if I can say it's "bad", but it's not "good" for sure... the panel on the Asus GL702VM was way better!

 

91c CPU on a slim notebook doesn't seem bad.

TN panels grainy? never heard of it, I'll probably read up on it.

 

Grain is usually from the anti glare filter used.

 

Yes, you are right, the grain is due to the anti-reflective filter, but if I'm not mistaken this problem only occurs in TN panels ... (I'm not an expert, I just tried to find an explanation on the Internet at this situation and that's what that I found)

 

It impacts all displays in the end due to having a diffusing layer on top which by design scatters light. That's why phone screens are glossy and why you see it more on 4k panels due to the denser pixels the noise added by the filter is more apparent.

 

That's true, but there are filters and filters... the Asus GL702VM had a great display and I never thought about the filter, this one looks like having a "transparent" cloth over it....

 

Here another couple of test before I return the notebook:

Notebook on the table:


Notebook raised on the back to give more space for ventilation:

 

Yes the level of grain and anti glare are balanced and some people prefer different balances.

 

PC Specialist Defiance IV (i7-7700HQ, GTX 1060, Full HD) Laptop Review


https://www.notebookcheck.net/PC-Sp...-GTX-1060-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.273096.0.html

 

Great laptop if we don't count BIOS... I hope Clevo will fix it in some way or all interested should buy it from Prema partners and wait (don't know how long) for proper BIOS...
Clevo should also install there low profile KB like in quanta barebone...

 

you ever seen something like clevo bios update?
they never do that, chassis release and bios for this chassis and never to update this one.
That's the price for Clevo notebook, may be you get better hardware for $ spent, but you get zero support if you have failure.

 

that's totally false!

 

You have to check resellers because some do it (Clevo firstly present list of changes and then supply resellers with updates if they request). It is not their fault that some resellers decide to to nothing...

 

Indeed, many resellers are around like ourselves who have extended warranty plans and we still provide free technical support for the lifetime you own it.

 

I am looking forward to PA71ES-G because of the 1070
How was the PA71 series from Clevo, in terms of the build quality control

I heard a lot of good thing about P65...

 

See below:

^^^^ Correct. There have been two official BIOS updates for these models and three official EC updates, plus several ME updates.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...17-Clevo-PA71HS-G-Laptop-Review.284844.0.html

Don't forget to compare this to the P67 chassis (17") - P65 is/was 15" though we actually still have the P65 available as the XMG P507.

The chassis is very good build quality, all aluminium and you can easilly hold it in one hand wihout it feeling like it'll bend!!! The lid is the only part which has been commented on where it could be a bit stronger, but you don't carry the laptop by the lid so not a problem ;-)

 

can anyone confirm that i can use 1 M2 NVME + 1 M2 SATA ?
thanks

 

Your manual should let you know.

 

the manual talk about 2 M2 SATA or 2 M2 NVME ( x4 and other x2 ), dont say about 1 of each.

thanks anyway

 

Likely the controller is setup for one or the other then.