Wow! Might be a record. Member here since 2008 and this is only my 2nd post! Yet, I've purchased 2 Sagers from users and now this one. Every time I'm ready to upgrade I do the majority of my research here. So thanks to those that contribute and provide so many of the answers that I never have to ask any questions!
Anyway, the ordering process was great with @Donald@HIDevolution walking me through and answering questions. Here's the build -
17.3" Custom Built VR Ready Gaming Laptop w/ 1x or 2x GTX 1080
Free Game Bundles
For Honor OR Ghost Recon: Wildlands - Download through ...
Free Game Bundles
For Honor OR Ghost Recon: Wildlands - Download through NVIDIA GeForce Experience (Must have nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, GTX 1070, or GTX 1080 GPU installed)
LCD Panel
17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Ty ...
LCD Panel
17.3" 3K QHD (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz - 5ms - LED Matte Type Display - w/ nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology -
Display Calibration
Yes, display professionally calibrated w/ profile saved ...
Display Calibration
Yes, display professionally calibrated w/ profile saved to USB drive -
Minimize LCD Backlight Bleed
Yes, quality check and give me a panel with minimal bac ...
Minimize LCD Backlight Bleed
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Display Warranty
30 Days Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel gu ...
Display Warranty
30 Days Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel guarantee) -
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 X 200W + Vapor Chambe ...
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 X 200W + Vapor Chamber GPU & CPU Heat Sink Set - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled w/ Unlocked Prema vBIOS - Latest Updated Version once available - Contact us for details -
Prema Custom BIOS
Prema Custom BIOS - Latest Updated Version
Processor
HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Over ...
Processor
HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700K Quad Core Processor, 4.2 GHz (HIDevolution Overclocked to 4.7GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra includ -
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra + IC Diamond for Delidded CPU
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interfac ...
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra + IC Diamond for Delidded CPU
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface + IC Diamond on CPU, IC Diamond on GPU
Memory
16GB (2 x 8GB) Dual Channel DDR4/2400MHz -
RAID Options
RAID 0 (striping)
M.2 SATA or PCIe SSD (for RAID configurations)
HIDevolution Approved 2TB (2 x 1TB) M.2 SATA SSD -
M.2 SATA or PCIe SSD (for RAID configurations)
HIDevolution Approved 2TB (2 x 1TB) M.2 SATA SSD -
1st 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
2nd 2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
Empty HDD bay (with caddy/adapter)
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ B ...
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2 -
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English -
Operating System Reinstallation Media
OS Reinstallation + Drivers USB Flash Drive -
Office Software
None
Power Adapter
330W AC Power Adapter (supports 100-240V)
Extra Power Adapter
330W AC Power Adapter (supports 100-240V) -
Audio
Foster Audio Speakers x 2
Back-lit Gaming Keyboard
Anti-Ghosting, Custom Macro Back-lit Gaming Keyboard
Keyboard Language
U.S. English
Branding
No Logo on LCD Cover and Bezel
Warranty and Service
3 Year HIDevolution Limited U.S. Warranty + LIFETIME HI ...
Warranty and Service
3 Year HIDevolution Limited U.S. Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical -
Gaming Accessories
Cooler Master NotePal U3 Cooling Pad with 3 Movable Fan ...
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Awesome man! Congrats on the new beast!
Let me know when you get it if you want me to help you tweak it!
Here's what the tweaks consist of:
1- Uninstallation of all the Windows Store Garbage Apps
2- Removing all Windows 10 Privacy Invasion stuff like Telemetry, sending your keystrokes to Microsoft, automatically installing suggested apps in the background, allowing Microsoft to conduct experiments on your laptop, disabling automatic driver updates through Windows updates, disabling Windows 10 ads, disabling cortana, etc.
3- Removal of nVIDIA and Intel Telemetry
4- Adjusting a lot of options in PC Settings like disabling Windows Tablet Mode (you have a laptop not a tablet), disabling suggestions appearing in the start menu, disabling automatically connecting to Paid WiFi Hotspots, disabling Game DVR which reduced performance in games, and a lot more.
5- Replacing Cortana with a much better search tool that finds results instantly
6- Restoring the classic Windows 7 Calculator and Windows Photo Viewer
7- Restoring the Classic Windows 7 Start Menu
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@Phoenix I saw your video on youtube on EVOC P870DM3, its really fantastic. But i have a doubt that how can i change the colors of keyboard keys of EVOC P870KM1 as we find it with msi laptops because you didn't told about this in your video.
I have asked this question to Ted as well yesterday and he alluded me to use windows utility software to do this, what is your opinion on this? Did you do this with your laptop as well?
And another question is that is it necessary to choose the display caliberation option provided by HIDevolution or is there any need to choose it at the time of purchaseSpartan@HIDevolution likes this. -
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So do i need to download Clevo Center's Flexi Key utility or HIDevolution provide me when i purchase the laptop and if yes, then how can i download this software?
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@Phoenix So do i need to download Clevo Center's Flexi Key utility or HIDevolution provide me when i purchase the laptop and if yes, then how can i download this software?
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Clevo P870KM1 Drivers -
@Phoenix Absolutely! Thank you for offering. I've been putting off the jump from 7 for exactly those reasons, specifically #2. I would certainly welcome the help. I'll tag you when it comes in as well as what I can pull from you YT videos. Beemer fan here too Have an e36 and X5M.
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That F83 is a beautiful machine! I drove one at the factory early this year, @Phoenix. No question, bought my 1st one in 03 and I will always have at least one BMW.
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@pheonix i contacted to Ted K of HIDevolution and he told me that I can overclock the GPU using Prema vBios, but I can't find any youtube video or even article on google which can illustrate me how to do this? Help me please....
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@Phoenix i contacted to Ted K of HIDevolution and he told me that I can overclock the GPU using Prema vBios, but I can't find any youtube video or even article on google which can illustrate me how to do this? Or can I do this with the help of Clevo Control Center, what's your opinion?
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
the Prema VBIOS does NOT allow you to overclock, it's simply a VBIOS that can unlock certain controls like more voltage, prevent, throttling, etc...... It does not have any interface for you to play with anything, you can overclock the GPU from the Clevo Control Center OR using MSI Afterburner.
there is no video online for the VBIOS, it hasn't even been released yet AND, there's nothing to see in a VBIOS
Benefits of Prema VBIOS:
• Power throttle disabled
• Over-voltage slider enabled and adjusted (up to a maximum of 1.2v)
• Activated and adjusted thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)
• Core overclock slider limit raised
• Power consumption meter activated
• Fixed 3D voltage base-line in order to stabilize OCs and voltage-match both cards in SLI systems (based on average ASIC)
• Thermal protection @ 92c (once*91c are breached the system throttles volts and clocks in order to protect it)
• Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (AVOID those software even with stock vBIOS)!Last edited: Jul 10, 2017Donald@Paladin44 likes this. -
@Phoenix Can i also overclock the CPU using MSI afterburner?
When I saw NCIX tech tips channel's video "How much VRAM do I need" then Linus Sebastian, the video's presenter alluded that having more than one GPU in a laptop doesn't always give better performance. And yes, he also told in the video that if combining two 8GB GTX 1080s doesn't mean a total of 16GB of VRAM in the laptop.
2. Can you please guide me that should I go with two GTX 1080s or with only one GTX 1080?
Because HIDevolution offers me an option of buying two GTX 1080s at the time of purchase with IC Diamond between the GPU and its heat sink and Vapor Chamber GPU & CPU Heat Sink Set disabling the chance of overheating in CPU and GPU as this problem arrives in the hardware of alienware laptops.
What's your recommendation to me?
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Secondly, having two video cards running in SLI does NOT combine the RAM that they have. So if you have two GTX 1080s with 8GB of VRAM on each, you essentially still have 8GB of usable memory that is usable. That's how SLI works unfortunately.
Thirdly, if you have the money, sure, go for it, having 2 GTX 1080 in SLI is always better BUT here's the catch. In benchmarks, you would smoke ANY system out there with a single GTX 1080 anytime of the day. Period. Will you experience double the performance in games? not double, but improved performance, and that depends on the game. Certain games make very good use of SLI and scale well while others don't scale as good. So you need to look at the games you play most or your favorite games that is, then research by searching for those games with the term SLI to see what other users say about the scaling and how well they perform. Don't ask me as I'm no gamer and have no time for games.
The Vapor Chamber heatsink is great though, it helps reduce the temps
And no, you cannot overclock the CPU using MSI Afterburner, you use the BIOS to overclock or the built in CPU overclocking tool bundled with the Clevo Control Center or Intel Extreme Tuning Utility.Last edited: Jul 9, 2017Donald@Paladin44 and Auslander808 like this. -
Conclusion - A solid 9 out of 10!
Really, everything was ideal except for one small criticism. I ordered a Cooler Master U3 since I had not brought my other pad from home while working on the road since my GPU was on it's way out and knew I wouldn't be stressing the system on anything. This item wasn't delivered with the KM1. Now, mistakes are made, accidents happen. You have never even walked past a person who hasn't experienced those things. It's how we deal with those incidents that is important. It was handled perfectly. I got a reply within a day and once I gave them an updated shipping address, the U3 had to be on it's way within minutes to have arrived at my door a couple days. Well done!
I would absolutely recommend HIDevolution and will almost certainly use them in the future.
@Phoenix , just wanted to tag you as I'm about to begin sorting things out for a bloat-free W10 install. Seriously appreciate all of the effort you put in to the walkthroughs and tutorials. I think I have a decent grasp of the task thanks to those threads. One quick question though. I did have to install the stock version so that I could use it immediately for work when my old machine's GPU finally gave out. Do I need to format the drives (Raid0) like I used to when I would do clean installs? Sorry, haven't needed to start from scratch in a very long time. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
as its 4 AM here in Dubai now and I'm gonna hit the sac.
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Sorry, I should have been more clear, @Phoenix The machine came with W10 installed in a Raid 0 configuration. In XP, which was the last time I did frequent fresh OS installs, I would usually just format the single drive in order to make sure no trace of the OS was there, before reinstalling. Now, I'm not sure if I should delete everything first or just use one of the options in Start>Settings>Update & Security>Recovery?
I decided to just make a bootable USB using your OS build here http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-creators-update-bloatware-free-edition.804247/ I can use your Clean Install and Tweaks threads to clean up after that. I have a second question though. You've said to make sure I only have one drive attached before installing so that W doesn't put any files on a 2nd drive. I have a mechanical drive for data. Do I need to physically open the bottom and disconnect the drive or is it sufficient to disable/remove the drive through Device Manager? Sorry for the ignorance, it's been a while I'm great with hardware but software is a voodoo that unless I have a precise recipe, I always have a fear of screwing it up. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Also, about physically removing the second drive, here is how to avoid this by a little tweak to trick Windows to not put the boot files on your slow HDD:
How to properly install Windows on a system with multiple drives
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I was thinking it was better to remove the components vs just disabling them. Your start menu is non cluttered where mine has dozens of things I'd just assume get rid of. I didn't read through the entire Clean Installation thread because I had it in my head that I needed to backtrack and start with a no bloat install. But I'll just follow it through and get it sorted that way. Thanks @Phoenix !
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