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    EVOC PA71HS-G 4K i7-7820HK from HIDevolution

    Discussion in 'Reseller Feedback Forum' started by jsstp24n5, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    So far so good. Not worried about build time as long as the build/prep is high quality. I have vacation starting in mid-December so I am planning to tinker with voltage, clocking, setup etc and playing games non stop all through it.

    Thanks @Donald@HIDevolution for your help and discount.

    EVOC High Performance Systems PA71HS-G 17.3" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1070 w/ G-Sync

    LCD Panel

    17.3" 4K UHD (3840x2160) LG IPS FHD LED Antiglare Matte Type Display w/ nVIDIA G-Sync Technology

    Video Card

    nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 w/ 8GB GDDR5 - NVIDIA G-Sync Enabled

    Processor

    7th Generation Unlocked and Overclockable Intel® Core™ Core i7-7820HK Quad Core Processor, 2.9 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.9GHz), 8MB Smart Cache

    Thermal Interface Materials

    Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU, Gelid GC Extreme on GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces – BEST PERFORMANCE – installed by HIDevolution

    Memory

    32GB (2 x 16GB) Dual Channel DDR4/2400MHz

    RAID Options

    no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as storage drive)

    M.2 PCIe NVMe or SATA SSD Slot 1

    Samsung 960 Pro 1TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,100 MB/s Write

    M.2 SSD Slot 2 (supports M.2 SATA - does NOT support M.2 PCIe SSD)

    None

    2.5" HDD/SSD Bay

    Samsung 850 Pro Series (3D VNAND Tech) SATA3 6Gb/s 2TB SSD

    Wireless Cards

    Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2

    Operating System

    Genuine Windows® 10 Pro, 64bit, English

    Power Adapter

    Full Range 230W AC Adapter AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz

    Internal Battery

    1 x 4 cell battery - 66Wh (Internal)

    Audio

    Built-in two 2W speakers and a 4W subwoofer

    Back-lit Gaming Keyboard

    Customizable Gaming Macro Back-lit Keyboard

    Keyboard Language

    U.S. English

    Branding

    EVOC Logo on LCD Cover and Bezel

    Warranty and Service

    3 Year HIDevolution Limited U.S. Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical
     
  2. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Awesome man! Congrats and nice SSD setup you got there.

    Lemme know when you get it if you want me to help you tweak it over TeamViewer. Only for EVOC Gaming Team Members :D

    Phoenix Tweaks:

    1- Uninstallation of all the Windows Store Garbage Apps
    2- Removing all Windows 10 Privacy Invasion stuff like Telemetry, sending your keystrokes to Microsoft, automatically installing suggested apps in the background, allowing Microsoft to conduct experiments on your laptop, disabling automatic driver updates through Windows updates, disabling Windows 10 ads, disabling cortana, etc.
    3- Removal of nVIDIA and Intel Telemetry
    4- Adjusting a lot of options in PC Settings like disabling Windows Tablet Mode (you have a laptop not a tablet), disabling suggestions appearing in the start menu, disabling automatically connecting to Paid WiFi Hotspots, disabling Game DVR which reduced performance in games, and a lot more.
    5- Replacing Cortana with a much better search tool that finds results instantly
    6- Restoring the classic Windows 7 Calculator and Windows Photo Viewer
    7- Restoring the Classic Windows 7 Start Menu
    8- Turning off smart multi-homed DNS name resolution in Windows which may lead to DNS Leakage when using a VPN (must have Windows 10 Pro for disabling it as it can only be disabled via the Group Policy Editor)

    [​IMG]
     
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  3. Night Hawk

    Night Hawk Newbie

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    I almost ordered that laptop but decided to wait for the new p775tm1 with Coffee Lake processors because I need more power for rendering and video editing. How are the temps? I will order the p775tm with similar specs except with a 8700k processor and 1080 graphics card. I’m assuming my temps will be higher because of the desktop processor.
     
  4. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    Don't have it yet so can't tell about the temps. I've read mixed reviews about the thermals on this laptop, especially when both the CPU and GPU are stressed the GPU seems to affect the CPU... but am hopeful the top-end paste job, thermal pads, and with an undervolt I won't experience throttling under full load.

    The weight/thickness was the reason I didn't go with other newer Coffee Lake models. Form-factor/portability are important to me.
     
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  5. Glaargl

    Glaargl Newbie

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    This is almost exactly the same setup I have been thinking of getting, although I'll probably look to save a few bucks on the drive setup... (nice one!)

    I'd love to get your impressions once you had a chance to get your hands on it.
     
  6. Tuan Hoang

    Tuan Hoang Notebook Consultant

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    Does your laptop have uneven speaker sound? I mean it sounds louder on the right than on the left, like audio balance is shifted toward the right. I've heard a few users reporting this. Mine is a PowerSpec 1710 and has this issue too... :(
     
  7. Legion343

    Legion343 Notebook Consultant

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    Nice config you have here...Especially SSDs. However you could have gone for faster RAM (good 2666 or 2800 because with stock BIOS faster ones won't work).

    I wait for PA50 refresh with CF CPU and maybe Volta GPU in tadem. For now i don;t have reason to change my RS.
     
  8. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    Ordered 11/12. Shipped 12/7. Should have it by mid next week.
     
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  9. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    Received on 12/12. There was a small issue with the Windows Pro activation that Zoltan very quickly helped out with over the phone. But I found a pretty noticeable area of stuck blue pixel(s) that will not go away on the bottom left of the AUO109B screen. So currently I am looking to get it replaced since I have the 30 day perfect panel guarantee. Haven't heard back on that front yet. I originally had the 2 year pixel warranty, wish I had kept that @Donald@HIDevolution ;)

    Other initial thoughts so far:
    1. The AUO 4K G-Sync panel (besides the stuck pixel(s)) is very good. It's the best I've ever seen. I admittedly haven't seen the Sharp IGZO ones but this one certainly makes me happy. The color calibration was very well done as well (hopefully will be repeated on the new panel).
    2. The fans are louder than expected at idle (~45C) but quieter than expected above that.
    3. I've haven't really stressed it out much but just at a 10 minute AIDA64 stability test the CPU topped out at 80C and the GPU at 70C. That was with an undervolt of 120 mV. I currently set it at 105 mV for stability fears but will probably go back to 120 mV. Undervolting is possible through the BIOS (or with Intel XTU).
    4. The sound does seem to be slightly louder on the right side, although I probably wouldn't have noticed if I didn't read about it here. Running speaker calibration tests though I can't tell the difference between the loudness/quality of the left side speaker vs the right so not sure what to make of this yet.
    5. Very nice build quality and nice Al alloy finish. I like the sleek look.
     
  10. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    You can still get the 2 Year Pixel Warranty. If you want it, just email me.

    Just remind Zoltan to make sure your new panel is also calibrated.

    ENJOY!!
     
  11. shark370ET

    shark370ET Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello OP, I have posed this on another thread, but I am posting here also in case you didnt see it there ( EVOC PA71HS-G Review by mayuk).

    i am an owner of an eurocom - clevo P 370 ET laptop. Had 1 or 2 problem over the years (cant remeber now is it 3 or 4 years) like cooling fan or a key on the keyboard, but nothing serious. I am upgrading now to model reviewed here PA71HP6-G GTX 1060 6GB i7-7820HK from OBSIDIAN in Portugal.
    Since I will be using it daily (busines) in the same way I am using my current P370ET, it will be an overkill in any possible way.
    My concern is about gaming and heating. I will do some online FPS games (CSGO) and maybe others I skipped over the years (witcher), but I must say I am quite happy to play on medium to high settings. No need for ultra high.
    SO back to my question. The model you reviewed has an i7-7700HQ CPU and as I can see there is not much of a problem with overheating during benchmarks, even after continuous runs, back to back. What confuses me is that I read online that for the same workload i7-7820HK produces much more heat. It was some kind of benchmark with input parameters very badly explained, but enough to make me wonder. There is an 7820HK user here also @jsstp24n5 so maybe he can help me also.
    I will try to explain my concerns a bit better.
    SO in this benchmark (I cant find it online any more) the following is stated:
    - two same laptops (no brand is given), one with 7700HQ and one with 7820HK are running the same benchmark (dont know which one)
    - I suppose the pasting is the same
    - CPU frequency - base frequency or auto (7820HK is not OCed), and no undervolting
    - benchmark results ...... 7820HK is better by cca 10% (as expected)
    - CPU temperatures during test ......cca 55 - 60 C for 7700HQ and cca 85 - 90 for 7820HQ

    And this last one is what is confusing, it is a big jump in core temperature for only 10% benchmark improvement.

    Is this the thing in real life also?
    Is 7820HQ burning already on factory settings, nvm OC ?
    Can you or @jsstp24n5 or anyone else please comment on this


    Sorry for spamming the forum a bit but my window of opportunity for buying this laptop is next week and so......I am a bit nervous, (hehe ichy fingers)

    Thanks in advance
     
  12. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    I currently don't have the laptop since it has been in warranty repair since 12/22. The only info I have is what I've already posted.
     
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    bizid Notebook Enthusiast

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    @jsstp24n5
    don't mind to share reason for repairs?
     
  14. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    There was a stuck pixel and I utilized the perfect panel guarantee on my order to get the screen replaced.
     
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  15. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    Received back Friday and the panel is perfect now.

    So I started stress and benchmark testing and was kind of alarmed by the CPU temps reached during the AIDA64 stress test. CPU max was 98C, GPU max was 88C. CPU throttling reached 25% and it started to throttle after less than than 10 minutes. This is with the 120 mV undervolt and ordering the Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut paste job on CPU and thermal pads. Is this expected for this model with the i7-7820HK?

    stabilitytest.png hwinfo64temps.png
     
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  16. RogSmitty

    RogSmitty Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a very similarly configured PA71 coming in this week. I'll let you know how mine compares when I get it.

    Really hoping it doesn't perform similarly though. Especially considering the cost and how the CPU and GPU are approaching the end of their life cycles.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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  17. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    AIDA64 Extreme puts tremendous lost on the CPU that doesn't replicate a normal or even power users' workflow. It grabs all your cores and tortures the crap out of them, even on my MSI GT73VR Titan Pro if I let it run long enough the temps would reach 93-95. STOP, just stop man.

    Run HWiNFO (sensors only) then run a game for a long session, let's say 20-30 minutes then once you go back to your desktop, check the average and max temps recorded. Don't just check the max as temps may have raised for a few seconds during an intense seen with lots of stuff going on but you also wanna see your average temps throughout the gameplay to see how does it cope with what you wanna do with it. Or run any app that you're planning to use for that matter with HWiNFO and look at the temps.
     
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    Hey there, sorry to hear your temps don't seem up to par. I would like to ask if you had the fans running on maximum speed while running the AIDA64 Extreme Stability Stress Test? If not, it is highly recommended to do so while running such intense test on the CPU.

    AIDA64 Extreme is a great way to test the stability of your system but not a good way to tell if your system is overheating or not because your system may run hot with AIDA64 but that doesn't mean it will ever reach those temperatures while doing your day to day tasks. There is no comparable scenario that would stress your CPU that hard on a normal day to day basis.

    I concur with @Phoenix, you should run a game for a long session and keep HWiNFO running in the background to log temps. If you are still reaching 98C please reach out to us so we can help you with this. We are always here to help.
     
  19. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    The fans were set to maximum in Clevo Control Center.

    I will try it out with a few games this week and report the results.
     
  20. thattechgirl_viv

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    Ok, well at least you had the fans on maximum settings. Now, we wait for your results during game. Please share the game settings too, if on Auto, max or Ultra settings, it matters and should be taken into consideration when logging temperatures.

    Thanks!
     
  21. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    Despite @Phoenix warning ;), I decided run the AIDA64 stability test again (with HWiNFO64 sensors only in the background). This time results were much better. The difference is I had the back of the laptop raised up several inches and also had the fans on maximum for the duration of the entire test (last time I started on auto, then switched to maximum after about 10 minutes). The temps stabilized at about 86C for the CPU and 75C for the GPU after about 20 minutes. No throttling. So then I decided to lower the back of the laptop and immediately noticed the GPU temp rising to above 80C, and as a result the CPU temp rose above 90C, at which point I stopped the test.

    In terms of games, I'm still d/l some to test with. But those I will probably test with the back of the laptop on a flat surface.
     

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    Just play some fun games and enjoy the toasty warmth
     
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  23. Tuan Hoang

    Tuan Hoang Notebook Consultant

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    Coming from the PowerSpec 1710, I'd recommend you raising the bottom up for better airflow, since the feet is too low to provide enough surface area for the fans.
    Did you stress test both the CPU and GPU together? I did on mine and noticed the higher temps when GPU is taken into account, compared to stressing just the CPU alone. Check my post here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/powerspec-1710-1510.809785/page-49#post-10675715
    P/s: oh btw, mine has a 7700HQ. Did you overclock your 7820HK?
     
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  24. jsstp24n5

    jsstp24n5 Notebook Guru

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    I was not overclocking the CPU. And yes, the test was stressing everything except the SSDs.