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    about win 7

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by alexaqd13, Aug 8, 2013.

  1. alexaqd13

    alexaqd13 Newbie

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    hey guys

    I'm just wondering if anyone swip the win8 to win7 yet?

    And how about all the drivers? are they compatible with win7?

    thx
    :D

    uh, I'm talking about the 14 inch
     
  2. htndc4

    htndc4 Newbie

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    Everything seems to be working fine so far, just can't adjust screen brightness with the keys. Have to do it manually.
     
  3. JoJotaro

    JoJotaro Notebook Guru

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    Why would you do that!? Just instal something like Start8 if you don't like the Start Screen etc and you'll have an improved version of Windows 7! Windows 8 is faster, lighter and likely even more reliable than 7 too.
     
  4. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    it is more reliable
     
  5. proteus77

    proteus77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Win 8 is better across the board. TheUI change is a non issue,,lots of ways to bring the start button back.
     
  6. mario64

    mario64 Notebook Evangelist

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    If we could get back on topic, does anyone know how to get the brightness keys to work on Win 7?
     
  7. JoJotaro

    JoJotaro Notebook Guru

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    Instead of trying to make them work on Windows 7, something that might even be impossible, just go back to Windows 8, install a start button and have everything work as it's suppose to!
     
  8. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    what you are asking are drivers, if they aren't available on razer site, there isn't one to be had, that brightness functionality depends on that
     
  9. lukaskt

    lukaskt Notebook Consultant

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    I find it incredibly stupid that people refuse to give windows 8 a chance and opt to downgrade. This isn't Vista, it's a much refined OS that runs incredibly faster than Windows 7. Only in an enterprise situation can I see someone arguing to revert back to Win7 so that mass organizations can run with what is familiar. But for personal use, please don't be so stubborn to not give it a chance (and install Start8 as others have said).
     
  10. 3klips3

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    Or just wait for the release of 8.1 which is right around the corner. Literally only weeks away.
     
  11. mario64

    mario64 Notebook Evangelist

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    Numbers don't lie. The vast majority of users do not like Windows 8, and with good reason. 8.1 will not do much to improve that especially when users realize Microsoft isn't giving them the Start menu back but merely a Start button which loads Metro.

    The fact that it takes a 3rd party app just to make the OS usable by most folks speaks volumes as to how off-target Microsoft was. We saw the same mindset with Xbox One. They seem to think they can just force users to take whatever crap changes they make simply because they are -Microsoft-

    Try playing an older Windows game with Win8. Oh wait, they removed direct draw so you can't. Try getting those beautiful clear window borders with the blur effect. Oh wait they removed that so you can't (the avail hacks are just that and don't give the full effect). Try scanning a single file or folder with the built-in antivirus. Oh wait, again you can't without a hack.

    It's almost as if Microsoft has returned to its roots but in a bad way. With Windows 3.1 you had a gui running on top of DOS. With Win8 you have an unwanted, unneeded, tablet gui running on top of the OS.

    Windows 8 is usable but Win8 + Start8 <> Windows 7. Not by a long shot. Like the OP, I too would LOVE to find the secret to getting the function keys to work with Win7. Soon as that happens my Blade 14 will be using it immediately and saying good riddance to Tablet 8, err Windows 8
     
  12. aaronjb

    aaronjb Notebook Consultant

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    I wonder if the same people making hyperbolic claims about their issues with Microsoft and Windows 8 are the same people claiming that complaints about the Razer Blade display were unfounded.
     
  13. JoJotaro

    JoJotaro Notebook Guru

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    There is no secret to getting the function keys to work with Win7. Razer need to write the drivers for it. Not everyone plays ancient games, I haven't had such an issue with my anti-virus and I don't really care about Aero being gone. I find the new look much cleaner and I like that about Win8 and the Blade. I also find the Start Screen to be a lot easier to find my installed programs with and it returns searches faster! If you want everything to work as it is suppose to you'll have to stick with Windows 8. Windows 7 has issues and some of those issues have been fixed in Windows 8. You can't stick with older versions of an OS forever, that's how all OSs work. At some point you will be forced to upgrade because nobody will support that old OS anymore and it will be laughed at, much like Windows XP is today.
     
  14. damadama

    damadama Notebook Enthusiast

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    everyone watch out, we got a VB(A) developer in the house
     
  15. mario64

    mario64 Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow. You Windows 8 fanboys are hilarious. I'm not a developer of any kind. Just one of MANY other people who dislike Microsoft's latest "OS"
     
  16. SpartanJet

    SpartanJet Notebook Consultant

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    Mario you kind of come off as a Windows 7 zealot. Did you resist Vista this hard?

    All I see is people spreading FUD about Windows 8. Its pretty damn nice, and its better than windows 7 once I added Start8 which is a 5 dollar app for a complete OS I paid 39.99 for. (Ive paid just under $100 in the past for OS's including my OEM Windows 7 pro). Of all the reasons you listed most of them come off rather petty like glass was ok but really is that a huge reason to install windows 7? I can't really say I know much about older games on windows 8, I play a few older games and they seem to work fine. Windows 8 has so many advantages over Windows 7 its almost sad seeing people listen to others badmouth an OS they probably never tried just like what happened with Vista.
     
  17. Baconstrip

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    Wow.. you people are crazy.. almost everyone in this thread jumped down this dudes throat because he wants to install an operating system of his choice on his $2000 laptop. He didn't even bash windows 8!

    When/if I buy this laptop.. im going to want to put windows 7 on it too. The things I play and use are significantly more compatible with 7. When you go to a tech forum and respond to question about how to modify a system.. you aren't supposed to bash the guy asking a completely legit question because you have some dislike for his desire to use his s*** the way he wants. Geez. Its still freaking MS.. not apple vs android.
     
  18. JoJotaro

    JoJotaro Notebook Guru

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    I've just been trying to point out that what he wants to do with Windows 7 isn't possible. All the hardware on the Blade has most likely been optimized to run better with Windows 8. If you want to install Windows 7 and having things work slightly worse or not work at all then that's your choice, but don't expect there to be a way to fix those issues.
     
  19. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    its simple there are no drivers, so some things will work and some won't, this has been repeated several times already, not only on this thread but on others.
     
  20. sjefferson

    sjefferson Notebook Consultant

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    i've been thinking about getting 14-inch gaming-capable laptop and there are few. lenovo y410p and this. but i'm extremely hesitant because of the lack of Win7 availability. I'm actually thinking about getting T430 with mediocre NVS graphics. that's how desperate I am. i used to spend serious $$$ on gaming rigs and used to upgrade all the time. i stopped doing that since Windows 8. Microsoft is saving me some serious $$$.

    I too would like to know the answer to install win7 on this laptop. I don't mind spending extra $150 for Win 7 on top of this $2k gaming laptop. but i do want it to work flawlessly.

    i have a sliver of hope for windows 8.1 but from what i've read, not good.

    just another side note. i lurk at lenovo outlet often and with everything else being equal, the PCs that come with win 7 commands much higher price.

    that should tell you something about the popularity of the windows 8.
     
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    May I ask which drivers you installed to get at least the basic functionality up and running?
     
  22. htndc4

    htndc4 Newbie

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    I downloaded all the drivers for the razer website. All the Win 8 ones seem to work fine when installing. Been using the laptop around a month now, and it's still running nice.
     
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    Glad to hear you are enjoying your laptop and thanks for the pointers. Didn't realize the Win8 drivers would be compatible with 7. Just received my 14" Blade today and it is sweet so far! I will give those drivers a shot.
     
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    Windows 8 is better in almost every respect. I still fail to see why anyone, especially a gamer would go back to Win 7, with its less efficient, slower kernel and inferior drivers. That being said, most Win 8 drivers will install under 7, so you should be ok.
    Don't expect new systems to come with Win 7 or even support it. Its now a 4 year old OS, and its dead Jim. No point in investing any further.
    Then again, you had the ridiculous crowd who stuck with the slow, bloated, bug ridden WinXP for a decade, and fantasized it was superior in some way..go figure!
     
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    Citations and sources, please.

    (Do you even know what that means, by the way?)
     
  26. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    is there an actual need for that? people don't like the win 8 UI, doesn't mean that all the improvements that were done aren't there, check ars in depth review of it and their separate articles

    the kernel was indeed changed from 7 to 8, fixes and patches, not a re write
     
  27. proteus77

    proteus77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sources? Personal experience from my job, running extensive Windows Server 2012 benchmarks on a variety of server hardware (same code base as Win 8). A simple google query will reveal gamer related benchmarks comparing the two, so i wont bother. Win 8 kernel was a MAJOR change from win 7, not just a few patches. Some items you won't find talked about much...
    Dramatic reduction in kernel jitter, leading to more consistent I/o and compute performance.
    Major rewrite on SSD I/o handlers
    Significant update to WDDM driver model
    Rewrite of kernel threading model (this alone increased scalability from 64 to 320 logical procs)
    Complete rewrite of kernel power mgmt
    UEFI secure boot (enabled on razer btw)
    Just a few small examples to get you started.