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    Will a Razer Blade 15 RTX be well suited for an amateur 3d artist?

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by DrMindRiot, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. DrMindRiot

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    Hey guys,
    As the title suggests, I am wondering if the Razer Blade RTX edition will be well suited for some entry level to amateur 3d work? I work as an Art Director and my main source of income is Adobe Suite, however, I also plan to use the machine for some 3d modelling and rendering. Currently, I am using a CPU based Render engine, however, I plan to switch to Octane which is GPU based. It looks like the new RTX cards will be able to handle Octane well, but, I am curious if the stress of rendering will suffocate the machine with heat for extended periods of time.

    Also, sadly, the Mercury edition does not appear to offer a 4K screen or a 2080 card. Any ideas if this model will be updated with those features? Finally, for anyone who is used to high pixel density, how is the pixel density on the 144hz displays? I am used to crisp edges and high detail, so I assume I will need to go with the 4k panel to enjoy "retina" quality, is this correct?

    Finally, should I purchase this machine from the Microsoft Store? Razer website? A custom pc shop? I am wondering where I can get the best service & warranty from.

    Thank you in advance.
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If your laptop is going to be a source of income for you, I would stay far away from Razer because of their subpar reliability and reputation for poor customer service. You should instead invest in a business-class system from a major OEM, such as Dell, HP, or Lenovo, in that order. Those machines will offer NVIDIA Quadro GPUs, which will be well-suited to modeling and other professional work. Plus, they are backed by dedicated support personnel that can dispatch on-site technicians within a day or two. If an issue comes up with your Razer machine, you could potentially be without it for weeks or even months.
     
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    Thanks so much for your response. That is actually pretty disappointing to read.

    I actually already tried Dell and Lenovo machines. The Dell machine had display issues (Half the screen was tinted red due to backlight bleeding). The screen was replaced 4 times and the display issues continued to persist, I even received a display with dead pixels at one point. The machine would also flicker from time to time. I gave up on Dell after that. I then tried the Lenovo P1. I loved the build quality and the specs, I got the Xeon + Quadro P2000 option. The machine was loud and somewhat annoying, the fans would spin 80% of the time (even in idle), and performance in 3D was surprisingly poor. I use Cinema4D and the viewport lagged and could not process any movement. I tried reinstalling the drivers, etc. and could not get it to work properly. I sent that machine back as well, and here I am looking for something else.

    I have not tried HP yet as I have heard that their quality control can be questionable, so I am not sure. What do you think about MSI Workstations?
     
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    The MSI WT75 is an absolute beast. If you don't care much about portability, I would definitely give it a look. Just make sure you order from an integrator like HIDevolution, GenTechPC, or XoticPC as opposed to a retailer like Amazon or Newegg. The former companies offer custom options and will provide better service if the machine needs it. You won't get on-site support like with the big companies, but if you had bad experiences with them, then MSI is definitely a good alternative.
     
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    Yeah, I have seen the MSI WT75 and it would serve me very well, however, portability is a factor as I will be traveling quite a bit in the upcoming year. Luckily MSI has a lot of other options that are thinner. Thank you for the suggestions in regards on where to order from. I will definitely do that. Thanks again for your help and time.
     
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    2070 512gb has mercury option in US. It’s good enough considering it would be 20% more powerful than last gen more powerful card plus better energy efficiency and new tensor core. Yes FHD won’t be as crispy as Retina display, it’s around 140PPI. I had a lot Retina display on iPad, iPhone, and my old Blade 14 was also 1800p screen etc for 15,6 in 1 m distance it’s good enough and I don’t notice pixels at all. I’m more enjoying the 144Hz screen smoothness not only on gaming but on desktop usage similar with iPad Pro smoothness. I tempted actually to Oled Model that they show on CES, but I’m not sure if it’s can leave 144Hz screen smoothness.
    It’s though only my opinion which don’t do 3D modeling nor need Retina screen crispness.
    As @saturnotaku mentioned there will be a risk with CS (never experienced that though), so buying from physical store or Amazon with great return policy and extra hardware protection may take an advantage over directly from Razer but Mercury usually direct from Razer store. We’re in EU have 2 years guarantee and I’ve only great CS experience, beside on country where I live there’s repair center that took last time only within a week to let them repair my old Blade, so for me I wouldn’t be hesitant buying directly from them.
    If you’re in US there’s new Apple, eh Razer care essentials that would extend total 3 years Blade protection.
     
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    This is sound advice. For professional equipment, I use Lenovo Thinkpads


    If you think the p1 is loud, the razer is even louder when being put to work. Good chance it will throttle down the CPU because it gets too hot. That’s the penalty of using high performance components in a tiny chassis.
     
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    Thanks for your response. I agree that the Razer will not be a good choice. I think I will try a MSI Workstation computer. Quick question: Is it safe to assume a 17" machine will have better thermals than a 15.6" machine?
     
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    In pretty much every case, yes, assuming they have the same specs between the two. Case and point: Razer Blade 2017 and Razer Blade Pro 2017 FHD share the same CPU and GPU, but the heatsink and fans are slightly larger on the Razer Blade Pro. It’s no surprise it does a better job keeping the same parts cooler
     
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    Thanks so much for all your help. I am looking at the following machine which will serve me quite well. A 120Hz 4k panel, definitely something to get excited about. Fingers crossed it is well built.

    http://www.hidevolution.com/msi-we73-8sk-486.html
     
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    Thanks, I sent him an email. Cheers!