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    Razer Blade Pro w/ GTX 1080

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by derpsauce, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. derpsauce

    derpsauce Notebook Consultant

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    Looks like a Spanish website jumped the gun before the announcement. It got taken down though.

    Credit to this Reddit post.

    - i7-6700HQ, but at 3.5Ghz?!
    - GTX 1080
    - Thunderbolt 3
    - RGB Keyboard
    - 4k IGZO display
    - G-Sync
    - 3.45Kg

    Looks like they removed the old Switchblade UI. That 4199 Euro price though...

    [​IMG]
     
  2. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Notebook Geek

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    It looks like Razer uses a 1.25/1.3 multiplier on Euro/dollar conversion, so the Pro would be $3,300 in the US.

    At that price, that makes it an instant buy for me.
     
  3. derpsauce

    derpsauce Notebook Consultant

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    Wat. How did that maths work out :confused: Last time I checked, Euro > Dollar. Monetary value should be 1:1 (4000 euro : 4000 dollars), give or take 100 euro or so since VAT.

    Not for me, at least where I'm at. Might as well build a GTX 1080 desktop, buy a ultrabook or something similar for on the go/office use and still have money left over instead of blowing 4.2k euro. Unless I'm a college student that lives in dorms with limited space, then maybe that could be justified.

    EDIT: Holy **** Razer, popped onto their website, how the **** does their conversion rates work. I could get a ticket to New York, stay at a decent hotel, pick up my machine, fly back and still save money.
     
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  4. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Notebook Geek

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    It's called European warranties. You guys get ridiculous protection on your purchases, but for that protection/additional warranties you pay a premium. Also, you get multiple customized keyboards, all these things add cost.

    Basic economics...
     
  5. derpsauce

    derpsauce Notebook Consultant

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    No need to be snarky. Fair point with the warranty, but other companies don't do that (see below for MSI example) When you say customised keyboards, you mean keyboard layouts? No... Even on their European site(s) "Available in US layout only". At best, they might even have a Nordic layout. Even then, there is no price difference between the US layout and the Nordic layout. Basic economics. Right.

    EU:
    Granted this conversion is always lower since rates on internet isn't exactly the ones you get at banks, 2185 USD give or take. Mostly take. This is with the whole 2 year EU warranty/coverage, 14 day returns (or 30 days since Amazon) and covered through EU Distance Sales Directive.

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    US:
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    1699 USD + 23% VAT = 2089 USD
    Let's say you factor in shipping costs to justify difference in overseas pricing, add $100
    Total: 2189 USD
     
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  6. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Notebook Geek

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    Sorry man, no snark intended.

    But your example proves my point - the MSI is cheaper in dollars than Euros, by about a 1.2/1.25 premium. Good catch on IVA/VAT being included, here in the US taxes aren't included in prices.

    In other words, take the price in dollars for a computer, multiply it by 1.2 or 1.25, and you have the price in Euros.

    MSI: $1700 (US) x 1.2 = 2040 (Euro)
    Razer $3300 (US) x 1.25 = 4125 (Euro)

    In other words, Razer and MSI have nearly identical practices.
     
  7. darkloki

    darkloki Notebook Deity

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    I'm okay with everything in this product except the glare that this monitor has. After watching the release video and seeing ming with the system opened up and perhaps with the Stage Lighting, that screen was literally like a mirror with his face on it. I realize that the lights on stage had to be of a very high luminosity but I simply do not care....

    I don't want anything close to a mirror as my monitor on my laptop, especially if I'm about to prop down a chunk of my holiday bonus check on it.

    Surely I can't be the only on in this camp, but if I am, I'm still entitled to my opinion :)
     
  8. derpsauce

    derpsauce Notebook Consultant

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    You missed a very important part in your maths - currency conversion. Your values are still USD. Convert them back and it's back to my point. Let me reiterate, please note the dollar signs
    $3300 + 23% VAT ($759) = $4059
    You can also be super generous and use the highest rate of tax at 25%, a full quarter of the price.
    4059 USD to EUR = 3714 EUR
    I'm not sure what shipping people use, but that must be amazing shipping if that cost over 500 euro.

    The new prices of the newest Blades (non pro) reflect this, which is what it should be compared to the ridiculous Eur vs US prices listed before.

    Tbh if you're paying upwards of 4k, the processor is another point to pick on, though I did point this out in the other thread. Pity really.
     
  9. Frag

    Frag Notebook Consultant

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    The New Blade Pro starts at $3699 and goes up from there.
     
  10. darkloki

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    And that is why I won't be buying one. I think they really priced this one wrong, I mean they were doing great with the Stealth the 'New' razer blade, but they really missed it here. I'm starting to think that Ming Jobs was actually telling the truth when he said he spent millions of dollars to produce that keyboard and cooling system... I don't know what else to attribute the high cost to originally people said the aorus laptops were expensive at 2700, this thing is an additional grand, LOL!!!!!
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Uh... Did no one really? Pretty interesting tbh.

     
  12. gametime10

    gametime10 Notebook Geek

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    $3700. I wonder if a better option would be to get a 2016 Razer Blade w/ 970M (on discount now that the 1060 is out), Razer Core, and a GTX 1080. You'd end up saving over $1000.
     
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    I hate to be "that guy", but please post about the Blade Pro in the official stickied topic. Thanks!
     
  14. darkloki

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    it's not worth it, it's among the first things I checked at least from Razer. Because the 1060 is an improvement of nearly 40% (That's significant). And the price of the 970m 6gb (You need the thunderbolt** for the core) is priced too high currently at their outlet store at http://www.razerzone.com/store/outlet#systems $1700 dollars a whopping $100 savings.

    Translation (That 100$ savings isn't worth the downgrade to a 970) oh but they do give you a mouse so that's a $160 savings? I'll take the 1060 with Matte Sceen* and be as happy as can be.;..
     
  15. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    I really dont think this machine will have good thermals. At least not without throttling. Also the PSU seems to be TOO small for the system. But the amount of money they ask is ridiculous, a laptop like this lasts only 2 or 3 years and the CPU is a bit underpowered for the 1080GTX as well.

    I think it is a better option to just buy a 1070 equipped laptop for around 2000usb, use it 2 years and buy a new one and much faster after that. Look at how it went with the 980M. Even a midrange 1060 dwarves the previous high end.
     
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    Alienware still has a 1080 that they are releasing in that same time period which will be interesting to watch. Personally it's kinda funny for me because my company will stipend me 2 grand every 2 years for a new system and anything additional I pay out of pocket. So basically I get a 2 thousand dollar discount and I still don't think I wanna get a Razer Blade Pro at $1,800, lol...
     
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    The alienware is thicker ofcourse. But on the other hand also offers more storage, removable memory and various gsync options.

    But Razer their marketing team is on a roll again. They better offer some sort of premium support with prices like this.
     
  18. darkloki

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    With it being thicker though I'm assuming maybe better cooling solution? And at 17 inches I'm not really sure if I'm expecting thin being all that much of a factor especially with a poop battery life
     
  19. mindinversion

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    The bottom line here is that this is specifically targeted at two types of peope: Creative types that have to move from place to place for significant amounts of time to do work, and business traveler/gamer types who ALSO have to be out of town for long periods of time.

    Personally, by the time you get to a 17" 4k screen (probably hard to source and limited availability, possibly even custom built for Razer) and the GTX 1080 desktop chip price is probably close to on the money all things considered. For MOST People, it's probably way overkill. For people like me, who occasionally get stuck for 2-4 weeks straight on the road in a hotel room. . . this is the ultimate machine. I'm not sure how the best way to transport my rift on a plane would be [to say nothing of my X52 pro for Elite: Dangerous] But for me this machine is the holy grail of laptops. With it I could completely disassemble my desktop, throw my desktop 1080 in the core and use it as a hub, and then just pack up the laptop and live on internal when I need to live on the road for awhile. It could be argued that you can do that with the 14" blade, but I've tried and tried and I can't stand to use the 14", ended up giving it to my older son. Stealth is comfortable as heck, the OLD blade pro was comfortable as heck [though couldn't stand the horrible matte 1080 non glossy screen] So my father inherited that one. Sure, I could probably set up with the stealth and the core, but trying to explain the insanely heavy and "weird looking" core to Airport security?

    Let's face it: This is Razer we're talking about here. You get what you pay for. Whether this machine is worth the price is a very subjective question based on age, income, and personal needs. If you're home every day or just gaming on the go in your own town @ the local starbucks, obviously it's an overpowered overpriced pile of gosa. For those of us spending hours in hotel rooms analyzing data logs while playing netflix in the background, transcoding files, and running a few VMs in the background. . . . . and then taking the night off with a little ED [My latest addiction, sorry]. . . . . Worth every cent.

    And I quit worrying about heat. If it's gonna melt, it'll do it in the first 30 days :p Otherwise, there are ways to add registry edits to limit turbo clocks.
     
  20. darkloki

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    What is ED? I always understood that as Erectile Disfunction
     
  21. mindinversion

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    Though it's so thoroughly addictive in VR, it could lead to the OTHER ED providing you do not have an understanding Significant other.

    Fortunately for me, I married a gamer ;)