Razer blade pro 17 Rtx 3080 100 watt reviewed by a user.
Timespy Overall 10,5K graphics 10,7K CPU 9,9K
Firestrike Overall 22,3K graphics 27,5K CPU 21,4K.
He has on other videos gaming performance on 4K 120Hz setting.
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He said I think he had as well the previous Blade model so he is hypnotized by the look and forget about the sound, yes Razer looks damn sexy so like girls you’ll forget something bad when you enjoy them i can understand that
However I think he pull out all power its power, not mentioned cpu temperature maybe quite on high areas, if you undervolte and limit it like to not all max boost if you could it’ll be better I think mine even smaller form factor runs similar titles isn’t as loud as that...or maybe I was also hypnotized -
My problem also is that benchmark GPU/CPU temps are not realistic as they are not sustained loads. Gaming for an hour on something ridiculously hard on the system like FFXV would be a better indication of how ampere + 10th gen intel perform in the razer blade. I have a hard time believing "there is definitely more thermal headroom for the GPU" yeah right, the same thing was said about the 2080SMQ and yet it runs incredibly hot (reviewers said low 70s, my experience has been high 70s - low 80s), as expected in such a compact form factor.
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When will Razer update the displays of Razer Blade 15 and 17 to 16:10, like Razer Book 13?
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Though it’s 25 watt
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Hey folks,
Contrary to some of your comments I did several hours of testing before commenting on the thermal headroom (I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear!). I've been in discussions with Razer about tgp and they have said they are looking into it.
Any questions let me know!
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I would be careful with the zephyrus duo because having read notebookcheck's review, it would seem that of the games I can test in comparison, a number of them achieve higher framerates on my device. Whilst the tdp is lower, the gpu is well cooled and overclocked (+150, +400) and benefits from a mux switch. The performance difference between the devices isn't as big as you'd think and may surprise you in some cases. I might make a comparison if I get time.seanwee likes this. -
Btw, on razer you can overclock the ram as well which will significantly boost framerates on games like cyberpunk 2077. Heck, I'm getting higher framerates than most laptops with a 150w 3080 simply because they are ram speed bottlenecked.Warney's World likes this. -
So are are you saying that the Asus is poorly optimised? Or could there be an issue with AMD cpus having less PCIE lanes?
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Laptops from last gen could handle 115w gpus and charging at the same time with 230w adapters btw. 115+15w with slower or no charging would work. -
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https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer...w-The-GeForce-RTX-30-Difference.519563.0.html
Now heavier than ever, last gen's blade pro 17 already tipped the scales at 2.7kg, this gen clocks in at almost 3kgs making it as heavy or heavier than thick medium sized gaming laptops like the GE76 (2.9kg vs 2.96kg) while running much hotter due to its thin a̶n̶d̶ ̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ yet heavy design. What the heck razer -
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It gets even more egregious when you consider the fact that the GE76 has a 150w+ 3080M and runs far faster (+30-40%) and cooler than the blade Pro 17 at just 55C
Better build quality is good but not if it sacrifices the essence of the laptop which is to be a thin and light gaming machine. And god forbid you encroach into a higher tier of laptops which is exactly what the blade Pro 17 has done. -
Fast forward 10 years into the future, and machines like the M18x no longer exist. Seeing as raw performance is no longer a thing in the laptop space, I now shoot for the next best thing: build quality. The Razer Blade build quality is second to none in the PC world. -
Simply put, the Blade Pro is way too heavy. The engineering team blew their weight budget this time around.
What you want are laptops like the 2019 blade 15. Same weight class as other thin and lights, similar cooling, same or better performance than competing laptops like the gs65 but with better build quality at the cost of paying Razer's price premium.
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To be honest look at thin and laptops nowadays it all move to blade kind look form factor, asus g/m 15, MSI gs66, HP Omen etc, because a lot poeple also need stealth mature non gamerish look. Personally I’d rather buy mini desktop than buy GE76, since for me anything bigger than 15 inch and 2,5Kg plus are a desktop. -
There's nothing wrong with the blade form factor, as long as it cools well and performance is there then I'm all for it.
Razer just really needs to get their flagship rb17 pro together. As it stands it's too heavy and too slow for its weight, not to mention commands a price premium.Terreos likes this. -
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GPU scores seem low actually. From what I've been able to read and see from benchmarks unless you get the 150w 3080 you're better off skipping it as the 3070 with the same wattage is basically neck and neck with 3080. Still I think this is modest bump over last gen 2080s. Not bad overall I say.
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I switched from the Blade 15 Advanced to the Blade Pro 17 mostly due to the supposedly better cooling (and the upgrade from 2070 MQ to 2080 MQ, as they had them in-stock in the local Microsoft store). And I still love Razer laptops, but I'm starting to question their reliability (just had to replace the battery in my 12 month old Blade Pro 17), and despite the extra cooling of the Pro 17 vs the Blade 15, the 17 still runs hot. And I haven't found Razer's post-sales support to be that great.
Honestly the only high-end gaming laptops I would consider would be Alienware or Razer. MSI, Asus and Gigabyte all have some decent units, but I'm even more concerned about post-sales support from any of them than Razer or Dell. I still really want a 2021 Blade 15 Advanced with the QHD display and a 3080, but I'm concerned about thermals, and I'm concerned about fitting 2TB SSDs into the two M.2 slots (since they are stacked). I'm actually seriously contemplating an Alienware m15 R4 and going with the 4K OLED panel. It's more 'gamery' than any Blade (15 or 17), or even most of the MSI / Asus / Gigabyte models, but I find the esthetic is actually quite attractive.
The Blade 15 Adv is slightly cheaper, and I prefer the 240 Hz / QHD display, but I like Dell's support options much better (on-site repairs vs return-to-factory for Razer).
And you're right, the Blade Pro 17 is a bit too heavy to drag around on a regular basis.
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While the m15 R4 is faster than the blade 15 advanced and will cooler than any razer laptop, the 60hz screen may be a big downside though. And as far as i know only razer and asus offer 4k 120hz screens with their laptops.Terreos likes this. -
I've generally found the build quality on MSI / Asus / Acer / Gigabyte to be a step down from that of Razer / Alienware (including Dell) & Lenovo. -
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, this users play Cyberpunk on 4K Max out ray tracing both similar FPS on similar city areas 30 to 40ish, around same with my 3070 egpu FYI.
Blade pro 3080 100 Watt
https://youtu.be/UE8yDhRMi6M
GE76 3080 150 Watt.
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And yes, as I have ranted so many times before, the 3000 series mobile is a scam. The 3080M just has the full 3070 die so it will match the 3070 at best.
About the design, I was talking to @GR8-Ride, not you. I don't fancy the design as well (too much plastic) but he likes it so who am I to judge.
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There’s new category though, ultrabook gaming on under 1,5 like Blade stealth 13 ad followed by Asus on flow 13 and Acer Triton 300se, Asus did some new things though like amd CPUs and 2 in 1 ultrabook Gaming. -
And finally, the desktop replacement units, or those "laptops" that are 3kg and beyond, and often well over 25mm / 1 inch in thickness, and generally have massive power bricks to go with them. You don't really travel with these so much as lug them around, and battery life is often emergency use only, and not a practical element of their design. So technically still a laptop, but not a practical one. AW Area-51m, some of the Acer Predator series, MSI GT76, etc.
To a certain extent it's splitting hairs, but I would say there are viable target markets for each of the three size categories: road-warriors and casual gamers for the ultrabook crowd (League of Legends and similar gaming category, even some CS:GO / Fortnite ). And then the "thin and light" crowd or mid-sized crowd, which is the Blade 15 / AW m15 / MSI GE76 / MSI Stealth 15m etc) for the folks who still may travel, but want something more capable than an ultrabook, and want to play AAA titles with good framerates and resolution / settings. I'd say this market is pretty strong as well, as there are plenty of folks around like me who want good performance from a subtle (relatively) and fairly portable machine.
If anything, the 3 kg and up DTR is probably dying off, which is likely why AW hasn't updated the Area-51m lately, nor have Acer or MSI come out with new DTR models like the Predator 21x or GT76 Titan. Those units are really not much more portable than a SFF desktop, still have virtually no battery life (again, not THAT different from an SFF PC), and are generally horrendously over-priced when compared to a well built SFF PC. If LAN parties were still a thing, I'm sure I could build a cost-effective SFF PC with an RTX 30 series (if you can find one), AMD CPU and potentially even H2O cooling that would run circles around any DTR laptop for a fraction of the cost. If I actually had any use for one, I'd be tempted to build one for myself....seanwee likes this. -
Then you have light but not thin laptops like the Acer nitro 5, Asus Tuf and MSI GL series at around 2kg-2.3kg but these are light because they have worse build quality and are made of plastic
Medium sized laptops start at 2.5kg like the Strix 15, GE66, AW M15. 17 inch medium sized ones start at 2.7kg like the Strix 17, AW M17and GE76.
The large desktop replacement ones are the Asus GX703, Alienware A51m and GT76 which clock in at 4kg+
If your leaving your graphics horsepower at home you're better off getting a desktop and an actual ultrabook.
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Back to blade Pro theme, according notebookcheck which’s user favorite place to check I believe, honestly I don’t really like them
They mentioned performance actually similar or better (a lot) on some games despite having lower gpu wattage than Asus ROG Duo 3080, yes i saw some guys flashed with higher tdp bios but it’s other story. Take a look at the comment QA.
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I really hope any razer blade 3080 user can try to flash vbios with higher wattage limits and run some tests again, since gpu temp seems well controlled with 100w limit. -
And i don't think the blade can be flashed since it will be labelled as a Max-q card internally so Max-p vbioses won't work. -
And about the bios, if it matches you can cross flash it. I didn’t do that on my 1070maxq blade 15 but msi user did that on gs65 I believe he even flashed desktop 1070.seanwee likes this. -
Oh what there's a MUX option now?!
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Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 RTX 3000
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