Razer Blade Pro 17" GTX 1080 GPU/7820K CPU 2017 Owner's Lounge

New Thread for owner's of the 2017 RBP and those that wish to discuss Razer's latest system. In order to ensure our posts are beneficial to all readers please limit discussions to the Razer Blade Pro current and previous generation. If you have a positive or negative comment please ensure you provide as much detail as possible, this will make it easier for current owners to assist.

17.3” THX Certified 4K UHD G-SYNC, 16:9 ratio, 3840 x 2160, with capacitive multi-touch
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 (8GB GDDR5X VRAM)
Overclocked 7th Gen Intel Core i7-7820HK Quad-Core Processor with Hyper-Threading 2.9GHz / 3.9GHz / 4.3GHz (Base/Turbo/Overclock)
Mobile Intel® HM175 Chipset
32GB dual-channel memory (DDR4, 2667MHz)
Windows® 10 (64-bit)
Killer DoubleShot™ Pro:
Killer™ Wireless-AC 1535 (IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac + Bluetooth® 4.1)
Killer™ E2500 (Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000)
Anti-ghosting individually backlit ultra-low-profile mechanical keyboard
Multi-point touchscreen interface
Built-in webcam (2.0MP)
Multimedia keys with scroll wheel
Multi-touch touchpad
SDXC card reader
Thunderbolt™ 3 (USB-C™)
USB 3.0 port x3 (SuperSpeed)
HDMI 2.0 audio and video output
Built-in stereo speakers
Built-in array microphone
THX Certified 3.5mm combo audio port
Dolby® Digital Plus Home Theater Edition
7.1 Codec support
Keyboard and trackpad lighting powered by Razer Chroma™
Razer™ Synapse enabled with programmable keyboard, trackpad, backlighting, fan control, and overlocking
Kensington® Security Slot
Trusted Platform Module (TPM 2.0) security chip embedded
Compact 250W power adapter
Built-in 99Wh rechargeable lithium-ion polymer battery
0.88” / 22.5mm (Height) x 16.7” / 424mm (Width) x 11” / 281mm (Depth)
7.89 lbs / 3.58kg

 

My guess is 5/14 for release date, anyone else care to estimate?

 

Preordered one for work through HID this week.


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Really hoping that it comes before May...

 

HIDevo has a good reputatation let us know when you get it in. My top two recommendations are to undervolt the CPU and split the raid. If you call Razer support after getting the blade they will send you a win10 USB drive for free to re-image with.

 

Noticed the premium for HIDevolution RBP V2 over razer' website.

What extra features/service are you getting?

 

I'm having HID split the raid. The rest is going to be left alone. Curious to see if kaby lake is more thermally efficient than skylake.


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good luck with telling people not to chime in about the "1080 being a 1070." Pretty much gave up on the Blade Pro Owners lounge because of those people.

 

For the 2017/2016 RBP you must own the Notepal U3+ aluminum laptop stand which is extremely effective at allowing fresh air intake from the bottom of the laptop and dispersing heat. I bought a few different plastic stands that fit well enough but did not actually reduce temps sustainably.

Without a stand the RBP does fine but for long sessions of gaming or cpu intensive tasks having a laptop stand is a good idea.

With our without the fans attached it will keep it much cooler and lessen fan noise overall for $35.

http://a.co/6KSP27v

 

If I play games like Street Fighter V for a long time, do I still need a stand?


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On this model all we have seen is engineer sample units, I would wait till we see some actual results for temps on final production models before buying any additional items, they hopefully have made changes for the good?

 

You don´t need a stand, the stand like the U3 is just to lift up the laptop for better airflow on the bottom. The fans that come with the U3 don´t really help that much, might help by cooling the chassis a bit quicker, but the stand is nice for better airflow.

 

True. I am hoping the upgraded CPU will give the notebook the performance boost it deserves. The Beautiful anandtech review seems to count on that as well... http://www.anandtech.com/show/10922/the-2016-razer-blade-pro-review/4

So let´s see. Unfortunately there is no company that offers HID like customisation in germany. notebook.de has some few options, but those are very expensive.

Best regards

phila

 

No, after an hour just sitting on a desk running Street Fighter V temps are 64c for both cpu/gpu.

 

I've never used the fans but the stand will help when pushing the laptop hard for a long time.

 

Nice. Say what's your temps when you play Witcher 3 or high demanding games?


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So an overclocked 7820HK and a 1080 on a 250W PSU? interesting.

 

The most reviews suggest, that the card does not get to warm (about 75°C). Some say due to throtteling issues which does not seem to be the case:

"Our performance logs recorded using the utility GPU-Z indicated no throttling of any kind on the GTX 1080, but at the same time, we observed it didn’t venture far into its boost clock. The core instead stayed close to its 1,557MHz base clock." -> http://www.computershopper.com/laptops/reviews/razer-blade-pro-2017-gtx-1080

Looking at the Anandteck review, where the PBR16 is sitting right between the 1070 (in an ASUS) and the 1080 (in an CLEVO DTR), the reviewer concludes that:

"...there isn't really any GPU throttling occuring, and looking at the titles where the gap is largest makes it evident that we're seeing the impact of differing CPUs. The Blade Pro's 2.6GHz i7-6700HQ is no slouch, but it's not going to keep up with a 4GHz i7 sitting in a desktop replacement that's twice as thick." -> http://www.anandtech.com/show/10922/the-2016-razer-blade-pro-review/4

165W (GTX 1080 (Laptop) -> https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Laptop.171212.0.html
+45W (i7 7820HK @ Stock) -> https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-7820HK-Laptop-Processor.189821.0.html
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=210W(-> 40W headroom)

This should suffice for the OC on the CPU.

To round it up: I am very curious how the V2 of the Razer Blade Pro performs, and if the somewaht faster CPU can release the handbreak that one sees when looking at certain benchmarks. Of course the RBP can not compete up with the like the ASUS, ACER, AW, CLEVO DTRs in terms of cooling and OC. Still the form factor, the build quality, the other "gadgets" (excelent screen, keyboard, small power brick) make it very interesting for me.

This could be the fist all in one machine for me. I am curious what the first reviews will say. Still: If they are not too good. Then "Volta" will will do the trick and the RBP 2018/19 will be the thing I´ll have my eyes on.

Best regards

phila

 

Nah thats paper stats, if you look at a GT73VR with a 7820HK + 1080 both running benchmarks it was well over 300W. I know my 6820HK + 1070 starts to hit power limits when I try to OC some more. I can boot and bench at 4.2-4.3GHz+ but then you look at the actual frequencies and its fluctuating up and down and this is not caused by thermal limits. Do a benchmark and you'll score at or lower a certain point. Back the frequencies/voltages down to 4.0GHz and your frequencies start becoming normal without any ups and downs. Now the 1080 version of the same model has the 330W while the 1070 version has the 230W, but I think pushing them in OC will cause them to hit power limitations, just the 1080 itself is a hog.

So in this case you'll only hit the power limitations when you're overclocking.. but why put an HK processor if you're not going to be overclocking on all 4 cores?

Now in stock 7820HK I can see where it wont draw as much power because you're running at boost clocks which is the following:

4 - 3.5GHz
2 - 3.7GHz
1 - 3.9GHz

Crank all 4 cores to 4.0GHz or so and you're well over that wattage.

I think that they can OC that CPU but once that 1080 goes up, it'll eat up all the power and most likely hit a power limit.. thats just my guess xD

 

Of course it is paper stats - the model has not been released yet... We are all speculating... That`s the fun part. Still the given TDP is covered by the PSU.

As stated in the reviews the 1080 in the RBP is much closer to it`s original wattage than the more powerfull mor OCable DTRs.

Still I guess it will suffice for the announced upped CPU Boost of 4.3 Ghz (even though nor allcore for sure).

And I am very confidet that (though you are right stating, that benchmarks are very power intensive!) it will be enought for realword apps and gaming.

My Clevo wants 210 Watts benachmarking with GPU OCed but even in demanding games it wont top out at 170 watts.

Plus, you can save Watts by undervolting and overclocking your GPU at the same time via Afterburner. My GTX 1070 will mainttain 1709 mhz with only 800mv, which saves me up to 30 Watts!!!)

Best regards

phila

 

Around 69/70c

 

Supposedly, sales will start today at 6:00PM pacific time. Hopefully we will get benchmarks soon. Not that I want one, because I like smaller laptops since I don´t need a desktop in my laptop...a desktop is fine for me, but I am curious about it´s performance.

 

That was awesome log on at 6:12pm and shows the 512 ready to buy so I click on the 2tb to purchase says notify me? then click on the 1tb again notify me so, I said ok I will just buy the 512 and nope it was sold out! back to notify me.
This must be some BS marketing smokescreen?

 

Seems like it...after 20min....then all out of stock.

 

I guess they did not want to overbuild so they built one of each model.

Smart very smart!

 

IDK, their forum is full of hyped kids with granma's money, who have nothing to do but set a timer to buy it.

There were just a few units for sure, which is the way they might have wanted to go for to troubleshoot the notebook with the first batch, maybe.

Sounds like the crap people do in front of Apple stores for days while they release stuff.

 

I was intereste by this one but out of stock, anyway gonna wait a new review for this version.

 

They have all models back in stock, just got my order in.

 

Nice! Please report back! Here in Germany it will take unto middle of may until the RBP2017 is in stock.

Best regards

phila

 

I found the first video review:



Best regardes

phila

Edit: NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! V2 announced... but even though the review is as of today the notebook still has the 6700HQ inside.

 

Whoa. That is really nice. That's max settings? What about your CPU temps? Is that with cooler?

 

CPU/GPU are the same, running on a laptop stand with no fans and a -125mv offset of core/cache.

 

250w power supply, you have to be kidding me. I draw 221w from the kill-a-watt running 3.8ghz and a 1070 at full power draw and running only 1 samsumg 850 500gb SSD on a Eurocom Tornado F5 15 inch laptop.
This laptop will do a lot more than 250watts with a 1080 and 7820hk.

 

No it won`t. The downside is, that the GTX 1080 is supposed to be massively powerlimited BIOSside.

In this video OWNorDISOWN host talks to user Exklim who is said to be an expert in configuring BIOSes.



Have a look at 8:40 - He Says the GTX 1080 is limited to only 140 Watts, which explains why the 250w brick is sufficient and why the 1080 experiences no thermal GPU throtteling, but in turn only has GTX 1070 performance.

Of course anyone can claim that he has inside info on whatsoever - still this guy seems to know what he is talking about.

Unfortunately for me: If this proofes to be true, I am not going to buy a RBP 2017.

Best regards

phila

 

Ugh. And the RBP is the only gaming laptop that has a touchscreen. MSI (NOS tech), Alienware (180w, then sent out free ~230w replacement) and perhaps Asus have purposefully used underpowered AC adapters and hurt their customer base.

I am curious how far the 7820HK can overclock in this laptop - temperatures. Is it true, stock it's 3.5GHZ at 4 cores fully utilized as 'specialist7' post#19 said? If it'll be already getting to 90C or so, not so much. We'll see when people get their hands on them eh?
Otherwise i'll get a lighter laptop that has a decent 7700HQ.

 

First round of tests:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12440524
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12440617

Temps (110 mv undervolt): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4N68EAwm1cIbmhMLTRjY3lvazA/view?usp=sharing

 

A third test, changed the undervolt to 75mv (as I had a hang with 110mv), closed some background apps and here's the result:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12440704

Temps though:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4N68EAwm1cIM1NBYlRlLXpjRTg/view?usp=sharing

 

So it's for the 2017 version the same mess as for the old one. I wonder why they did not make it a little thicker and by doing so not castrating performamce compared to the AW 17R4. It is a shame, because build quality and looks are phenomenal.

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Surprised the CPU temps raised from mid 80s C to mid 90s with changing that undervolt. You're still undervolting by 75mv. Wow either you have a bad paste job from the factory or this laptop can't really handle a 7820HK with stock clocks and stock voltage. Am I right?
Wish it wasn't so. Thanks for the testing
Oh, and didn't know the 7820HK 1080 Razer was out.

 

Better than the 13075 firestrike of the v1 though.

Maybe 4ghz is a more realistic oc

 

Except that wasn't stock clocks xD

 

Bummer abouts those temperatures.

 

Can you do a stock run with/without undervolt? No point running this lappy at 4.29ghz if it is great at 3.9ghz imo

EDIT: Got mine to processing in UK store, 1-3 day shipping so it may even get here this week. We all know that it won't be the same as a thicker laptop in terms of performance but it is still up there. Been using my P870DM(G) for a little over a year now and I think the difference in portability while still having high-end performance will shock/spoil me.

 

Few details on each run:

4.3GHz, no undervolting, CPU throttling observed
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12440524

3.9GHz, 110mV undervolt
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12440617
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4N68EAwm1cIbmhMLTRjY3lvazA/view?usp=sharing

4.3 Ghz, 75mV undervolt
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12440704
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4N68EAwm1cIM1NBYlRlLXpjRTg/view?usp=sharing

That's my 4th RBP since December and I'm going to keep it despite the temps (which I was expecting to be high). The screen is just too beautiful to let it go.

 

the first thing anybody should do when they get one of these bga machines is to rip it up, clean off the old paste, apply liquid ultra, and watch what happens. It's worked miracles for Alienware, I don't see why it wouldn't work for the razer blade as well.

 

Are you using XTU to undervolt? Maybe 4.1 or 4.2 would be much more feasible?

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Oh right, you are overclocked. Looks like 4GHZ fully utilized all cores is possible with number crunching easily.
Nice that you can run overclocked and still be undervolted below stock voltage.
And how are the temps on the CPU when running Prime95 instead of 3DMark in the 4GHZ area, say 110mV undervolt? Thanks man.

 

Hi guys!

I just wanted to says bye, as I went with the Aours X7 DT V6.

Have a good time!

All the best to you!

phila

 

Pls share your impressions of the Aorus compared to the RBP, esprcially regarding termals, noise and throttling.

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O.k. I will:

I did not do any Benchmarking but from what I can tell after a days use:

The chasi is all metal except the bazel. Is seems pretty solid, even if not that solid as the RBP is expected to be.

The dispaly has this couriosity that it seems to show thin horizontal lines if the background is of light grey or blue (has been reported - but does not borther me).

The WQHD Display runs at 120 HZ with G-Sync - WOW!

First gaming impression: The Wither 3 WQHD all Ultra (WIth Hairworks Maxed) on Skellige (Intensive due to the trees and wind and stuff): 54 - 64 FPS / GPU 78°C / CPU 82°C

The CPU is overclocked to 4.0 Ghz (single) - 3.8 Ghz (all core).

The Fans can get pretty loud, but the sooling system seems to work well so far ;-)

Best regards

phila

Update: Firestrike Benchmark test with OC on CPU and GPU